Super Mario Sunshine is very average when it comes to gameplay, but it perfectly captures the summer atmosphere. I love the Delfino Plaza hub and the music. The game is only good because of the charm, which I think Odyssey misses anyway.
Its amazing. The fluidity of the control is unmatched in any other 3D platformer.
This may apply to the whole GameCube-era Nintendo. And the console itself.It's not a flatout bad game, in fact I'd say it's a good game, but man its lows are fucking LOW.
Don't agree with ugly though, games still looks fantastic.
I loved Mario Sunshine. Didn't even know people didn't like it until the Giant Bomb videos on it.
Such a bad game
They way it opens with flashy airlines, court cases, police corruption, a banana trial, voice acting, Toadsworth, kidnapping, giving Mario a gun.
Such a fucking disaster.
That's what threw me. I couldn't believe that opening sequence shit. The voice acting was so stilted and the cutscene direction was just really fucking weird.
I'm proud that the consensus seems to be that Sunshine isn't particularly great - sometimes you come through, Era.
Now if nostalgic Zoomers would just admit that Double Dash is a rushed, mediocre Mario Kart title, all would be good. And all the Sunshine stank in that game makes it even worse.
Odyssey is mostly a blitz of incoherent worlds (respective to each other), each one failing to justify itself existing in the universe. As a result, they all felt empty and soulless. I didn't care about the fork people is the jist of what I'm getting at. But yes, that level does look very cool and is probably the best one in the game just for that.I have some comments about your other criticisms, but this is by far the most baffling and ridiculous comment about this game I've ever seen.
Odyssey's Capture is a lot more practical than FLUDD, and the main campaign is pretty fast paced. There're also lots of fun mini levels similar to the Secret Courses in Sunshine. I'd say you should try it out (but you probably won't like the postgame if you hated blue coins).I bought it on GameCube on day 1 and was really disappointed with it. I haven't bought a 3D Mario game since (unless you count Super Mario 64 DS). I kind of want to give Odyssey a try but I'm afraid I'll be disappointed again.
It's not really an age thing though. Sunshine's lack of polish is something that's readily apparent when comparing it to it's 6-year-older predecessor, Super Mario 64, which is still lauded today for how well it holds up. Sunshine just has too many clear cut issues stemming from its rushed development. At the end of the day it has a rock-solid foundation, which is why it's still quite beloved, but it is also still a game that you can immediately spot as unfinished. And that's why it's almost universally considered the worst in the series. A Mario game that's anything but polished to a mirror shine is going to stick out.I don't understand why this game gets so much hate. It is an 18 year old game and one of the most pretentious games during its time. It was unique, and to my 6 year old eyes it was damn near perfect. Of course it might of not aged well to some people, but it definitely doesn't not deserve the hate it gets.
The cutscenes are dumb and the game, like Windwaker, is rushed and unfinished. However, also like Windwaker, it's a gem in the rough. It's very much one of the weaker 3D Mario titles due to the state it released in (in a complete and polished state it would probably be number 1, real talk), but it's still a real good game. Gameplay also isn't boring, imo.
Best controlling Mario to this day. Incredible water surface physics and water graphics for the time. Fun new theme instead of generic Mushroom Kingdom, and cleaning up was fun and satisfying.
Just not quite finished, it was rushed.
This.
The last 3d mario that felt like an adventure. Odyssey brought back some of that feel, but was jarring as the jumping from world to world made it feel like a bunch of levels, much like the galaxy and 3d world games. In terms of overall enjoyment, i would say that it came second to super mario 64 and also had great music. Maybe the music in the future titles just wasn't as good?
I agree with this. I like the idea of Super Mario Sunshine much more than I actually enjoy the game.I actually think the game looks better than it actually is. Pretty nice looking aesthetic, super fun mechanics, speedruns are awesome. In practice the game has a bunch of tedious bullshit that isn't obvious by watching videos.