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Octopath Traveler (videogamedunkey)
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Ophilia's story is one the weakest in the game, Primrose, Olberic, Cyrus and Alfyn are great, Tressa is also such a joyful character that makes her story fun.
I dont agree with this at all. I feel like I always have coverage for hitting something. I have the hunter, thief and apothecary and I have not found a battle yet where I struggled to hit enemy weaknesses. The only thing the apothecary added was ice, so I did pretty well before I had him too.
Guess I'll give Primrose a go then.
I feel like the dialogue is over blown. Bad parts for sure but not a weakness I haven't seen in other game and I'd say 80% of it is good
There is a connection and the stories come together somehow, i have not played to that point though. The beginning is very loose, characters help themselves out without much reason, but it has to be that way so you can travel the world how you want. And there is some banter between characters. It's not bad, they are nice little stories and it grows, but i have stil to find out how the stories connect in the end (i only know that they do)
His "reviews" are often very sarcastic and he takes some things out of proportion and out of context. Especially when it comes to JRPGs. Of course i haven't seen all his stuff, but our tastes in JRPGs are diametrically opposed.
That's another reason for me to not use his videos for buying decisions.
I'm a dunkey fan, but I expected more from this. He clearly played a couple of the Chapter 1's and got bored, which is fine, but usually his videos have more to say than stuff like "random battles are tedious" and "'anime' writing and bad voice acting can get annoying"
People use his videos for buying decisions? I usually watch his videos after I bought and completed a game :P
I hate to say it but I have a feeling DQXI won't even get that luxury.
Dude doesn't even like JRPGs. In what other medium do we listen to commentary of people like this. Imagine watching football with announcers who hate football haha.
In my case Therion has been the last I'picked up... I've started from the hunter and went clock wise.
I'm travelling in the direction of the Dancer second chapter and in this case also I expect I'll have to grind a bit
I should've clarified that my post was aiming at people that used to like dunkey that stoped just bc he didnt like a game they liked or people who say he's not qualified to review a certain genre.
I don't agree with him at all, I think OT is a wonderful game. I can't even get mad. It's a 3 minute video for Christ sakes.
I don't think he would be *as* mad if the story was any good. There's just no good reason to keep playing.
Truth to be told, when I've first heard of OT, I was expecting the characters to meet and have their stories intertwined like in the Wild ARMs series. Reading that that aspect is not as developed as I hoped (ie. Not developed at all) left me a little disappointed. I still think I'll buy the game eventually, but I'll wait for a sale.
Man, didn't expect OT fans to be so salty! Secondly, he likes both Persona 5 and FFXV so it's not like he universally hates RPG's. From what I've seen of OT it doesn't seem to push the JRPG formula forward at all and its not unsurprising that it's a turn off for many people including Dunkey. I haven't finished most of the classic SNES RPG's but from what I heard they all combined an interesting story with good combat (Chrono Trigger, FF6, Earthbound etc.).
I'm actually really surprised that merely the combat being good in OT is enough for people to put dozens of hours into it. For me the appeal of a JRPG always seemed to be the journey with the people you play with, combining narrative with the hook of making them stronger along the way. To me it seems like the writing in JRPG's has taken an absolute plummet compared to the SNES/PS1/PS2 era.
I'm actually really surprised that merely the combat being good in OT is enough for people to put dozens of hours into it. For me the appeal of a JRPG always seemed to be the journey with the people you play with, combining narrative with the hook of making them stronger along the way. To me it seems like the writing in JRPG's has taken an absolute plummet compared to the SNES/PS1/PS2 era.
Maybe people like more than combat about OT?
The game has great worldbuilding with 90% of NPCs having some sort of a backstory, is impressively open-ended not only letting you tackle the story content in any order you like, but also having sidequests with multiple viable solutions and outcomes and the presentation which many find appealing. That's without mentioning the great soundtrack.
Furthermore, from what I have experienced so far, the writing are passable at it' worst, with some moments that are pretty great. Characters have clear arcs. The seperate story approach allows for stories to be different in tone. The scope of those stories is also refreshing in how grounded and personal they are.
Furthermore, so far, the stories have avoided some of the more problematic tropes that have plagued the genre. I mean, you can look at Primrose, a character who has spent years of her life working in a sleazy pleasure district and notice how she's dressed more tastefully than shy women in other RPGs and yeah...
All in all, the game has flaws, but for me those flaws aren't enough to detract from what is a rather engaging experience. It's good that it has been recieved so well, because a sequel that properly builds upon this game can become a masterpiece.
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A lot of people actually like the writing and characters in Octopath, though. To pretend that people only like Octopath because of it's combat is disingenuous.
Dunkey's stated himself that the only traditional type RPGs he's ever enjoyed are Paper Mario 2, Skies of Arcadia, Ni No Kuni and Undertale. Outside of that he abhors both turn-based combat and anime, so even if you want to bring up exceptions there is no reason to believe that Octopath was going to convince him otherwise. Him liking Final Fantasy XV isn't a surprise when it leans more towards action styled game play.
The biggest issue isn't him not liking the game or that his points aren't wrong or whatever. Its that its a 3 minute video where he shits on the fact that some of the dialogue is cheesy by cutting up a scene and that he doesn't like grinding with a small mention of "promising elements". Like what kinda shit is that? Am I suppose to take this video seriously at all? Its a minimum effort video.
