-
For our US members, be sure to check on your voter registration status and if you are not registered it will only take a second to do so!
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 19 | The Unknown DLC will Continue
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
- Start date
- Status
IRC Sakurai said he picked Greninja before X&Y were released, and the fact it ended up being the star of gen 6 was a coincidence. Incineroar was picked because Sakurai wanted to do a wrestling character (I'm sure Mimikyu or Lycanroc would've been the gen 7 choice if it were entirely up to the TPC).
I'm sure TPC has influence, but from previous examples the Pokémon pick largely appears to be Sakurai's decision.
That still allows a scenario where Sakurai picks Cinderace at some point in the past and TPC starts pushing it.
Sakurai doesn't really have much influence on DLC picks as he'd made clear in the past. So if anything TPC would likely have more influence then ever mainly because it's Nintendo handling the picks. So they're the ones choosing which characters to put in the Pass and I'd imagine if they'd ask TPC if they wanted a new Pokemon in Smash then TPC would likely answer Cinderace considering how much they plan to push the character.
Sakurai did get to pick the ARMS character though. He considered Ninjara but went with Min Min because that's what Yabuki wanted. Seems plausible to me that Sakurai would get to pick the Pokemon if Nintendo wanted him to add one.
Even in this scenario he was still recommended to use Min Min so even if he ultimately settled on it he accepted input from the director of the game to include her so it's likely TPC would have similar recommendations or at least give Sakurai a limited selection and it's likely this selection would just be the fully evolved starters where it's likely he'd choose Cinderace anyway.
Define disappointment. Like, I wasn't "happy" with Byleth, but I laughed and moved on. I'd probably feel like that with a Pokemon.
unless it's gengar, that would be a clear disappointment
we all said the same thing when it came to Fire Emblem lol
the backlash would be almost as big as byleth, and if it a gen 8 one thank to the dexxers even worse
I don't think the backlash would be that big. Byleth had a lot of things going against them when they were revealed – the last DLC character in pack one, "another anime swordsman", "another blue haired Fire Emblem character," comments, generally considered an underwhelming pick even among Three Houses fans, and so on.
So unless it's a controversial gen 8 pick like Cinderace, I don't see a Pokemon pick causing bashlash as much as indifference. Pokemon is hugely popular, and the possibility of a Pokemon character being a DLC pick was always there. So i think the general response might be "underwhelmed or disappointed, but understandable."
I feel Rex and Pyra would be the Byleth level backlash choice over, say, Toxicitricty.
Honestly I also did unironically want Byleth but part of the reason I was happy to see them was because I knew they make people mad. I wasn't that attached to the character either so it just made it extra funny to see people cursing them out just for showing up in Smash
Nah I was happy too. Also I guess I took an extended exodus from the thread I hope everyone's doing well
Maybe? But considering that Nintendo doesn't believe in saving the best for last, I think it's good to not throw out the idea.
No, because we still have two more characters at the very least.
why they are from a series that has one rep in smash and have been one of the most requested dlc characters since the dlc announcement. to the point they are still in the top 5-10 most wanted characters last i checked, not like pokemon with 10 reps coming from a gen that saying it's divisive is the most you can say about it's reception, they would not nearly be received as half as bad as pokemon
Byleth was one of my most wanted characters after Three Houses and is still the DLC pick I'm most happy with.
If it's a Nintendo character like Rex then we'd have the debate if they really filled half of the Pass with Nintendo characters
That's what I'm thinking but it'd be interesting big they let Sakurai play around with it and the forms could be switched between as a kind of stance change.
Watch them announce Ayumi Tachibana and a Western Release of the Detective Club remake.
OP
OP
just made a new poll for yall to vote.
And it would be nice if you share the details if you think it's Nintendo and which franchise would it be? Or third party, which characters?!
And it would be nice if you share the details if you think it's Nintendo and which franchise would it be? Or third party, which characters?!
Alt costumes, probably?
There's little mechanical difference between them in-game. IIRC the only change is the last move they learn, and one ability out of three, so I wouldn't see the need to differentiate them in Smash.
Lol, you know what would help with this? Putting Toxtricity in Smash!
Telling ya, it's gonna happen lol
I feel like regardless of the high amount of FE characters in Smash versus Pokemon, it's less whether or not those series are good/popular and more whether or not they are within the Smash playerbase.
Fire Emblem has been a consistent success since Awakening and Pokemon is the biggest multimedia franchise on the planet, but this is a fandom where the "stars" (and please note the quote marks) for the diehard fandom are like, Waluigi, Geno and Isaac.
It's kinda like Marvel vs. Capcom and how the last game had no X-Men. Captain Marvel and Black Panther were just in billion dollar films, but the diehards for Marvel vs. Capcom, not Marvel or Capcom individually but the MvC series itself, are enamored with Cable, Sentinel, and a hyperspecific version of Magneto who can shoot lasers as long as he says "magnetic" before doing so. That's just what they want.
Now obviously it's stupid to make major decisions based on diehards, which is why you got Banjo-Kazooie along the way to Steve and everyone else was a character that someone wouldn't really know they wanted until they heard them coming or saw them in action, and I think from there the best case scenario is for a non-believer to be wowed, like how Terry went from a Literal Who overshadowed by a meme skeleton costume to one of Ultimate's most beloved new additions.
Which brings me back to FE and Pokemon, and with them I think everyone already knows how they feel about them. There are a huge amount of them already in Smash so even if the characters play differently like the Pokemon do, there's this sense of getting something you already have.
Fire Emblem only really rising to major tentpole stardom the last few years probably contributes to the continued disinterest (and "blue haired anime swordsman" has already become entrenched in Smash discourse), but I think with FE and Pokemon in particular Nintendo sees much more value in selling the characters to the Smash audience confident that for whatever the diehards will say there will be hundreds of thousands more potential buyers who want a new Pokemon.
Fire Emblem has been a consistent success since Awakening and Pokemon is the biggest multimedia franchise on the planet, but this is a fandom where the "stars" (and please note the quote marks) for the diehard fandom are like, Waluigi, Geno and Isaac.
It's kinda like Marvel vs. Capcom and how the last game had no X-Men. Captain Marvel and Black Panther were just in billion dollar films, but the diehards for Marvel vs. Capcom, not Marvel or Capcom individually but the MvC series itself, are enamored with Cable, Sentinel, and a hyperspecific version of Magneto who can shoot lasers as long as he says "magnetic" before doing so. That's just what they want.
Now obviously it's stupid to make major decisions based on diehards, which is why you got Banjo-Kazooie along the way to Steve and everyone else was a character that someone wouldn't really know they wanted until they heard them coming or saw them in action, and I think from there the best case scenario is for a non-believer to be wowed, like how Terry went from a Literal Who overshadowed by a meme skeleton costume to one of Ultimate's most beloved new additions.
Which brings me back to FE and Pokemon, and with them I think everyone already knows how they feel about them. There are a huge amount of them already in Smash so even if the characters play differently like the Pokemon do, there's this sense of getting something you already have.
Fire Emblem only really rising to major tentpole stardom the last few years probably contributes to the continued disinterest (and "blue haired anime swordsman" has already become entrenched in Smash discourse), but I think with FE and Pokemon in particular Nintendo sees much more value in selling the characters to the Smash audience confident that for whatever the diehards will say there will be hundreds of thousands more potential buyers who want a new Pokemon.
Even if the Smash Reveal is meh, we still have a whole Direct to look foward to with tons of news
I feel like zacian would make a cool fighter. If i cant have sif, ill take the pokemon knockoff
IIRC it's the longest "normal" General Direct, but is on par with some of the longer E3 Directs
Hopefully that's indicative of it's content...
- Status