Daily deaths down to 98 with the seven-day average. First time we've been below three figures for the average since October.
Maybe way too optimistic at the moment to assume we'll never hit three figures again.
Edit: Patients in hospital in England dropped to 5,083 as of yesterday. Lowest since mid-October.
Maybe way too optimistic at the moment to assume we'll never hit three figures again.
Edit: Patients in hospital in England dropped to 5,083 as of yesterday. Lowest since mid-October.
Wales is considerably ahead overall per capita, they've definitely been doing well.
Sadly the hospital admissions had a bit of an increase this week, but hopefully just a blip.
Sadly the hospital admissions had a bit of an increase this week, but hopefully just a blip.
That's still pretty good honestly.One of the more accurate vaccine trackers out there, predicting August 7th as the day when all adults will be first dose vaccinated.
UK COVID Vaccine Tracker
This website provides updates and visualisations to better understand the COVID vaccine rollout across the UK.www.vaccine-tracker.uk
Seems to have updated to the 22nd of July now, which is even better.
They could have investigated the issue without pausing all vaccinations.
The fact that cases are still dropping despite schools having been open for 2 weeks is really good news.
Obviously not out of the woods yet and cases might start to climb again soon but this might be indicative that schools aren't as significant an issue as we previously thought.
Maybe they could organise it so as those with vaccine passports are automatically allowed entry whereas younger folk have to take a test beforehand? A ton of people in the country will be vaccinated by June so it wouldn't be as much of a logistical nightmare to test those who aren't.
Just note that this is based on the last 7 day average... which obviously may not be sustainable with the news that we're going to be getting fewer vaccines than expected.
Acknowledging that there might be a risk of death from the vaccine while asking people to take it isn't smart.
It varies incredibly from person to person. Mother had a sore arm for a day and my step dad had no reaction at all.
I'm brewing gluten free pale ale, because my mate in walking distance is fucking awkward. So this may actually happen.How I envisage you in two weeks.
When everyone's like "I can't wait to get drunk for the first time in 12 months!" And I'm likeHow I envisage you in two weeks.
... Yeaaaaaaah
I will literally sit in torrential downpour with a friend I do not give one fuck
Yeah, I'm hoping this is how they handle it instead of completely dismissing anyone who hasn't been vaccinated/received their 2nd dose yet.
It would be insanely unfair otherwise, and I'd be absolutely devastated if I can't see the below in real life:
I keep forgetting about this.
I may try and organise a little get together with mates in a park sometime soon, assuming the weather is decent of course.
I want to say I'm shocked, but I'm the exact opposite. Still utterly trashy and spineless of Google, though.
Haven't we already had that wave? This current one is down to the U.K. variant hitting Europe right and we had that impact in Jan?
Yes. Third wave was:
January: UK
February: Spain / Portugal /some Central Europe countries
March: Most of Europe
Spain is sitting close to the edge of a fourth wave though.
This is why I object to EU nations framing their third wave as "we don't have the vaccines to avoid a lockdown". Neither did the UK at the time our third wave kicked off. That's why we've been in a fairly severe lockdown for nearly three months.
UUUh, UK got a third wave because it fucked things up and opened way before Christmas and stayed opened during a good chunk of Christmas (turbo charged by the british strain). Most of the continent didn't act in such a stupid way.
Most of Europe (outside of Portugal and Spain that decided to slightly open for Christmas and that had consequences) still had pretty decent lockdowns until mid-late january completely avoiding all that "wave" and the infection remained stable until the british strain came and basically made it hard for numbers to come down and go back up again.
The idea was to be able to slowly open through Q1 as most of the more in danger population was vaccinated (the idea was all 80+ vaccinated by end of Q1) but lack of vaccines and the new british variant (that basically makes it very hard to control using normal previous methods), throw everything out of the loop.
For instance, in Spain numbers are still very much stable in most regions, but it is clearly in the edge with a controlled british strain that could go wild at any moment:
Edit: I guess if we consider "third wave" as Chrismtas, most of Europe completely avoided that one. If we consider "third wave" as british variant, that was not expected to happen and put everything in a weird way.
Do you guys think we'll have further waves and lockdowns here?
I'd love to think that come June 21st we're finally out of this.
But given the past 12 months, I can't help but feel pessimistic.
I'd love to think that come June 21st we're finally out of this.
But given the past 12 months, I can't help but feel pessimistic.
I think you might have misinterpreted what I was saying - or I didn't phrase it very well. My issue is with countries saying "we wouldn't be having this third wave if we had more vaccines!" when other places - notably the UK - have already dealt with third waves and are responding accordingly. Those places are not escaping third waves - they're reacting to them.UUUh, UK got a third wave because it fucked things up and opened way before Christmas and stayed opened during a good chunk of Christmas (turbo charged by the british strain)
Most of Europe (outside of Portugal and Spain that decided to slightly open for Christmas and that had consequences) still had pretty decent lockdowns until mid-late january completely avoiding all that "wave" and the infection remained stable until the british strain came and basically made it hard for numbers to come down and go back up again.
The idea was to be able to slowly open through Q1 but lack of vaccines and the new british variant (that basically makes it very hard to control using normal previous methods), throw everything out of the loop.
For instance, in Spain numbers are still very much stable in most regions, but it is clearly in the edge with a controlled british strain that could go wild at any moment:
Not to mention the fact that no country has provable vaccinated enough to avoid another wave yet, so it's not as simple as, say, shipping all the available vaccines to France.
I'm totally aware that the UK's third wave was very much of its own making.
If a new variant that ignores the vaccines comes, then yes.
I think we'll have waves for years, but they won't be severe enough to lockdown unless it mutates something fierce.
But most places are already are taking measurements and responding accordingly? The main complain regarding vaccination is not about completely evading it but beign in a far better situation than we currently are (as more 70+ should have been vaccinated by now but you know, AZ gotta AZ and deliver peanuts). Most of it comes from promises from before Christmas that it was gonna be the last major lockdown but then the british strain had to fuck thigns up and make most of it much harder to control.
Also Israel has shown to be good enough vaccine to not really have another wave btw.
Edit:
Yeah. The vaccine part is more about people being annoyed by slow vaccine roll out and the "broken promise" of Christmas being the last lockdown and the end of the slow opening up post chrismtas (mainly fueled by the british strain).
Depends on strains. I would say this should be the last wave, unless something very unlucky happens.
Damn. Even though its great numbers, it just makes me upset realizing that if we didnt have these supply delays, these are the numbers we could have been hitting for the next few months. Like 4 Mil a week with half and half first and second doses we could have smashed this entire vaccine schedule. Hopefully towards the end of April we can build straight back up to these results and go even faster knowing a good portion of people will be second dosed in April.
I dont see another lockdown happening. Even if a new variant arises, the vaccines will still offer some protection and will be able to hopefully quickly get booster shots out there if need be.
I also dont think the public would accept another lockdown haha.
The number of the wave is irrelevant to the point I was making. If the numbers go up as they are in Europe, it will be interesting to see how hospitalisations and deaths vary here in comparison to Europe. It is an early test of how competent the vaccine really is at preventing serious illness. Infection rate is already levelling off here from its recent drop, it would seem inevitable that it will creep up as more of the economy is opened and social contact increased.
It seems Latitude is taking the approach I suggested earlier
Vaccinated people straight in and then tests on the door for everyone else.
Latitude Festival in Suffolk will run at 'full capacity'
People who have not been vaccinated for Covid will have to take a test before they enter.
www.bbc.co.uk
Vaccinated people straight in and then tests on the door for everyone else.
I have this awful feeling the reopening will be pushed back. I don't want to doom Post cos I'm feeling very down and eager to reopen myself but I can't help it.
They will definitely open up on April12 but expect cases to rise quickly - the vaccines are not great at preventing transmission, only good at preventing severe disease
In my opinion I think they should. People are way too relaxed about having people round their houses now, and someone needs to drop a dose of reality on them.
They have made 13 arrests and are telling people to disperse. Beyond arresting every single person there I don't know what else they can do?
This is fine, but they need to offer refunds or deferred tickets to anyone who can't attend because of a positive test.It seems Latitude is taking the approach I suggested earlier
Latitude Festival in Suffolk will run at 'full capacity'
People who have not been vaccinated for Covid will have to take a test before they enter.www.bbc.co.uk
Vaccinated people straight in and then tests on the door for everyone else.
Er yes they have though ... multiple reports for both vaccines throughout Feb showed the two main vaccines being used here substantially reduced transmission.