Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,881
Day doesn't end at 5 EST? Okay.
This is fascinating. I wanna break down my reaction to maybe engage some conversation with everyone:

On the one hand, this is pretty original. Nobody else is digging that much into nin, much less voting him (or wasn't until Vere asked him a question, but that was just a conversation). There are a few ways to potentially read this:
-it's a legit scumhunting vote and townmalus thinks nin is scum
-counterpoint: so far I think it's hard to say this because malus hasn't really tried to drum up many votes and
-I feel like nin is not super likely to die today
-another counterpoint: while not impossible for scum to start trains, it's not unheard of, but
-why waste time on one that won't go anywhere, maybe? seems like wasted effort. so is it legit or performative? I'm really not sure here.

But what bugs me a bit is that malus started the day with pushing back on my townread of nin's entrance:


A few things here:

Zipped has been FAR more erratic than nin today, from both a meta angle and from a current-content angle. But malus settles on nin. As things have developed, how has nin really gotten scummier over the day vs Zipped? That's odd to me.

But that rehash thing is what I keep coming back to. I really don't know how much of malus's posts aren't a rehash themselves (I'm about to go through them as quickly as I can but I'm short on time) of things other people have said, outside the nin content.

and malus in general? offers vote data, which is both useful but can also be considered, at the root, a rehash-
and if he's rehashing in his own posts-
is he projecting?

Ugh, I really don't know if I have time to figure this out today and if I don't I don't know if I'll gamble my vote there.

Overall: One of the biggest things that stands out to me is that malus avoids some questions or just answers them sideways - very similar to Kalor, in fact, in terms of response. For instance, the Natiko read. He doesn't answer me directly but just snarks in response and it's really a very easy question: if you don't scumread me, why scumread Natiko without additional information than what we have right now? If you have a reason to disagree with that, it should be easy enough to answer directly. If you don't, but want to sow doubt anyway, you sidestep or deflect. malus impressively did both.
This is a good analysis. What I keep coming back to thinking about Malus is his attitude towards being shot and losing a vest. It's very odd, enough that I can't understand where he's coming from at the moment or how it could possibly severely neuter his role. But maybe it is? I'm very conflicted on this because Malus being very general when he first popped back up does nothing for my confidence in him.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
I'm not voting blarg today and fuck me if that's the wrong choice.

also I can hear Sorian yelling at me from the wherever but that's fine, he can yell
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
i dont like either but will go with B since the others are at least here and can be talked to

Vote: B-Dubs
 

Royal_Flush

Member
Oct 25, 2017
879
Day doesn't end at 5 EST? Okay.

This is a good analysis. What I keep coming back to thinking about Malus is his attitude towards being shot and losing a vest. It's very odd, enough that I can't understand where he's coming from at the moment or how it could possibly severely neuter his role. But maybe it is? I'm very conflicted on this because Malus being very general when he first popped back up does nothing for my confidence in him.
I could write you 10 roles that care about having a vest and then fucking with the person shooting you. 9 of them are Town.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Day doesn't end at 5 EST? Okay.

This is a good analysis. What I keep coming back to thinking about Malus is his attitude towards being shot and losing a vest. It's very odd, enough that I can't understand where he's coming from at the moment or how it could possibly severely neuter his role. But maybe it is? I'm very conflicted on this because Malus being very general when he first popped back up does nothing for my confidence in him.
yes, can we PLEASE make this more focus tomorrow because he came in with all this late today and it needs a thorough going-over to parse it
 
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Fran

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Oct 25, 2017
6,167
The vote tool is down. We will extend the time 5 minutes. I'm going to post a vote count next
 

nin

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Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
okay. that makes it even more interesting.

We got 5 more minutes
 
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Fran

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,167
I have this:

malus 3
vere
saw
kyan

blarg 4
donna
blarg
malus
salva

b-dbu 6
monkey
aeleus
natikpo
royal
nin
kyan
 

Sawneeks

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,877
Like if Malus was that worried about his best power why did he ignore my read, my vote, and then my shot?
 

Aeleus

Member
Nov 29, 2018
3,111
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start

B-Dubs (6 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,339 #2,341
Dr. Monkey - #2,543
Aeleus - #2,550
Natiko - #2,552
Royal_Flush - #2,553
Nin - #2,558
Kyanrute - #2,559

Blargonaut (4 votes)
Blargonaut - #1,414 #2,250
Stuart444 - #1,735 #2,238
empressdonna - #2,039
Blargonaut - #2,276 #2,304
Blargonaut - #2,313
Royal_Flush - #2,324 #2,326
malus - #2,539
SalvaPot - #2,561

malus (2 votes)
Sawneeks - #1,570 #2,262
Natiko - #2,217 #2,552
Blargonaut - #2,250 #2,276
Zippedpinhead - #2,271 #2,273
Sawneeks - #2,279
Dr. Monkey - #2,297 #2,342
Royal_Flush - #2,346 #2,348
Kyanrute - #2,419 #2,559
Verelios - #2,566

Dr. Monkey (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,323 #2,324

Stuart444 (0 votes)
Kalor - #1,662 #2,058
SalvaPot - #1,678 #2,090
SalvaPot - #2,121 #2,299

Natiko (0 votes)
malus - #2,219 #2,452
Royal_Flush - #2,332 #2,333

Royal_Flush (0 votes)
Blargonaut - #2,304 #2,313
Royal_Flush - #2,334 #2,335

Sawneeks (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,328 #2,329

Kyanrute (0 votes)
Kyanrute - #2,284 #2,284
Royal_Flush - #2,337 #2,339

Verelios (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,329 #2,332

Kalor (0 votes)
Muffin - #1,745 #2,395

empressdonna (0 votes)
Nin - #1,444 #1,825
Royal_Flush - #2,341 #2,343
SalvaPot - #2,357 #2,359

Aeleus (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,335 #2,337
Nin - #2,461 #2,558

SalvaPot (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,326 #2,328

Muffin (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,333 #2,334
Dr. Monkey - #2,342 #2,416

Nin (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,343 #2,346
malus - #2,452 #2,539

Zippedpinhead (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,348 #2,350
Aeleus - #2,457 #2,550

Not voting: B-Dubs, Muffin, Zippedpinhead

Post Counts:
Dr. Monkey: 196 Blargonaut: 125 SalvaPot: 88 Verelios: 86 Nin: 86 Stuart444: 77 Natiko: 69 Sawneeks: 67 Royal_Flush: 64 Kalor: 46 Aeleus: 42 Kyanrute: 41 malus: 40 Muffin: 36 empressdonna: 33 Zippedpinhead: 18 B-Dubs: 14

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Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Why not kill him today?

Nothing from what you've said over the past page has changed my mind about him.
Because I have a wiggling doubt that makes me not feel great about it at the same time. And when some of the people I wanted to depend on for conversation aren't here I don't feel super confident in that vote.
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
Dr.Monkey
Aeleus
Natiko
Royal
nin

all shifted to
B-Dubs

Salva
Voted blarg

Vere voted malus
 

Natiko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,264
So B-Dubs votes turmoil D1. I went back through and here's all of the preceding mentions of turm by him leading to that:


He has the same reaction most of us did to turm's evaluation of Blarg.





He jumps into theorizing why turm may have done this and generally seems prepared to not join that wagon.


After getting called out by Saw for his reaction to turm he now is willing to vote there after all.


And then ultimately does vote due to turmoil flipping and voting Blarg after all. He does mention at one point he Town reads Stu, so it makes sense that he wouldn't have gone down that path, but the progression that led to the turm vote is strange.
My thoughts on his D1 vote again fwiw

Why not kill him today?

Nothing from what you've said over the past page has changed my mind about him.
It was so, so quiet something seemed off
 

Sawneeks

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,877
I'm sticking to my vote. I don't know why people shifted to dubs with the lack of reasons in posts. Same for Blarg. I know I woke up late but still.
 
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Fran

Fran

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,167
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End

B-Dubs (4 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,339 #2,341
Dr. Monkey - #2,543 #2,593
Aeleus - #2,550
Natiko - #2,552
Royal_Flush - #2,553
Nin - #2,558 #2,590
Kyanrute - #2,559

malus (4 votes)
Sawneeks - #1,570 #2,262
Natiko - #2,217 #2,552
Blargonaut - #2,250 #2,276
Zippedpinhead - #2,271 #2,273
Sawneeks - #2,279
Dr. Monkey - #2,297 #2,342
Royal_Flush - #2,346 #2,348
Kyanrute - #2,419 #2,559
Verelios - #2,566
Nin - #2,590
Dr. Monkey - #2,593

Blargonaut (4 votes)
Blargonaut - #1,414 #2,250
Stuart444 - #1,735 #2,238
empressdonna - #2,039
Blargonaut - #2,276 #2,304
Blargonaut - #2,313
Royal_Flush - #2,324 #2,326
malus - #2,539
SalvaPot - #2,561

Dr. Monkey (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,323 #2,324

Stuart444 (0 votes)
Kalor - #1,662 #2,058
SalvaPot - #1,678 #2,090
SalvaPot - #2,121 #2,299

Natiko (0 votes)
malus - #2,219 #2,452
Royal_Flush - #2,332 #2,333

Royal_Flush (0 votes)
Blargonaut - #2,304 #2,313
Royal_Flush - #2,334 #2,335

Sawneeks (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,328 #2,329

Kyanrute (0 votes)
Kyanrute - #2,284 #2,284
Royal_Flush - #2,337 #2,339

Verelios (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,329 #2,332

Kalor (0 votes)
Muffin - #1,745 #2,395

empressdonna (0 votes)
Nin - #1,444 #1,825
Royal_Flush - #2,341 #2,343
SalvaPot - #2,357 #2,359

Aeleus (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,335 #2,337
Nin - #2,461 #2,558

SalvaPot (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,326 #2,328

Muffin (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,333 #2,334
Dr. Monkey - #2,342 #2,416

Nin (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,343 #2,346
malus - #2,452 #2,539

Zippedpinhead (0 votes)
Royal_Flush - #2,348 #2,350
Aeleus - #2,457 #2,550

Not voting: B-Dubs, Muffin, Zippedpinhead

Post Counts:
Dr. Monkey: 201 Blargonaut: 128 Verelios: 88 SalvaPot: 88 Nin: 88 Stuart444: 77 Natiko: 70 Sawneeks: 70 Royal_Flush: 64 Kalor: 46 Aeleus: 43 Kyanrute: 41 malus: 40 Muffin: 36 empressdonna: 35 Zippedpinhead: 18 B-Dubs: 14

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