I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years).
That is still a false equivalency.Sure, but there's a distinction to make between games that are delisted due to legal or technical issues and a platform holder choosing to take entire stores offline. The analogue on PC isn't the dozens upon dozens of games that have been rendered unavailable over the years due to licence expirations or whatever; rather, it would be if Valve were to suddenly say, "In three months, we'll no longer be selling content that released before Windows 8."
But it's again two different things, There are plenty of storefronts that have disappeared and luckily those titles are mostly preserved and playable but there is a huge difference between PC and consoles. Do I agree with them shutting down the vita/psp and ps3 stores? No. Do I understand it? Yes absolutely and I wish they would keep the storefronts up permanently.My point is that Valve has not pulled down swathes of titles like this. The games you are referring to were never on Steam to begin with. There are similarly many PlayStation games that never saw a digital release, but that's not the topic at hand here. As an example: the first game I bought on Steam was Portal back in 2007. I can still go on Steam and buy Portal in 2021. I will no longer be able to buy anything released digitally on a PlayStation prior to 2013 (and not everything after 2013 either, in the case of Vita and some cross-generation PS3 titles). Imagine if Valve had created such a hole in the Steam library. It'd be ridiculous.
Yeah this is true. Things did seem a lot more consumer orientended but this what's happening seems rather agressive. I don't like it at all.I tend to agree, but like I just posted in another thread, the PS4 era people were the ones that gave up on BC. There's no reason to not have PS1 and PS2 support on PS4, but instead Tretton, Hirai, et. al. passed on everything except for trying to sell us a handful of PS2 games they already sold us on PS3, except more expensive (oh and the apparently sacred trophies).
If I recall, that was put on hold because they were working on ensuring that all those plus the Xbone games will work on Series S/X. Now that the console is out, we can only presume that the program will be making a return.
Well, time to get radical and start releasing the source code for games then if publishers consider them no longer comercially viable.
Just looking into this from what I can see there's tons of stuff already not available on the 360 marketplace. In the GB region, of the top thirty best selling games of all time, half of them don't seem to be purchasable. Is it different on the console itself or am I missing something? I get it with the licenced games but... Halo?
- FIFA 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
- Forza Motorsport 3, 4
- Forza Horizon
- Halo 3, Halo Reach
- Battlefield 4
- Rock Band 3
But Microsoft stopped adding Xbox 360 and Xbox games to be backward compatible. So if the old store shuts down, and we should all assume it will at some point, all those Xbox 360 games will no longer be accessible. So they're no longer making effort for those platforms.
My 64GB Vita memory card died last week, and I'm not willing to jailbreak because I can't gamble with my PSN account like that. Replacing it is going to be costly.
So since the Vita store is going down a month later, does that mean I can hold off on purchasing some things like PS1 classics that are available on both the Vita and PS3?
It's a shame that I missed the boat on Gone With The Wind's theatrical run.
No possible way to see it.
Sucks to suck.
Garbage. Fucking Sony. "will enable us to enhance the customer experience even further", yeah right 🙄
The Steam comparison doesn't really make any sense, though. There's no Steam 2 and Steam 3 that are architecturally incompatible with Steam 1.My point is that Valve has not pulled down large swaths of titles like this. The games you are referring to were never on Steam to begin with. There are similarly many PlayStation games that never saw a digital release, but that's not the topic at hand here. As an example: the first game I bought on Steam was Portal back in 2007. I can still go on Steam and buy Portal in 2021. I will no longer be able to buy anything released digitally on a PlayStation prior to 2013 (and not everything after 2013 either, in the case of Vita and some cross-generation PS3 titles). Imagine if Valve had created such a hole in the Steam library. It'd be ridiculous.
PC and console are different and are treated and handled differently.
And this is a consequence of design decisions made by the hardware provider; it's not something written in stone, and solutions exist for the barriers which make it challenging.PC and console are different and are treated and handled differently.
My 64GB Vita memory card died last week, and I'm not willing to jailbreak because I can't gamble with my PSN account like that. Replacing it is going to be costly.
Huh? I agree the license games I get, but Halo 3 and Halo Reach not being available is pretty surprising. I wonder what else is missing...
Anything can happen, but going by the track record of Microsoft it probably won't happen anytime soon or ever. We'll find out eventually, but in the meantime I got two questions for you...A lot of Xbox fans championing MS in here, but keep in mind: they are still supporting two distinct and separate stores at present: the Xbox 360 Marketplace and the modern MS Store, which offers XB1, Series, and backwards-compatible OG Xbox and 360 digital content all under one umbrella. At some point, I expect that the 360 Marketplace will close down, and that purchases on 360 consoles will be discontinued. All backwards-compatible content for sale will be unaffected, but for sure, a lot of stuff will disappear. So there's that. I mean, I *could* turn out to be wrong, but are they really going to support the old storefront forever...?
I think the idea is that they shouldn't be and their differences aren't due to limitations of hardware or software.PC and console are different and are treated and handled differently.
Yep, that's why I switched to mostly PC gaming.PC and console are different and are treated and handled differently.
Yes I fully agree but they were and that is why issues like this still exists. Ideally going forward this problem won't exist and things like this won't happen in the way it seems to be especially when it seems like consoles manuafactors are keeping similar architecture from generation to generation.I think the idea is that they shouldn't be and their differences aren't due to limitations of hardware or software.
Is keeping these games up as simple as having a server with the games on an HDD? I don't know about the PS3 library, but I feel like you could store all the Vita and PSP games on a couple of TBs, are they really saving that much by taking those servers down?
Just looking into this from what I can see there's tons of stuff already not available on the 360 marketplace. In the GB region, of the top thirty best selling games of all time, half of them don't seem to be purchasable. Is it different on the console itself or am I missing something? I get it with the licenced games but... Halo?
- FIFA 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
- Forza Motorsport 3, 4
- Forza Horizon
- Halo 3, Halo Reach
- Battlefield 4
- Rock Band 3
I don't see it as a problem now; if they're still allowing people to download purchased content, then they have the mechanisms in place to continue to allow people to purchase content.Yes I fully agree but they were and that is why issues like this still exists. Ideally going forward this problem won't exist and things like this won't happen in the way it seems to be especially when it seems like consoles manuafactors are keeping similar architecture from generation to generation.
Most of those have been delisted. Halo 3 and Reach were delisted just last December when 343 announced the end of support at the end of this year. All of the others were delisted due to expired licenses, except possibly for Battlefield 4...I don't see any mention of that being delisted.
My 64GB Vita memory card died last week, and I'm not willing to jailbreak because I can't gamble with my PSN account like that. Replacing it is going to be costly.
My PS3 is mostly in order with everything I want on it, since I went all digital around 2012, but I think I want to put an SSD in it for stability.
This is going to be a chore and expensive tho.
Anything can happen, but going by the track record of Microsoft it probably won't happen anytime soon or ever. We'll find out eventually, but in the meantime I got two questions for you...
- Why does it matter what Microsoft does? It's shitty when Sony does it, it's shitty when Nintendo does and it would be shitty if Microsoft does it.
- Why are you looking at speculative scenarios to defend this?
PC and console are different and are treated and handled differently.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. The E3 demo of God of War III melting eyes. I watched a Pomeranian bork in the dark near the Tokyo Jungle. All those games will be lost in time, like digital-only games on PS3. Time to die.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. The E3 demo of God of War III melting eyes. I watched a Pomeranian bork in the dark near the Tokyo Jungle. All those games will be lost in time, like digital-only games on PS3. Time to die.
I get what you mean, but GoW3 has a beautiful PS4 remaster just saying.
idk how the poster you quoted feels, but i think the only answer in this situation is that they're good as hell.So how do you feel about... alternative methods to playing said games then?
I get what you mean, but GoW3 has a beautiful PS4 remaster just saying.
My gut tells me they will. For one thing Microsoft is punching uphill at the moment. They can ill-afford something as bad as shutting off entire libraries of legacy content when they've spent the last 6-7 years rebuilding their brand. It seems whatever they can feasibly bring forward from prior gens, they will. Sony very much operates from a position of being on top. Even now, they're going to get a swell of people putting money into the coffers buying up shit before it goes offline. They'll endure the little PR black eye they're taking at the moment while counting all the cash rolling in. And you can't keep PS5 on the shelf, so this sadly will pass.This and for some reason I feel like MS will find a way to just convert or transfer the content into the newest store front
I don't get why ppl keep quoting this when he was referring to PS5 and not to old gen consoles... he ended lying on that too (see PS5 cross-gen games) but it really has nothing to do with PS3.
Is there an URL that I can use on PC to go PS3 storefront atm? My PS3 is not connected to, well, anything atm.
Thank you in advance.
Is there an URL that I can use on PC to go PS3 storefront atm? My PS3 is not connected to, well, anything atm.
Thank you in advance.
Hell, I'm still finding new NES games I never knew about. Some through the Nintendo Switch. Just because something is old doesn't mean no one wants to play it. Also I can't afford every game I'm interested in so I can't buy every thing at release.IMO, I don't mind this decision.
People believe the responsibility falls on Sony for preservation, but honestly, I think it's the developers/publishers responsibility to make their games available on new systems instead relaying on a system's to be built for them every generation.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
Is it safe to directly download games of the PSN on a modded Vita?Glad I bought an sd2vita to cache all my games. Thank goodness most of my PSP and PS3 collection are physical.
FFS...
Nothing is safe if you're going with a modded system.Is it safe to directly download games of the PSN on a modded Vita?
I really don't want to risk any of my accounts.