A Fallout game that started development a year before the show was greenlit still wouldn't have been out yet so I don't get this hindsight is 2020 armchair dev thing.
Xbox wants the next Fallout game to come sooner, it's claimed
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Starfield started years before the TV show was even conceived let alone greenlit.
Todd said that if they hadn't have done Starfield when they did, they might never have done it, so I respect them wanting to take a big swing with something new. Creative people shouldn't be forced to make the same thing over and over.
Skyrim was one of if not the big breakthrough open world RPGs. Even aside from the quality of the game, it captured the zeitgeist and was a phenomenon, similar to GTAV.
Fallout 4 had far, far more competition than Skyrim.
Yeah I know. I still think they can't handle three big RPG series like this (before MS even came into the picture). Full disclosure; I'm biased on this topic and I do not like Starfield whatsoever.
You're free to not like Starfield all you want but that doesn't mean as creatives they shouldn't have been allowed to make something different.
My understanding is that BGS was until relatively recently pretty small by the standards of their peers. I think the core team working on Skyrim was about 100 people and that was a decent jump up from F3 and Oblivion. I think it's only really post-F4 that they really ramped up with the addition of those satellite studios.
Tim works at Obsidian, right? I'm assuming he's working on TOW2.
He's retired but he consults on TOW 2 and other projects (maybe Clockwork Revolution but he's never said, that's speculation on my part).
Leonard is still at Obsidian as far as we know.
Yeah Baldurs Gate level CRPG's would take just as long as a modern Fallout game. That said again BG3 had mass gaming appeal Fallout IP is now beyond that I don't see a CRPG doing well considering likely everyone has seen its a Third person game if you look it up anywhere.
I'm not coming at it from a creative angle though. As a business they do not have enough people to support that many tent poles.
Right but Phil (or Bethesda higher ups back then) is not going to force Todd and the team to do TES or Fallout if they passionately want to make Starfield. They're a creator led organisation as much as they are a business.
They don't have to force Todd and his team to do it. They need to establish new teams to support the tentpoles while Todd's team follows their passion.
Which is very expensive and very risky, especially in the currently landscape of layoffs and studio closures and cancelled projects. Just look at The Initiative or even Playground's second team. It's not as easy as just "make another team."
How is it risky to have an Elder Scrolls or Fallout team in place? Skyrim sold eighty billion copies.
You all have the wrong idea. They should focus on having an Elders Scrolls TV show. That way by the time that premieres, ES 6 is just around the corner.
It is just too late to have a new Fallout game within a year or two if Microsoft is now just thinking about it. The efforts with 4 and 76 will have to do.
It is just too late to have a new Fallout game within a year or two if Microsoft is now just thinking about it. The efforts with 4 and 76 will have to do.
Bingo. The Toddfather even said they keep releasing it because people keep buying it.
What if the team cohesion isn't there or the game flounders in dev hell and takes a decade to come out and then maybe isn't as good as fans expect because it's the first project from a new team? There are many risks no matter surefire the IP is.
Like I said in the other thread: They don't have to take anything away from Bethesda, though. Fallout 5 can still wait and come out next century becuase Fallout New Vegas has already proven a non numbered entry can still be really successful and memorable.
It doesn't have to be Fallout 5 but yeah, we're definitely going to need another Fallout before that. No question, I'm already starving.
It doesn't have to be Fallout 5 but yeah, we're definitely going to need another Fallout before that. No question, I'm already starving.
And that's a problem. They should have (regardless of acquisition) been working on expanding so they could parallel their work streams more.
What if it takes a decade to come out?! Is that a serious question?
What do you think Bethesda is doing? How do you think Starfield was received? In what world are those things not synonymous with BGS?
they should have had a team for TES and one for Fallout as soon as 4 released. I'm not a Skyrim fan but it's crazy that the next game in that series won't release until 15-17 years later, kids born in 2011 will be full adults by then! At this rate Fallout 6 won't be out till Todd Howard is in his 80s.
Y'all can't say this AND lament studios for not trying new IP and other things.
Exactly.
We can't get annoyed at Activision studios being forced to make CoD and also want Obsidian or whoever else to be forced to make Fallout at the expense of their own games. It's the exact same principle.
I don't think suggesting Microsoft-owned Bethesda having structures in place to support the tentpoles that got bought for four billion dollars is necessarily equivalent to the situation most other studios face.
It's insane to me that there has been seemingly no attempt to remake Fallout 1.
A game that is in desperate need of some QoL improvements and a fresh coat of paint. My favorite game in the series, but boy can playing it be a pain in the ass.
A game that is in desperate need of some QoL improvements and a fresh coat of paint. My favorite game in the series, but boy can playing it be a pain in the ass.
People ITT have lost their minds. Microsoft officially acquired Bethesda three years ago. You expected them to immediately take Obsidian or some other studio and have them start developing a new Fallout game that would 1) release in 2024 and 2) do so because they knew a TV should would be highly rated? Lunacy.
As long as they keep caveman Overseer man that kind of grunts at you as the opening dialogue in the game I'm on board.
I agree. The studio already had two sucessful IPs. That's more than most companies would ever achieve, never mind hope for. Considering how long their games take to make, creating another third IP was a silly idea.
All on Bethesda and ZeniMax. They know both the Elder Scrolls and Fallout ips sell tens of millions with every new main game.
They should have created a second team like a decade ago, so that both would be working on Elder Scrolls and Fallout simultaniously. Even if one would go do Starfiled inbetween, Fallout would have been worked on already. Todd as a producer could have overseen both if he wants to be heavily involved in everything.
They should have created a second team like a decade ago, so that both would be working on Elder Scrolls and Fallout simultaniously. Even if one would go do Starfiled inbetween, Fallout would have been worked on already. Todd as a producer could have overseen both if he wants to be heavily involved in everything.
Josh Sawyer, who was the director and lead designer for New Vegas, is still there.
Remasters sure but remaking games in that engine shouldn't be so easy. BGS and Obsidian were busy too so who would make it?
But he wants to work on Fallout? I really don't know
And if the TV show was dog shit? People are just saying stuff without actually thinking through all of the stuff that Microsoft would've had to know would happen years ago.
Jez later said Fallout 5 would still be by Bethesda and this would be a spin-off. But ultimately, he doesn't know of the details. I don't find it possible myself for BGS to not do Fallout 5.
I like Starfield more personally (especially since it got rid of the voiced protagonist), but I don't see a Starfield 2 and most other people I have talked to agree as well. The game isn't built with a sequel in mind (the Settled systems is equivalent to already having all of Nirn playable) and even the ways Todd talked about it leads me to believe that. This is just something they finally had the time to do and then they'll get back to TES, Fallout, TES, etc. I still can see spin-offs, I just don't see a 2.
Depends on what you mean by remake.
An RE style remake from scratch? Yeah that's taking 5-6 years. Just because you have a template you can follow doesn't suddenly shave off years of work.
Well the question was whether there's still talent from NV there.
I have absolutely NFC whether he wants to do Fallout lol
I still think we get Starfield 2, but obviously not until after Fallout 5.
Maybe, but that's also not capitalizing on the show.
They need a full on 3D Fallout game for that. And it ain't happening anytime soon because that takes 5-6 years.
If the rumors are true and a Fallout 3 remake is coming, that's the best bet.
Lol, it's not even worth the effort to reply in threads like these. Microsoft should have already hired the second Bethesda team before they even acquired them, and already planned a new fallout day and date release to coincide with the show.