Maybe they're talking about EV/IV and other advanced stuff that you can completely ignore.
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Pokemon Co. says "There is no way we will stray from basic elements" with Pokemon Let's Go
- Thread starter Mcjmetroid
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They aren't deflecting anything. The people defending this game are. If they're going out of their way to make core fans that think this looks shitty want to buy the game, defenders saying that the game "isn't for you" or is just "going for a new demo" is complete trash and utterly invalid.
If you truly know a lot about Gen 1 balancing you would also know that Special Attack and Special Defense use to be all in one stat which in itself makes a difference.
Not only that but I'm kind of confused on how this matters? Are you expecting this to be a competitive release? I certainly hope not as that would be setting yourself up for disappointment. This is meant to be a casual game with Pokemon elements with everything toned down to meet that criteria.
Can we please drop the "this game isn't for you" argument? It literally is a nonsensical statement, since Game Freak keeps trying to convince us we should buy this game anyway.
I never stated that at all, that's your assumption. Try rereading what I said properly this time instead of using your emotions to dictate what others state.
My issue is I haven't seen a good argument for removing wild Pokemon battles and a whole bunch of online features.
It's paired down, but is still full price.
Also, it seems the co-op just makes the game even easier. So that's even more disappointing
It's paired down, but is still full price.
Also, it seems the co-op just makes the game even easier. So that's even more disappointing
The world doesn't revolve around you, hence why I didn't quote you. I was talking to the dozens of people parroting that on the previous page.
Games are always "for everyone" because companies like money. We have the power of deduction to come to our own conclusion with what we're actually shown of the game and not phrasing that sounds like Reggie Fils-Aimé PR speak.
im not sure, did people really expect them to say "these aren't for experience players" or anything that directly states that its not for them?
It's a very divisive game.
If we didn't know Gen 8 was coming next year, it'd be a lot worse
I honestly think that removing wild battles might be the best idea they've had in years.
Traveling was always a chore thanks to fighting nonsense battles with no real tension or challenge. It just amplified the level of attrition you have to deal with over the whole game. Constant 6v1 battles never served to make it more challenging in an interesting way. It just made it more of a grind with more item usage or center trips. Especially if you were just hunting a specific mon to catch.
If they actually adjust the game to have tougher trainer battles in order to balance the change, I think it would be a great direction.
I don't really have confidence they have thought it out that far, but I can hope...
Traveling was always a chore thanks to fighting nonsense battles with no real tension or challenge. It just amplified the level of attrition you have to deal with over the whole game. Constant 6v1 battles never served to make it more challenging in an interesting way. It just made it more of a grind with more item usage or center trips. Especially if you were just hunting a specific mon to catch.
If they actually adjust the game to have tougher trainer battles in order to balance the change, I think it would be a great direction.
I don't really have confidence they have thought it out that far, but I can hope...
I think it makes way more sense for you to drop the "this game is supposed to be for me" basis of criticism, its literally nonsensical. The game is obviously different than usual and they said they are targeting a younger more casual audience. If that means nothing to you then you are delusional and creating unreasonable expectations for yourself. They are merely hoping that traditional fans enjoy it, which isn't that crazy, these guys made Sun and Moon, and X and Y, its not like they think traditional fans are hardcore gamers in the first place ?
That doesn't change the fact that it sure as hell doesn't play like one
My conclusion is the exact opposite of yours, though. You think they're only aiming this game at one specific group. I think they're trying to have their cake and force us to eat it, too.
I don't know. I am a core fan and I am looking forward to this game and so are most of my core Pokemon playing friends. It just looks charming and fun, and the game existing does not take away from Gen 8 next year. Why not have both? I'm excited and it looks like it will be very fun.
Well thats something I can agree with. Taking IV and EV would help get the casual to play this game. Its a rather grinding mechanic, so I could see the game going smoother without it.
So why not grab from all Gens instead of giving only Gen 1 special treatment?
Grabbing from the other six gene would not make this game any more complex then it already is. What mechanics would someone have to endure if I wanted my Gardevoir?
Or even just keeping the Gen 1 evolutions? It's not like getting Rhyperior is any more complex then getting a Machamp.
I don't think the game is supposed to be for me. I think they've made a product that outright goes against a lot of what I like about the series, and they're trying to go above and beyond to convince me and others to buy it.
I also think their concept driving this product is flawed, for the exact reason you cited.
They're invisible stats. You can just ignore them. Never in the main story do you have to breed for IVs or farm to EVs. So removing them makes no sense whatsoever. Same goes for natures.
Of course they are, but we're adults and can make what is a very simple deduction. They weren't shy of making it known that its a more casual experience in interviews either.
What's your point here?
Have you seen a single second of footage from the core RPG?
Have you gotten a big inside scoop about the core RPG that the rest of us don't have?
If not, don't get bent out of shape about it.
I'm more concerned about Game Freak adding the mechanics from this game into the upcoming Generation 8 entries, as X/Y & Sun/Moon already made those games passive with A LOT of handholding & linearity, along with forcing you to be friends with a bunch of candy ass nimrods that I didn't give a damn about (never mind the game constantly interrupting me about how to use a Pokémon Centre or how my emotionless avatar is not reacting to the things that are happening in-game).
That is my main concern, as I missed what Black/White & Black/White 2 had offered, both in pacing, difficulty, & post game content.
I mean, its their franchise, of course they can be trusted. I honestly believe that a side series as to not plague the core series with casualization like it has been the last 5 years is the best plan, and have been suggesting it for years. Gen 8 is gonna be crazy thanks to the existence of this game, I can feel it from now.
The obvious success of this game obviously won't affect the 2019 title AT ALL.
Aren't the current mainline games full of handholding already? Seems to me like people are complaining about Let's Go because it isn't targeted at them. Game Freak has stated the 2019 games will follow the more hardcore mechanics several of the fans are used to by now, if anything people should direct their concerns at that title and make sure GF knows they shouldn't water it down, instead of shitting up every Let's Go thread.
I trust them to do good with what they have, but what they have isn't something in interested in
I'll be back for gen 8, hopefully
I'll be back for gen 8, hopefully
My point is that they want this game to be for everyone but are ignoring things that core players want
This whole "they also said its for everyone tho so nuh-uh! I expect a regular pokemon game!" makes no sense to me. Like, they don't even treat regular Pokemon fans like we're older than 12, why exactly does them outright stating the above suddenly not count just because they hope regular fans will enjoy baby handhold snoozefest, which is basically a spiritual sequel to XY and Sun and Moon, in that regard?
Are you complaining about Let's Go, or the game they haven't shown anything of?
So title should be translated using Google too:
Pokemon Co. dice "Confía en nosotros" con Pokemon Let's Go
ポケットモンスターはポケモンと一緒に「Trust us」と言う
Pokemon dice "Confíenos en nosotros" con Pokémon
Pokemon says "Trust us" with Pokemon
:V
Pokemon Co. dice "Confía en nosotros" con Pokemon Let's Go
ポケットモンスターはポケモンと一緒に「Trust us」と言う
Pokemon dice "Confíenos en nosotros" con Pokémon
Pokemon says "Trust us" with Pokemon
:V
Also needs the now classic "MOD EDIT: Read OP"
Exactly. It's not even like adding the 20 or so missing evolutions would suddenly ruin the game experience. Heck, Go users have already been introduced to them.
No, no. That is not what I'm saying at all I'm stating that this is their main focus, they still want to appeal to several groups of people, but that's just it, you can't appeal to everyone trying to appeal to everyone that doesn't work. So the slant of this game is in fact more for casuals, they are trying to appeal to several types of groups here but what fans need to understand is this isn't going to cater to only them and things they might like will be changed to appeal to a wider audience.
In fact it does, that's a lot of mechanics, abilities, move types, things to catch for someone completely new to the series. Perhaps for someone who's played for over a decade it isn't a concern, but this is meant to appeal to MORE than just veterans of the series, and more than just typical gamers. I've seen many women so excited to play this with their husband or boyfriends, even my brother's wife this'll be the first Pokemon game she'll buy because of the simplicity and co-op.
Valid concern, Im also hoping they keep the little good things were seeing in this entry. I hope they can handle this nuance....probably not lol
After the last two generations were the worst in the series and everything revealed about this game makes it look worse and worse, I can't trust them. This will sell millions anyway, and I can only hope future games don't start being more like it going forwards
Let's Go. You said that everything isn't for everyone in regards to Let's Go, when they clearly stated they want this to be for everyone.
"Metroid prime : federation force is a game that absolutely belongs in the metroid series".
Besides my sarcasm, the problem I have is until I see it, I don't believe that they're going to undo any of the handholding over simplifications that the 'hardcore' series single player campaigb has undergone, even with this second series. Ironically, if the game were more like RBY were in spirit, rather than 'only gen 1 Pokémon!' I might be more interested.
Besides my sarcasm, the problem I have is until I see it, I don't believe that they're going to undo any of the handholding over simplifications that the 'hardcore' series single player campaigb has undergone, even with this second series. Ironically, if the game were more like RBY were in spirit, rather than 'only gen 1 Pokémon!' I might be more interested.
There's a difference between a hardcore fan and core fan. Many on this forum are hardcore players who care about IV/EV's and competitive play. Yes the game most likely isn't for them as it doesn't have a competitive component. With regards to general core fans I personally think it is different. I see myself as just a normal core fan and I will buy the game and enjoy it for what it is. Do I like every change they've made? No of course not and I don't except anyone else to like everything about the game either. I will still enjoy my time with it and will be waiting with interest for the 2019 game too.
Again, I wasn't talking to you. I actually quoted someone else outright in this instance.
I mean i want to play it, because i love pokemon games. But please have pro controller support for this game. I mean im all for experiments in games but make it optional. I really dont see myself playing this for 20 hours or more with one joycon.
Besides it should be that hard for them to add pro controller support(unless they want to force a perticular control method, wich is never a good idea in my book..) they colud litterally rip the controll method for portable/handheld mode and put assign it to the pro controller.
The pro controller has gyro, so aiming with gyro and press A button to thow a pokeball should work.
Besides it should be that hard for them to add pro controller support(unless they want to force a perticular control method, wich is never a good idea in my book..) they colud litterally rip the controll method for portable/handheld mode and put assign it to the pro controller.
The pro controller has gyro, so aiming with gyro and press A button to thow a pokeball should work.
They are but they also make big differences during the gameplay as well, the same goes for natures and EVs. Not saying I would be happy with that but I understand the reasoning.
