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shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
15,156
If Spiderverse, Aquaman and Bumblebee can all have good legs despite being released around the same time, I think Pikachu and Endgame (and Aladdin to some extent) will be fine. Providing of course the films get positive reception.
Winter vs Summer are entirely different ball games. There were no other blockbusters to replace any of those films. Right after Aladdin comes Godzilla, then Xmen/SLOP2, then MIB:I, then Toy Story 4. I think Pikachu has plenty of breathing room, since its going to be the kiddie flick of May. But there is enough out there where if Aladdin doesn't look better and review well, I could see it being in trouble.
 

ContractHolder

Jack of All Streams
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,317
Winter vs Summer are entirely different ball games. There were no other blockbusters to replace any of those films. Right after Aladdin comes Godzilla, then Xmen/SLOP2, then MIB:I, then Toy Story 4. I think Pikachu has plenty of breathing room, since its going to be the kiddie flick of May. But there is enough out there where if Aladdin doesn't look better and review well, I could see it being in trouble.

Right, that's why I put providing the reception was good. If it sucks, then yeah, it's sinking.

Also uhhh, let's see how Dark Phoenix reviews before we add that to the list. I mean, Godzilla is a fair point, as are the rest. But that particular one (especially after Apcoloypse) might not be a problem.
 

Heroicpiglet

Avenger
Dec 22, 2017
2,067
First billion for Disney. Dumbo helped it over, but it's probably not going to contribute much in the long run. With a $170 Million budget, gotta put it down as disappointing.

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Your work is beautiful, I'm sure fate will spare you.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,450
Australia
Are you advocating for anti abortion messaging in film?


I want to see where this goes. ;)


I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.

because it looks like a propaganda driven film with bad acting? I find it to be funny, especially because it was not what I was expecting based on the name of the move.

Is there an issue with that?

My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.
 

hodayathink

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,055
I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.

On the one hand, there's what you just said.

On the other, there's the fact that the lead actress in the film just came out in support of Georgia's "Heartbeat Bill", which wants to ban abortions so early that a lot of women aren't even going to know they're pregnant in time to be able to get one.

I'm gonna lean towards propaganda piece here.
 

hodayathink

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,055
If they make the BW movie into a superhero female James Bond it'll do a Bill easy.

And Far From Home better come with some great reviews and spectacular legs to be the first SM to break a Bill.

People still sleeping on Far From Home, I see. With only one trailer out, it has more views that Godzilla: KOTM, and is only about 5M behind Shazam. If they only release one more trailer, and it matches the views that the first has right now, it'll end up above Captain Marvel in trailer views. There's a ton of interest in that movie.
 

Nacho

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,124
NYC
First billion for Disney. Dumbo helped it over, but it's probably not going to contribute much in the long run. With a $170 Million budget, gotta put it down as disappointing.

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wtf is with dineys release schedule lately? Captain marvel, followed by avengers a month alter.. dumbo followed by aladdin followed by the lion king every 2 months?

This is insanity and makes me realize only one star wars film a year is actually them being conservative.
 

DMVfan123

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,362
Virginia
Their parents let them gamble?
The funny thing is both of them bet me after the first week expecting the lowest drop of any Marvel movie ever in the US and a steep drop in China, even after quite a few analysts already came out and said a billi was virtually locked lol
Brie Larson must've rejected both of them in high school or something IDK, she's rented out a lot of their headspace
 

B.O.O.M.

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,765
I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.

I am genuinely not sure why my comment resulted in such a reaction.

First and foremost, my comment was based on the trailer. Yes, I do think it looks bad, propaganda driven with bad acting. It looks hilariously bad. Hence my response.

You are arguing that the actual movie is not well represented by the trailer. That's not my problem because again, I was reacting to the trailer.

Finally, I would be shocked if the movie is not propaganda driven because then the trailer must be extremely misleading. Being inspired by a true story doesn't really matter in that context either.

Anyways, at least you enjoyed it I guess.
 

Critch

Banned
Dec 10, 2017
1,360
I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.

Yeah no. The movie has been called out everywhere as having the production values of a Hallmark movie, it's produced by the Mypillow guy, it's being released by a company known for nothing BUT propaganda, and there's enough holes in the woman's story that it makes Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book look like documentaries.

It's fine that it exists. If the anti-choice crowd want to masturbate over a fictional account of taking away womens access to healthcare, go nuts. Calling this a 'solidly-made' film that 'mainstream hollywood wouldn't dare to touch' is one of the biggest piles of bullshit I think I've read on Era, and I've been in a lot of political threads. You know why mainstream hollywood wouldn't touch this? Because it's an R rated anti-abortion film that made all of 6 million dollars on the backs of churches. There's no crossover potential to this. At least "God's Not Dead" has some entertainment value as the good Mandrake has shared. This is a sick attack on women's rights at a time when they are in the most danger since 'Roe vs. Wade".

This movie deserves to be shut down and shut down hard. There's no difference between this sack of horseshit and Dinesh Di Souza's next conspiracy nutjob monstrosity.
 

LL_Decitrig

User-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
The funny thing is both of them bet me after the first week expecting the lowest drop of any Marvel movie ever in the US and a steep drop in China, even after quite a few analysts already came out and said a billi was virtually locked lol
Brie Larson must've rejected both of them in high school or something IDK, she's rented out a lot of their headspace

I'll bet dozens of items in their YouTube recommendations told them Disney was desperately buying tickets to conceal a massive flop.
 

Kilbane65

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,460
We went to see Dumbo yesterday, I think the biggest problem is that the movie is too damn long, almost 2 hours for what is mostly a kid's movie. After a while a bunch of them are asleep or started talking and running around. I honestly can't remember much of it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
13,144
I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.
You gave money to this propaganda drivel? yikes. do better.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
Films like Unplanned have a generally admirable message, but the execution is unbearably mawkish partially because they tend to be overbearingly America focused despite the universal nature of the subject matter. A hypothetical parallel would be a free speech film that obsesses over the First Amendment, or a film about guns that obsesses over the Second Amendment. These things boil complex issues into American cliches of no broader relevance. "Think globally, act locally," sure, but the impression you get from these films is that the world outside America doesn't really exist.
 

El Bombastico

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
36,067
"Think globally, act locally," sure, but the impression you get from these films is that the world outside America doesn't really exist.

That's because for American conservatives, that is more or less what they actually believe. America is perfect and all nations outside of it are filled with either evil non-white foreigners who want to blow us up and/or take our jobs, or stupid, filthy Europeans that live in third-world countries and envy us for all of our freedoms.
 

Manmademan

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Member
Aug 6, 2018
16,048
Yeah no. The movie has been called out everywhere as having the production values of a Hallmark movie, it's produced by the Mypillow guy, it's being released by a company known for nothing BUT propaganda, and there's enough holes in the woman's story that it makes Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book look like documentaries.

It's fine that it exists. If the anti-choice crowd want to masturbate over a fictional account of taking away womens access to healthcare, go nuts. Calling this a 'solidly-made' film that 'mainstream hollywood wouldn't dare to touch' is one of the biggest piles of bullshit I think I've read on Era, and I've been in a lot of political threads. You know why mainstream hollywood wouldn't touch this? Because it's an R rated anti-abortion film that made all of 6 million dollars on the backs of churches. There's no crossover potential to this. At least "God's Not Dead" has some entertainment value as the good Mandrake has shared. This is a sick attack on women's rights at a time when they are in the most danger since 'Roe vs. Wade".

This movie deserves to be shut down and shut down hard. There's no difference between this sack of horseshit and Dinesh Di Souza's next conspiracy nutjob monstrosity.

I was going to chime in but this is all that needs to be said.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
User Banned (2 months): Misogynist rhetoric, Inflammatory false equivalencies to bigotry
No, there is nothing admirable about the message.
Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society. Having an anti-abortion message is a good thing, just as having an anti-racism message is a good thing. The more films that perpetuate these messages, the better. That doesn't make Unplanned a good film, however. It doesn't absolve it of criticism for being manipulative or the veracity of its subject matter being dubious. At best, one hopes it inspires actually good films about abortion and the people who dedicate themselves to the fight against it.
 

TheHunter

Bold Bur3n Wrangler
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
25,774
Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society. Having an anti-abortion message is a good thing, just as having an anti-racism message is a good thing. The more films that perpetuate these messages, the better. That doesn't make Unplanned a good film, however. It doesn't absolve it of criticism for being manipulative or the veracity of its subject matter being dubious. At best, one hopes it inspires actually good films about abortion and the people who dedicate themselves to the fight against it.
Except the people making these types of arguments/films typically A) Don't care about other, more important moral issues B) Don't care what happens to that child after it's born (kinda hypocritical to say sanctity of life IMO) and C) Are quite loony.

I've met very few like yourself who make a point about abortion being bad and you know, actually value human life outside of that very narrow point.

That and the film itself is about as in your face and beats you over the head with the main argument like you're two.
 

Sweeney Swift

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Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,743
#IStandWithTaylor
Yeah no. The movie has been called out everywhere as having the production values of a Hallmark movie, it's produced by the Mypillow guy, it's being released by a company known for nothing BUT propaganda, and there's enough holes in the woman's story that it makes Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book look like documentaries.

It's fine that it exists. If the anti-choice crowd want to masturbate over a fictional account of taking away womens access to healthcare, go nuts. Calling this a 'solidly-made' film that 'mainstream hollywood wouldn't dare to touch' is one of the biggest piles of bullshit I think I've read on Era, and I've been in a lot of political threads. You know why mainstream hollywood wouldn't touch this? Because it's an R rated anti-abortion film that made all of 6 million dollars on the backs of churches. There's no crossover potential to this. At least "God's Not Dead" has some entertainment value as the good Mandrake has shared. This is a sick attack on women's rights at a time when they are in the most danger since 'Roe vs. Wade".

This movie deserves to be shut down and shut down hard. There's no difference between this sack of horseshit and Dinesh Di Souza's next conspiracy nutjob monstrosity.
Thank you very much for this. I don't know why the box office thread of all places has brought out some loons defending that type of propaganda but I'm glad it's been called out for the most part
 

Grath

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
463
Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society. Having an anti-abortion message is a good thing, just as having an anti-racism message is a good thing. The more films that perpetuate these messages, the better. That doesn't make Unplanned a good film, however. It doesn't absolve it of criticism for being manipulative or the veracity of its subject matter being dubious. At best, one hopes it inspires actually good films about abortion and the people who dedicate themselves to the fight against it.

It's absolute fucking bullshit that you're equating abortion with racism.

And everything else you said is evil.
 

TheHunter

Bold Bur3n Wrangler
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
25,774
It's absolute fucking bullshit that you're equating abortion with racism.

And everything else you said is evil.
I mean, to play devils advocate here; you can have a strong personal moral objection to abortion. This would be the problem with movie's and attitudes like this movie though; trying to force personal morals unto society with terrible messaging.
 

Grath

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
463
I mean, to play devils advocate here; you can have a strong personal moral objection to abortion. This would be the problem with movie's and attitudes like this movie though; trying to force personal morals unto society with terrible messaging.

A strong personal moral objection still could be evil.
 

LL_Decitrig

User-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society.

Funny how some people can be so concerned about human life in its earliest, non-sentient levels of development, and yet heedless of the health and safety concerns of the fully developed person who they believe should be compelled against their will to host that life.
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,666
I don't think I understand the box office anymore. I blinked and Captain Mahvel is at 350M domestic already.
 

Sibersk Esto

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Abortion is the great evils of the great evils of modern civilization and as bad as racism" is not something I expected to read in a Resetera box office forum
 

berzeli

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,384
I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.
Don't you live in Australia. aka a country in which the film hasn't been released? 🤔

I mean you're a shitty troll account anyhow but you know. Put some effort in keeping your character consistent.
 

Miles X

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
710
First billion for Disney. Dumbo helped it over, but it's probably not going to contribute much in the long run. With a $170 Million budget, gotta put it down as disappointing.

pTPaagj.jpg


Chart updated with individual breakdown for all the films now, along with their release dates.

(Someone avenge me in updating this chart should I chosen with the Snap)

Endgame, Lion King and Star Wars will make up a $2.3b surplus. Dumbo, Aladdin and Artemis Fowl will eat nearly all of that up, it's down to Frozen 2, Toy Story 4 and Maleficent 2 averaging $1b.
 

ReiGun

Member
Nov 15, 2017
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Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society. Having an anti-abortion message is a good thing, just as having an anti-racism message is a good thing. The more films that perpetuate these messages, the better. That doesn't make Unplanned a good film, however. It doesn't absolve it of criticism for being manipulative or the veracity of its subject matter being dubious. At best, one hopes it inspires actually good films about abortion and the people who dedicate themselves to the fight against it.
It's a yikes from me.