I eventually gave up & moved on to another mission. Good to know that it was the right call, so thanks.
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Marvel's Avengers - Beta impressions
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All of the characters can fulfill any role you want. The other two skill trees allow for this. I'm sure some character will be inherently better at some roles though.
I had one mission tonight where I loaded in with another player. I was Iron Man and he was Hulk.
Then the game got confused and loaded up two Ms. Marvel's and two Black Widows.
Then the game got confused and loaded up two Ms. Marvel's and two Black Widows.
Love Nolan North as Nathan Drake
Hate him as Tony Stark
WAY better Voice Acting for him in Ultimate Alliance 3 and Iron Man VR
Hate him as Tony Stark
WAY better Voice Acting for him in Ultimate Alliance 3 and Iron Man VR
Wow you unlocked the life model decoysI had one mission tonight where I loaded in with another player. I was Iron Man and he was Hulk.
Then the game got confused and loaded up two Ms. Marvel's and two Black Widows.
LESS TALKY, MORE FIGHTY just sounds like a Deadpool line. What the fuck, Crystal Dynamics?
Idk why but this beta just feels off for me. When I got to the first story mission, I played the first fight scene as hulk and just turned it off
My most basic takeaway from the game is that they did this game bass ackwards. It earnestly feels like they wanted to make a loot grinding game in which you play as various Avengers. The proper way (imo) would be to make a game where you play as various Avengers and just so happen to grind loot.
The story mode is obviously present, but I don't see it being the focus of the game at all. There's too much emphasis on making your number go up to make me believe they're using the story mode as the main hook. Like you've said, I don't understand what their goal actually is here. I don't feel compelled to get loot because that loot only makes numbers go up; My Iron Man won't look any different after I've gotten him full Legendary gear than he did when I started the game. And that sucks. Visual upgrades is one of the de facto goals for these games.
This seems like a solid 7 out of 10 game. I wish it was better, but it's fun enough and it will probably be ok with friends.
Got it, that helps a lot.
Anyone make a wiki or something with all the costumes?
Well I've gotten everything on the battle card for iron man and black widow. Working on hulk and ms marvel now. Sucks that the timer ticked all the way down for new weeklys but didn't actually reset. Game is addictive as hell
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When does this beta end exactly? How many hours left?
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So far its ok. Kamala and the Widow are pretty good, grabbing people and smashing others with them with the hulk is satisfying but Iron man doesn't work very well for me.
1. Some of the gameplay cuts seem very jarring like you finish destroying reactors with enemies around then poof the enemies disappear, but there is still more mission.
2. Iron man's flight in doors isn't that great, and his chest laser special move seems to only be useful for big guys because the turning is so slow
3. Defending the point objectives can get pretty hectic in single player because you have no command over your allies.
1. Some of the gameplay cuts seem very jarring like you finish destroying reactors with enemies around then poof the enemies disappear, but there is still more mission.
2. Iron man's flight in doors isn't that great, and his chest laser special move seems to only be useful for big guys because the turning is so slow
3. Defending the point objectives can get pretty hectic in single player because you have no command over your allies.
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Finally managed to play the demo. First random question: I pre-ordered on PS4, but redeemed the beta key for PC because I wanted to see how it would perform (I didn't realize at the time that pre-order goodies would be tied to this key, nor that Spiderman was a PS4-only thing). Did I screw myself out of pre-order bonuses? Or do they carry over across platforms because they're tied to a Square Enix account?
With that out of the way: it's fine. I think if this was a standard single-played game with a decent campaign, I'd be reasonably happy. There are two main aspects I don't really like: the loot, which feels like a distraction and an annoyance (why am I juggling four or five different types of resources and all sorts of gear I barely understand?), and the Hulk, who I don't understand how to play very well. Of all the characters I played in the demo (up to getting access to the War Table), the Hulk weirdly felt like the slowest AND the most fragile, which is completely bizarre. Ranged enemies just seem to fuck you over, and the prime robot assassins with the purple swords seem to be a guaranteed second hit if they land the first one, and they hurt. You're the HULK. Why is it possible to chip away at his health and kill him so easily? I didn't like him at all.
Hilariously, playing as Kamala, those exact same robot assassins are a piece of cake. Dodging feels a lot more natural and I do pretty much the same amount of damage despite not having the Hulk's brute force. Seems real weird, but I wouldn't worry about it at all (maining Kamala would be fine for me!) except that it sounds like the campaign forces you to use specific characters at specific times, and random matchmaking missions will lock out particular heroes as soon as someone selects them so you'll have to learn how to play different roles. I fear the mission I have to play as Hulk and fuck it up for everyone because I'm bad at him.
I dunno. I guess I still have that $55 CAD pre-order, but I find it hard to believe this game won't be on sale for that price again very soon, even if it's successful. Still on the fence, and worried I'm about to walk into a trap like I did with Destiny 1 back in the day.
With that out of the way: it's fine. I think if this was a standard single-played game with a decent campaign, I'd be reasonably happy. There are two main aspects I don't really like: the loot, which feels like a distraction and an annoyance (why am I juggling four or five different types of resources and all sorts of gear I barely understand?), and the Hulk, who I don't understand how to play very well. Of all the characters I played in the demo (up to getting access to the War Table), the Hulk weirdly felt like the slowest AND the most fragile, which is completely bizarre. Ranged enemies just seem to fuck you over, and the prime robot assassins with the purple swords seem to be a guaranteed second hit if they land the first one, and they hurt. You're the HULK. Why is it possible to chip away at his health and kill him so easily? I didn't like him at all.
Hilariously, playing as Kamala, those exact same robot assassins are a piece of cake. Dodging feels a lot more natural and I do pretty much the same amount of damage despite not having the Hulk's brute force. Seems real weird, but I wouldn't worry about it at all (maining Kamala would be fine for me!) except that it sounds like the campaign forces you to use specific characters at specific times, and random matchmaking missions will lock out particular heroes as soon as someone selects them so you'll have to learn how to play different roles. I fear the mission I have to play as Hulk and fuck it up for everyone because I'm bad at him.
I dunno. I guess I still have that $55 CAD pre-order, but I find it hard to believe this game won't be on sale for that price again very soon, even if it's successful. Still on the fence, and worried I'm about to walk into a trap like I did with Destiny 1 back in the day.
There's three levels of combat challenges on the helicarrier, you just have to beat them all with a single character. It's not too tricky as long as you've got a handle of the combat.
When does this get unlocked? I just started the forest mission with Bruce.
this game has one of the more enjoyable Photo Modes. The only other photo mode i ever really cared to use before was the one in God of War.
I can see myself using this one a lot.
I would like if they added some sort of comic filter and borders. Or even something to make word bubbles....and make little comic looking scenes
I can see myself using this one a lot.
I would like if they added some sort of comic filter and borders. Or even something to make word bubbles....and make little comic looking scenes
1. How do you vault over enemies?(I forgot)
2. What's Lightning Hands?(In reference to Widow's challenge card?)
2. What's Lightning Hands?(In reference to Widow's challenge card?)
I did it last weekend, so I don't remember exactly. Not too far after that. You'll walk around the hub as Kamala, I think you can do it right after that.
It'll be easier if you level someone up a bit to get more skills.
Hold Dodge (on PS4 it's Circle) and press the left stick towards them.
I think there are two story missions you go on with Hulk and Kamala before you are instructed to visit the HARM Room and have Kamala play Iron Man. Then you'll unlock the Helicarrier as a mission location from the War Room table and have access to Iron Man and Black Widow. Then you select the first HARM Room challenge mission from the table and after you finish, you'll unlock the next mission. There are three. Apparently you need to use one character to go through all three.
anything thats not an online FPS will lose players. But look at Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. A game with a similar setup. With probably even less reliance on the online element. That game was relevant for nearly a year after release. And i bet it would have stayed relevant had Avengers not come around, and had they continued to support it with more DLC.
So its a stretch for me to think this games gonna like die quick or anything. I think its more likely to do well. Then again we dont have much to compare this too completely. And Ultimate Alliance had a lot more characters to choose from.
So I got a good five hours on the beta and I will say that I am ready for the game. Can't say it is a high vote of confidence, but it didn't feel like it was going to be a nightmare for the base launch.
I guess the biggest problem I have is that we don't have a good idea of progression yet for Avengers since after you get to the base and get JARVIS online, the game comes to a grinding halt. Of course, the point being is to get players to enjoy the missions and all that fun stuff, but for me, I might actually take my time in playing the story mode, unlocking all the characters, and working towards completing goals and objectives before actually going online with random players. Suddenly going into the random missions felt like there was a small set of examples to showcase the game well since there were a few kinds of missions that did end as fast as they started. Perhaps when you go through the story, level up your team and get everyone to a state where you can get your mileage out of any of the six playable characters, you can set up fun team comps to back you up in single-player while knowing which character you gel with the best to play online with.
Luckily for me, I do like games that kind of has repetitive action, but I know it is a feeling not shared by many. It does seem like if, given the option, players would rather rush to the objective and finish immediately rather than explore a few of the areas that are set up to get loot. Alongside with that, progression is difficult to say too since I only bothered to get Ironman maxed out (which since it is a beta, you don't get the chance to unlock all the skills), but it does make me wonder if we could see for the full game. Will we see "different styles" for the Avengers like alternative skills and ultimates? Or is what we see is what we're going to get (except that we don't know the rest of the tree)?
I'm guessing both considering how in one screenshot I found online did provide that answer, and we do see how there's "Primary," "Specialty," "Capability," and "Utility."
I'm actually curious to know what would be under the other three tabs, but I'm guessing those were left out so that players would just focus on improving their hero's movesets. That or maybe "spoilers" for the full game; who knows?
Overall, I will say that I got what I was expecting and it is kind of nice how you can have characters all have different playstyles while having similar things going for them. Kind of like how everyone does have a range move to their name and how (in the case of Ironman and black widow) you can change around the projectile you use. It was actually what sold me to play with the two of them over Hulk and Marvel since it felt like there was just a bit more variety in the gameplay rather than just "mash Square/X to knock the target over." But would I recommend it? That's harder to say.
I know for some, the idea of Spider-Man being on the PS version will be a selling point, but the game itself needs to be engaging for a good 3+ months before he arrives (if the early 2021 release date is the plan for him). It would be a shame if by the time Spider-Man does join Avengers, the player base up and disappears and a small percentage of those who got the game actually stuck around to play as him. Whereas if the game does have a big launch and becomes a huge success, you can get that Spider-Man will be the cherry on top of that cake (and it wouldn't be "PS Avengers needed Spider-Man in order to be successful").
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My thoughts are kind of all over the place at the moment. It is less about "Am I sold on the game?" and more, "Will this sell others?" I'm ready for the release in September, but can't say for sure if others are yet...
Edit: Found a different screenshot that shows what looks to be an updated look at the skills page. Thanks, Arkestry. Mind you this was from the War Table stream showcasing Primary, Specialty and and Mastery. Hard to say what they could be covering, but I took a small guess at a few of them in a post below this one.
I guess the biggest problem I have is that we don't have a good idea of progression yet for Avengers since after you get to the base and get JARVIS online, the game comes to a grinding halt. Of course, the point being is to get players to enjoy the missions and all that fun stuff, but for me, I might actually take my time in playing the story mode, unlocking all the characters, and working towards completing goals and objectives before actually going online with random players. Suddenly going into the random missions felt like there was a small set of examples to showcase the game well since there were a few kinds of missions that did end as fast as they started. Perhaps when you go through the story, level up your team and get everyone to a state where you can get your mileage out of any of the six playable characters, you can set up fun team comps to back you up in single-player while knowing which character you gel with the best to play online with.
Luckily for me, I do like games that kind of has repetitive action, but I know it is a feeling not shared by many. It does seem like if, given the option, players would rather rush to the objective and finish immediately rather than explore a few of the areas that are set up to get loot. Alongside with that, progression is difficult to say too since I only bothered to get Ironman maxed out (which since it is a beta, you don't get the chance to unlock all the skills), but it does make me wonder if we could see for the full game. Will we see "different styles" for the Avengers like alternative skills and ultimates? Or is what we see is what we're going to get (except that we don't know the rest of the tree)?
I'm guessing both considering how in one screenshot I found online did provide that answer, and we do see how there's "Primary," "Specialty," "Capability," and "Utility."
I'm actually curious to know what would be under the other three tabs, but I'm guessing those were left out so that players would just focus on improving their hero's movesets. That or maybe "spoilers" for the full game; who knows?
Overall, I will say that I got what I was expecting and it is kind of nice how you can have characters all have different playstyles while having similar things going for them. Kind of like how everyone does have a range move to their name and how (in the case of Ironman and black widow) you can change around the projectile you use. It was actually what sold me to play with the two of them over Hulk and Marvel since it felt like there was just a bit more variety in the gameplay rather than just "mash Square/X to knock the target over." But would I recommend it? That's harder to say.
I know for some, the idea of Spider-Man being on the PS version will be a selling point, but the game itself needs to be engaging for a good 3+ months before he arrives (if the early 2021 release date is the plan for him). It would be a shame if by the time Spider-Man does join Avengers, the player base up and disappears and a small percentage of those who got the game actually stuck around to play as him. Whereas if the game does have a big launch and becomes a huge success, you can get that Spider-Man will be the cherry on top of that cake (and it wouldn't be "PS Avengers needed Spider-Man in order to be successful").
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My thoughts are kind of all over the place at the moment. It is less about "Am I sold on the game?" and more, "Will this sell others?" I'm ready for the release in September, but can't say for sure if others are yet...
Edit: Found a different screenshot that shows what looks to be an updated look at the skills page. Thanks, Arkestry. Mind you this was from the War Table stream showcasing Primary, Specialty and and Mastery. Hard to say what they could be covering, but I took a small guess at a few of them in a post below this one.
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Man I'm really loving this beta. There's times where the grind is a pain in the ass but the gameplay is so fun and chaotic. Im curious how squad will differ. I think rocksteady will nail the combat. Hopefully I'll be able to play it on my pro like this game. Back to avengers I've been using hulk mainly during these two weeks. I've also used iron man a few times. I think I'll try black widow based off these recommendations. Is the frozen tundra vault secret mission only allowed to to be played once? I did it with hulk and it was fun. Also where do you get dna cards from?
I think that's an old screenshot as newer ones show there's just two other tabs. I think they're "Specialty" and "Mastery".
Ah! Thank you Arkestry.
Just looked it up and found it.
It does seem a bit more organized this way, but again, I do find myself wondering what those two are. Even in the Reddit that I grabbed the screenshot from didn't seem to explain much, but one comment took a guess in saying "Speciality focuses on the 3 heroic skills support, assault and ultimate" while Mastery is more along the lines of how augmenting moves (like being able to manually target enemies with ranged attacks).
Hard to say how deep it will go without seeing it in full, and unfortunately my "speculation game" hasn't been all too keen with Avengers as of late. But thanks again for the heads up.
I know in one of the other tabs the hulkbuster gets powered up with missiles and other things for ironmanAh! Thank you Arkestry.
Just looked it up and found it.
It does seem a bit more organized this way, but again, I do find myself wondering what those two are. Even in the Reddit that I grabbed the screenshot from didn't seem to explain much, but one comment took a guess in saying "Speciality focuses on the 3 heroic skills support, assault and ultimate" while Mastery is more along the lines of how augmenting moves (like being able to manually target enemies with ranged attacks).
Hard to say how deep it will go without seeing it in full, and unfortunately my "speculation game" hasn't been all too keen with Avengers as of late. But thanks again for the heads up.
Doesn't unlock a few days early on PS4? If you pre-ordered it on PS4 you can play it for a few days.Me on September 4th once my pre-orders unlock.
From what we've seen, not exactly.
The three trees are Primary, Specialty, and Mastery Primary looks to be straightforward additional abilities, Specialty looks to tweak abilities into different forms, Mastery looks to push your character towards melee, ranged, or support. Each set of trees has a different impact on the character overall, rather than being completely different.
That's only for the Deluxe Edition. I got the standard version.
I'm...having a ton of fun?
It's a bit janky but I'm absolutely loving the "Fuck yeah I'm an avenger" feel after the shitty start
It's a bit janky but I'm absolutely loving the "Fuck yeah I'm an avenger" feel after the shitty start
You aren't locked out. The devs said you can immediately go into the post-campaign 4 player co-op. It has it's own menu option in the main menu. You do not need to engage with the campaign at all if you don't want to.
Tried the beta again, this game is wait for discount for me. The main story was fun, but I tried some of the other missions, and they weren't. I've got no interest in chasing loot or playing with others. So when it's really cheap, I'll grab it for the story.
Apparently even more names of playable characters was found in the PC version of the beta. I didn't look into the source of it but it adds more echo characters.
www.reddit.com
Names of abilities and stuff in the pastebin too. Hmm.
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Names of abilities and stuff in the pastebin too. Hmm.
There's a bigger list of playable characters Reddit and people on Discord found within the files.
Apparently even more names of playable characters was found in the PC version of the beta. I didn't look into the source of it but it adds more echo characters.
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Names of abilities and stuff in the pastebin too. Hmm.
She was the surprise for me as well.
Switching between her weapons and zipping around comboing is super fun
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Yeah me to. Also its always kinda wait and see how the content is done after launch for these games and with next gen coming also. I rather wait to play it on next gen also.
Played a couple of hours and made it to the Chimera's war table. It was fine, average even. Some characters feel good to play (Miss Marvel, Iron Man), others don't (Hulk, Captain). Loot is completely pointless and the action is the worst offender: it's just very basic so far. I'll play a bit more this Sunday with a friend but I'm not feeling it. I'm glad it's not great, it'll make me sticking to my decision of not buying it (on account of the Spider-man exclusivity deal) that much easier.
Oh yeah, PC performance - not great.
Oh yeah, PC performance - not great.
I think the key is using his Rage Mode or whatever it's called (holding R2/RT whilst attacking), which will regenerate his health for every successful strike (and I think there was a note that if you get hit you lose a bit more health than usual as a trade-off).
I'm still going to wait for a review before I buy but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed
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