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Oct 29, 2017
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Don't you live in Australia. aka a country in which the film hasn't been released? 🤔

I mean you're a shitty troll account anyhow but you know. Put some effort in keeping your character consistent.

Talk about uncalled for. Resorting to calling me a shitty troll because you don't agree with me? Really?

I'm done with this conversation. This thread isn't the place for it and it's not worth my time.
 

berzeli

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Oct 25, 2017
3,384
Talk about uncalled for. Resorting to calling me a shitty troll because you don't agree with me? Really?

I'm done with this conversation. This thread isn't the place for it and it's not worth my time.
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so you're not going to explain how you definitely watched a film that isn't released in your country and liked it enough so you posted about it providing as much detail on it that you can glance from the trailer and wiki article? 🤔
 

hodayathink

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Oct 25, 2017
3,055
Talk about uncalled for. Resorting to calling me a shitty troll because you don't agree with me? Really?

I'm done with this conversation. This thread isn't the place for it and it's not worth my time.

You still haven't explained how the movie isn't propaganda even though the actress is out there using the release of the movie to signal boost her pro-life platform. I'm waiting.
 
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OrangeAtlas

OrangeAtlas

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oct 27, 2017
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I mean, I won't go out of my way to demand it, but when one comes along I'm not exactly going to reject it.



My issue was that it came across as if you were looking down on the movie and instantly dismissing it.

I get it, most of these types of movies are straight up bad or average at best, but I saw a screening of this yesterday and was surprised at how solid it was.

The acting was actually good, especially from the lead actress Ashley Bratcher - you never would have guessed that from the corny trailer.

It's about Abby Johnson who worked at Planned Parenthood for 8 years, rising through the ranks from volunteer escort, to clinic counselor to clinic director who eventually changed her views on abortion.

Calling the movie propaganda is a bit of a stretch. I mean it's a true story and it didn't come across as biased. It simply came across as harsh reality.

Both pro-choice and pro-life people should give the movie a go. It's a solidly made, important movie/issue that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't dare to touch, and I think that alone makes the movie worth your time. Movies like this don't deserve to be instantly shut down.

You are of course free to like whatever you want, but I am totally going to dismiss the fuck out of any film made to push agendas by a shitty Christian film company known for classics as God's Not Dead, where the mean lecturer who doesn't believe in god is killed in a car accident at the end.
 

Icemonk191

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Oct 25, 2017
3,814
Of all the places I would expect pro-life assholes to show up the Box Office thread was not one of them.
 

Seeya

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Oct 27, 2017
7,984
Abortion is one of the great evils of modern civilization. A fundamental devaluing of human life as having value or merit outside of what it contributes to society. Having an anti-abortion message is a good thing, just as having an anti-racism message is a good thing. The more films that perpetuate these messages, the better. That doesn't make Unplanned a good film, however. It doesn't absolve it of criticism for being manipulative or the veracity of its subject matter being dubious. At best, one hopes it inspires actually good films about abortion and the people who dedicate themselves to the fight against it.

To be clear I am pro abortion, and it's posdible that you overstated your position in the moment?

Ok, so, um, you have a right to this opinion but, uh, equivocation to racism is NOT a track you want to go down my friend. Let's try to steer clear of... that... and focus on the principle

'Abortion is one of the great evils of our time and contributes to the devaluation of human life outside of the context by which is contributes to society'.

The racism comparison along with no qualifiers on abortion is a yikes yikes for me, but...

As it pertains to your position and only within the context of being relevant to the subject at hand:

1) What do you mean by 'society' within the context of your statement.

2) What is your stance on the value of human life and in what way, if any, is it altered with and without the context of any types of social interactions (assuming that in your view society, as you've described it and disagree with, treads these acts are the prerequisite to attaining value).

3) In contrast to your view of a societal shift that does not promote inherent baseline value to a persons, can you describe a practical threshold (under your system of belief) by which a person will meet or fail to meet the criteria of having contributed to society. What is a 'contributive act' and in what way, in your mind, would a person or persons have to practice or pattern these types of acts, if at all, to 'have value'

4) Let's assume that you view all human life as inherently possessing value. If not, feel free to correct me.

In your view is there any group or type of persons that hold differing levels of value and if so, why (race, gender, age, situate etc) [speaking only as relevant to the issue of abortion]?

5) Under what conditions if any is abortion 'reasonable' or 'permissible', and is it ever 'an ethically neutral' act.

6) Assuming that the fetus or unborn child is granted the same rights and considerations that we would give a normative person; why does said fetus have the intrinsic right to use the mother's body without consent?

7) What is your stance on consent?

8) What is your stance on bodily autonomy?

9) Why ought society at large view abortion as a Bad.
 
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El Bombastico

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
36,067
Damn, of all the things to make the closet pro-lifers crawl out from their rocks, a shitty-ass film does the trick???
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be clear I am pro abortion, and it's posdible that you overstated your position in the moment?

Ok, so, um, you have a right to this opinion but, uh, equivocation to racism is NOT a track you want to go down my friend. Let's try to steer clear of... that... and focus on the principle As it pertains to your position:

'Abortion is one of the great evils of our time and contributes to the devaluation of human life outside of the context by which is contributes to society'.

The racism comparison along with no qualifiers on abortion is a yikes yikes for me, but...

Some probing questions to clarify your position and so that we agree on the meaning of the words you are using:

1) What do you mean by 'society' within the context of your statement.

2) In what way is a person viewed as contributing to society.

3) What is your stance on the value of human life and in what way, if any, is it altered with and without the context of any types of social interactions (assuming that these are a prerequisite to attaining value).

4) Can you describe a practical threshold by which a person will meet or fail to meet the criteria of having contributed to society. What is a 'contributive act' and in what way, in your mind, would a person or persons have to practice or pattern these types of acts, if at all, to 'have value'

5) Let's assume that you view all human life as inherently of value. Do you value any groups of orientation of humans over any other and if so, why (race, gender, age, situate etc)

6) Under what conditions if any is abortion 'reasonable' or 'permissible', and is it ever 'an ethically neutral' act.

7) hypothetical: Assuming that the fetus or unborn child is granted the same rights and considerations that we would give a normative person; why does said fetus have the intrinsic right to use the mother's body without consent?

8) What is your stance on consent?

9) What is your stance on bodily autonomy?

10) Why ought society at large view abortion as a Bad.
I'm not sure that they are going to be in a position to answer your questions seeing as how they have a pending ban.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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PhoncipleBone

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh you know if EpIX doesn't shatter all records it's gonna be shitposts about how TLJ ruined SW forever. Or about how JJ fixed the mess Rian created if it does do better numbers.

We are fucked either way.
 

dennett316

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Nov 2, 2017
2,982
Blackpool, UK
These shitty Christian movies aren't worth the time, energy or bans. The church has to pay to fill out the seats to earn a few bucks, it just ain't worth it.

Fucking anti-abortion movie, great. I look forward to the Condoms Kill movie in 2020. From the geniuses behind God's Not Dead...shit belongs on some crappy religious network tucked away in the cable channel depths.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
13,734
These shitty Christian movies aren't worth the time, energy or bans. The church has to pay to fill out the seats to earn a few bucks, it just ain't worth it.

Fucking anti-abortion movie, great. I look forward to the Condoms Kill movie in 2020. From the geniuses behind God's Not Dead...shit belongs on some crappy religious network tucked away in the cable channel depths.
I swear that one of these Christian production companies has a network. It probably just airs theses movies, the 10 Commandments, and Veggie Tales.
 

Adventureracing

The Fallen
Nov 7, 2017
8,042
Man dumbo had an awful opening in Australia this week. The only thing that could save it is if it plays more like a kids movie with the upcoming school holidays but with the competition I doubt it. US had a pretty strong opening despite having nearly half of the screens dumbo had.
 

Aexact

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Oct 30, 2017
3,275
Veggie Tales was great when I was a kid but I kept getting those videos as gifts until like my freshmen year of HS. God bless my religious aunts.
Damn I remember getting that too. Unsolicitated Christian themed books and videos from my aunt in Ohio.

I mean, as a kid, I'd watch anything. I remember the books were pretty dry and about young teens so my grade school self couldn't relate. Or that videos are just as dry but easier to watch.

What an odd memory to recollect.
 

Seeya

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,984
I'm not sure that they are going to be in a position to answer your questions seeing as how they have a pending ban.

Funnily enough I never saw that because I had this window (and message ready to send) sitting open on my home PC while I was at a gig.

Can't said that the action taken is uncalled for. Good god (pun... intended?), if you're going to step in it like that at least put (a shit load of, let's be real) qualifiers in there. That's a take so white hot that I couldn't believe it was coming from Dr Carrol.
 
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OrangeAtlas

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Oct 25, 2017
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