They still were able to do name changes on PS4, despite PS3 store still being online. Doesn't this contradict what you are suggesting? PSN would need a hard reset to fix all the stuff going on. I hope we get PSN 2.0 build from scratch eventually, but this doesn't mean they can't keep PS4/5 servers alive.Yeah, even more with the archaic infrastructure of these consoles (PS3 didn't even support the of IDs name changes, right?). Sony will eventually shut down the servers to be able to make advances on the PSN on PS5, 6 and beyond (I'm still waiting for that gifting system)
Right is a strong word, but with Sony earning billions with PS+, we as consumers deserve better and stores + games really shouldn't be shutdown. I know PS3 was free, but Sony is still the same company and earns billions with PS+ on PS4/5.There's not really a good answer to any of those questions, but I don't think we have a right to expect 'forever', it's just not practical.
Any PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP racing games affected by this worth checking out? I loved Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted (on the Vita).
Vita3k is still being worked on.This is so disappointing, especially as someone who is a late adopter (I'm" still discovering new games from the SNES/Genesis era). As a physical game collector, I'm" going to miss out on a ton of DLC content by time I decide play these games.
I really hope RPCS3 can pick up the slack and that the gaming community gets a real appetite for PS Vita emulation (not sure Vita3K is still being worked on).
Every Atlus game that's going to be lost with this, I weep for. Especially these two, Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment.
You didn't hear? Less stuff to buy from Sony means a better experience.
Absolute garbage.
Edit: If anybody has a good list of what I should buy before it's gone for good, please post it in this thread, it would be super appreciated.
you couldn't have expected they'd keep these stores up forever.
They still were able to do name changes on PS4, despite PS3 store still being online. Doesn't this contradict what you are suggesting? PSN would need a hard reset to fix all the stuff going on. I hope we get PSN 2.0 build from scratch eventually, but this doesn't mean they can't keep PS4/5 servers alive.
IMO, I don't mind this decision.
People believe the responsibility falls on Sony for preservation, but honestly, I think it's the developers/publishers responsibility to make their games available on new systems instead relaying on a system's to be built for them every generation.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
IMO, I don't mind this decision.
People believe the responsibility falls on Sony for preservation, but honestly, I think it's the developers/publishers responsibility to make their games available on new systems instead relaying on a system's to be built for them every generation.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
PC is completely different though, it's not excusing what they are doing but there are a ton of pc games that cannot be bought, GOG has done a great job of bringing some back to be bought but it's an issue with every single gaming company.Steam has been going strong for, what, 15+ years now? It seems that Sony and Nintendo are the only ones struggling to deliver a continuous shopping experience.
No but make the games playable on modern hardwareyou couldn't have expected they'd keep these stores up forever.
I've never looked into Ridge Racer outside of the meme. Might just give it a go. Thanks!
Sometimes life just happens, man. I have games in my backlog I bought a decade ago. I finally picked up some of the 3DS games I'd been wanting to buy last week. Oreshika on Vita the month before.IMO, I don't mind this decision.
People believe the responsibility falls on Sony for preservation, but honestly, I think it's the developers/publishers responsibility to make their games available on new systems instead relaying on a system's to be built for them every generation.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
I think (and I'm sure someone will correct me I'm wrong), they were separate but MS did the work to merge them at some point. There is still a seperate 360 store that technically exists but if it was to go offline we wouldn't lose access to be able to buy any of the stuff because they transferred everything over to the current universal Xbox store for sales on Xbox One/Series X/the website etc.
Assume the store app will still work it will just be empty outside of looking at the download and other stuff.
I've never looked into Ridge Racer outside of the meme. Might just give it a go. Thanks!
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
PC is completely different though, it's not excusing what they are doing but there are a ton of pc games that cannot be bought, GOG has done a great job of bringing some back to be bought but it's an issue with every single gaming company.
I will eat a ghost pepper if I am wrong.
For the first time, I simply do not see Sony winning. Sony will have their hardware sales thanks to folks like me owning PS4 and jumping to PS5, however if a hardware selling more is a merit for winning, then meh.
Weaker hardware, more expensive hardware ($30 more expensive here in Canada), more expensive games (Of the top 8 games on PS5's store front, only 2 are first party exclusives and they're all more expensive than other studio's), less exclusives (Of the top 8 games on PS5's store front, 2 are now owned by Microsoft and 1 is coming to Game Pass on day one), non-existent backwards compatibility plan, weaker cloud/subscription service, discrepancy in their QOL features, missing features from previous gen to current, and more.
Prices have gone up, service has gone down. That's a losing strategy.
I will eat two ghost peppers if I am wrong.
So you have no point? There are plenty of games that are affected on all platforms. It sucks but this isn't just a sony issue.DOS games are just DOS games. That's what happened in personal computing.
Sony had every chance not to design a system that ran on unicorns drinking RAM through a straw and they chose to do that, and then not port games to their modern systems in the intervening 10 years.
Honestly Jaw, I'd sooner expect a Dino Crisis 3, 4, 5 simetaneous announcement and Monster Hunter Rise crossover event before that happens.Thank Goodness we're keeping the downloads, that was my main worry.
Now stop being greedy Sony and have a Store shut down sale until then.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you wanted to play those games, you should have played them in the generation they came out in (PSP is 16+ years old, PS3 is 15+ years old and Vita is 10+ years). I played a ton of cool games in the PS3, Vita and PSP era but a lot I would not go back and play as they haven't aged well.
So you have no point? There are plenty of games that are affected on all platforms. It sucks but this isn't just a sony issue.
I guess younger generations shouldn't go back and experience any classics eh?
Also, I love that people always say this with games, but literally every other entertainment medium doesn't have this sentiment.
Classic films, books, and TV get consumed all the time.
Neither of these things strike me as wrong in principle, it's really just a question of how long is enough. How long should something be available to buy? For how long should it be possible to re-download something you've bought? For how long should net services be supported and maintained? There's not really a good answer to any of those questions, but I don't think we have a right to expect 'forever', it's just not practical.
You should have watched Citizen Kane in the generation it came out. That's on you, buddy.
people already tell others not to watch the movies for various other reasons thoughIf someone hasn't seen Star Wars should we tell em to not bother because it's old and they had to be there?
I saw Nosferatu when it premiered in cinemas. Sucks to be you since you weren't there to see it.
You should have watched Citizen Kane in the generation it came out. That's on you, buddy.
It is weird how it's always gamers who have such disregard for the legacy of older works and never anyone who consumes any other medium.I guess younger generations shouldn't go back and experience any classics eh?
Also, I love that people always say this with games, but literally every other entertainment medium doesn't have this sentiment.
Classic films, books, and TV get consumed all the time.
Yeah it's just a weird argument that "no one buys PS3 games, so who cares if they close the store". But if they bothered to bring that content forward, I'm sure people would be buying those games. On the Xbox side, when they started the BC program on Xbox One, 360 games starting slipping into the top 10 weekly sales lists. When older games are on Game Pass, go for super cheap in sales, get enhanced in 4K or higher frame rates... of course people will download them. And when these things see use, there's less incentive to close things down.
Some people seem to be shifting the blame for this onto consumers like its a issue out of Sony's hands, that they shouldn't be expected to keep things open. But that's entirely a problem of Sony's own making.
100% agree. Ever since Microsoft announced backwards compatibility plan, I've been seeing more and more people talk about older games that they want to play, and actually playing them.
Sony is truly arrogant here thinking that we don't play older games because they're old or outdated or bad or that we have no desire to replay them
Split Second but you can get a physical copy on the PS3 or 360Any PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP racing games affected by this worth checking out? I loved Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted (on the Vita).
You should have watched Citizen Kane in the generation it came out. That's on you, buddy.
The problem though is that many people were naive to think that these servers would only go down if Sony went out of business. They think all these digital stores will be active and their purchases available forever or as long as the company exists. So a lot of people did expect "forever" and are shocked that this is happening. They're going to be in for a shock again when the download servers go down too and I feel this is a moment where people should be learning and understanding that they should not expect those download servers to remain forever either. Right now there's a lot of relief that they are still available but it's a false sense of security and now is probably the time to understand that those are going to go away in the future too.