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Game of Thrones S8 |OT3| Best season evar. (FULL SPOILERS) (See Staff Post)
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It's crazy how we just fast forwarded weeks after Dany was assassinated and shown none of the fallout of it, i a show with huge amounts of political intrigue everything was just hunky-dory, Greyworm and Dany's soldiers didn't lose their shit, everyone just capitulated to the will of a bunch of lords after having conquered Westeros in the name of breaking the wheel.
I liked dany as the villain. Though i wish we had at least one more season before this to get there
Still not quite as weird as the several posts on this board cheering her on as she was in the middle of scorching everyone in King's Landing.
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I assume the 3rd wtf moment has to do with Dany, but don't know what it is. Her burning KL, she dying or she beying killed by Jon.
Her vision in the house of undying tells me that as soon as she almost touched the throne (implying she will never ge the throne) she turns back and reunites with Drogo and her baby, implying that as soon as she turned her back on the throne, she dies, which is that happened in the episode too.
The show made it so plainly obvious that it was the case when Castle Black had zero members of the Nights Watch and instead was occupied by wildlings. I'm surprised people are not seeing this.
The show doesn't have to use dialogue to make points you know.
Could be that Dany is killed by Jon, and then he goes on to beat the WWs with his flaming sword.
It would fit with GRRM's scouring of the shire, where Dany is Sauron and the Others/NK or whatever is Saruman.
Jon gives up the throne to go and save the world. Tyrion and co have to elect a new king.
It felt like the exact opposite of something GRRM would do.
Dany getting killed should've been an episode ending with the entire next episode covering the reaction.
Keep fighting the good fight. I've given up on trying to explain to people why this season sucks so fucking much
The only person that stupid oft quoted Ramsay line even applied to was Dany 😆
Bittersweet my ass. They spent this whole season knocking her down piece by piece, so that they could end it with just her being the loser. Hell they even skipped a few weeks forward so that they wouldn't have to deal with the real possibility of what the Unsullied would do. All her advisors were made stupid while she was alive, and then they made all her allies and loyalists equally stupid after she died. Dragon should have eaten Jon, and no being a Targaryen would not save him from being killed by him. The other dipshit Aegon forced his dragon to eat his sister at the end of the Dance of Dragons.
from the moment people said Dany was "obviously" going to go mad/crazy i have been directly comparing her to Arya and asking how they would feel about a sudden MaD AsSasSiN
its such BS
It was one of the main reason Dany turned mad and burned King's landing. The show definitely showed her viewing Jon as a threat and drove a wedge between them.
The time jump was precisely because there would have been no way to believably depict Tyrion and Jon being allowed to live after Grey Worm found out what happened. So they just skipped over it instead.
Im more into Jon making a pact with the WWs instead of destroying them.
Where did the decision to only have 6 episodes (even if longer than usual) come from? Budget restraints? Directors choice? 6 is a cool number because of reasons? This season could have easily used 2-3 more episodes let things sink in and progress at a better rhythm.
Good thing the show makes it clear there are shades of grey and very few people are just "good" or "evil".
More pure nonsense from this season...
I haven't had a chance to post since seeing the finale, and I'm sure everything has been covered to death and back, but I just want to say that I'm really glad I read the full spoilers weeks ago after viewing Episode 4. Going in with some expectation that the show would somehow redeem itself in the finale would have left me so disappointed I probably wouldn't have been able to sleep last night.
Forgot about Drogon, a fucking dragon, suddenly forming a conscience and exposition in torching the Iron Throne.
Fuck. Me.
Fuck. Me.
Is Arya a queen though? Is she invading a country demanding that everyone bend to her rule? Do people act like she's all good?
These memes where Dany fans pit one character against her to make her look better are ridiculously tiresome.
Post two vague situations: wHY dAnY bAD BuT x GuD?!
And I love the use of "Walder Frey's children" as if Black Walder and his brothers weren't adults.
Literally stating it that way to make it worse(as if butchering them wasn't bad enough).
According to r/gameofthrones, apparently GRRM responded to this blog post from 2013 with "This guy gets it" regarding Dany:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/bo1ast/spoilers_found_on_twitter_apparently_grrm/
Great content.
Okay so here's a specific example of how poorly executed this show's become right to the end.
Jon being exiled to the North is a happy ending for the boy, but they did literally nothing to communicate that to us. I mean, it's clearly good for Jon: the guy who doesn't want to rule, has always felt a great burden in protecting the world from unspeakable dangers, is never at peace, literally told Tormund two episodes ago "I wish I could hang out with ya'll but my duty is down in King's Landing now" and yet, there's been a heap of confusion about Jon's departure and people feeling like he got the raw end of the stick.
This is supposed to be a moment of relief for Jon. The weight of the world is off his shoulders and he's free to live a simple and wholesome life from here on out, but all the visual language of the sequence suggested otherwise. It looked like "oh here we fucking go again, trapped on this miserable pile again" when it should have been a moment of elation for him. The warmth in his eyes should have returned (I don't think he smiled once besides when he reunited with the direwolf), his shoulders should have lifted, and most importantly: when they go past the wall, don't end on some fucking bland shot of him strolling into the woods. What the hell is that? End with him chilling on top of a serene mountain with Tormund and the gang, looking content or at least relieved.
Even earlier on Tyrion's giving him (what he thinks is) the bad news, but Jon would spring to life and immediately recognise how good of an opportunity this is. "That's the worst they could throw at me?" It's relatively minor, but it's indicative of the way this whole season (and back) have been going about doing things.
Jon being exiled to the North is a happy ending for the boy, but they did literally nothing to communicate that to us. I mean, it's clearly good for Jon: the guy who doesn't want to rule, has always felt a great burden in protecting the world from unspeakable dangers, is never at peace, literally told Tormund two episodes ago "I wish I could hang out with ya'll but my duty is down in King's Landing now" and yet, there's been a heap of confusion about Jon's departure and people feeling like he got the raw end of the stick.
This is supposed to be a moment of relief for Jon. The weight of the world is off his shoulders and he's free to live a simple and wholesome life from here on out, but all the visual language of the sequence suggested otherwise. It looked like "oh here we fucking go again, trapped on this miserable pile again" when it should have been a moment of elation for him. The warmth in his eyes should have returned (I don't think he smiled once besides when he reunited with the direwolf), his shoulders should have lifted, and most importantly: when they go past the wall, don't end on some fucking bland shot of him strolling into the woods. What the hell is that? End with him chilling on top of a serene mountain with Tormund and the gang, looking content or at least relieved.
Even earlier on Tyrion's giving him (what he thinks is) the bad news, but Jon would spring to life and immediately recognise how good of an opportunity this is. "That's the worst they could throw at me?" It's relatively minor, but it's indicative of the way this whole season (and back) have been going about doing things.
Good thing you missed the point which is framing Dany as some unhinged psycho before episode 5 was silly.
You can imagine them writing that and thinking 'those fucking morons will love this shit!!'Forgot about Drogon, a fucking dragon, suddenly forming a conscience and exposition in torching the Iron Throne.
Fuck. Me.
How was it cheap? Jaime didn't deserve redemption (and neither did Theon) he was an attempted child murderer and rapist. They were always toxic together and died together. The newly knighted Brienne writing his fate down on the book was rather sad and presumely then becoming the honorable lord commander he often failed to be.
Why would Jon be south during Dany and Aegon's war for the throne? I'm saying that KL burns down during that fight, and then Dany goes north to help fight the WW.
Seriously, like you mean to tell me Greyworm, who was just as bloodthirsty as Dany would capitulate to the will of a bunch of Lords? That he wouldn't have just killed Tyrion and Jon? That the unsullied wouldn't? How did the ruling council of Lords even come to be in the power vacuum that was left? The unsullied and Dany's soldiers didn't follow any of those people, they had no reason to listen to them. Greyworm had no reason to listen to them, and as the commander of the armies he had all the power.
And, if that's the case, why exile Jon? Clearly Greyworm had no power, they could have told him to fuck off.
I'm going to be so bold as to say for this to be sexist, it requires malicious intent - a sexist objective. I don't think a character doing what Daenarys did can be considered sexist. If what happened is born from sexist ideas, like "lol, she's on her period", then that's sexist. Not allowing Daenarys to have a arc where she turns mad isn't what we should fight for. We've had tons of strong female characters with both masculine and feminine traits throughout the show. While the setting is based on a 'sexist' setting, like men being the rightful heir, the show does a good job of exploring those ideas.
It's just firing off a shot at sexism where one doesn't belong to say this is a sexist narrative. The implication is that this is what the Targaryans do. The implication is that Daenarys convinced herself that she was right. She was mad in her own way, where you couldn't convince her she wasn't mad. It's a great arc of the justifications people do for the behavior they hate in themselves. That's about being human. Not about being a woman. And as such, I can't see how it is sexist.
I suspect it will happen in the books too. One way or another, the Iron Throne will be melted down and the most likely way will dragon fire.Forgot about Drogon, a fucking dragon, suddenly forming a conscience and exposition in torching the Iron Throne.
Fuck. Me.
Seriously, fuck Arya. I hate her character so fucking much.
Everything about her is so one dimensional "Im a badass" bullshit. She gets zero consequences for anything, and walks away from everything completely unscathed.
The Unsullied who faced death in the face and did not flinch, would suddenly give two shits what happens if they execute the man who murdered their queen? It's fucking ridiculous and asinine.
I mean, for him. Having the legitimate right to sit in the throne and got nothing than a horse and his dog back.
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It's sexist because it:
1. involves a woman
2. didn't go exactly the way I wanted.
Do you not recall the first five years of her journey? Let's not mistake what she became with what she was, or her journey toward it.
She had one of the best arch's on the show
I mentally checked out when Jon didn't get his 1v1 against the NK I think. That was his fight, its what he obsessed about all those seasons, what he fought for, why he tried to unite everyone over.
That was his story. "None of this throne shit matters you idiots." etc then he doesn't even get to do anything.
All my disappointment still stems back to that battle I think, they really should have done the Westeros stuff first, burn the throne to the ground then gone and faced the WW to end the show. And in that BATTLE OF ALL MANKIND all the houses and lands are left so decimated they have no choice but rebuild the world and rebuild how it is governed *roll credits*.
That was his story. "None of this throne shit matters you idiots." etc then he doesn't even get to do anything.
All my disappointment still stems back to that battle I think, they really should have done the Westeros stuff first, burn the throne to the ground then gone and faced the WW to end the show. And in that BATTLE OF ALL MANKIND all the houses and lands are left so decimated they have no choice but rebuild the world and rebuild how it is governed *roll credits*.
Nah those seasons didn't exist. Arya was a badass from day 1, no consequences for her actions, nothing. She was too cool for any of that.
/s
that would not work with the expectations subverted motto
I think what alot of people are forgetting when it comes to comparing Dany to Arya is that Arya has been saying she was going to kill the people she has killed for several seasons. She has rarely killed anyone outside of her list. Dany meanwhile has basically killed just anyone and everyone who gets in her way. Thats not the same thing.
Also book readers have the benefit of knowing that Mad Queen Dany was always a distinct possibility. So I feel like that is another thing that Dany has going against her. Alot of people knew it was coming and therefore are more willing to defend the move.
Basically, yes. That's all it amounted to.
But to be fair... Did we want to see him on the throne? I mean, I would have liked to hear people at least discuss it... But I can't say I would have liked it very much if the show decided to make him king.
I was surprised how unenthusiastic Jon was to see Tormund. Everyone wanted the dog petting but where was the Tormund hug?
They rehabilitated male characters who were villainess pieces of shit, and they turned female characters who weren't into child murdering psychopaths (Ellaria is a complete 180 to what her character is in the books). There's nothing in this show that would indicate prior to episode 5 that Dany would actually wholesale slaughter civilians after winning a battle. Soldiers, lords, sure. Small folk civilians? No fucking way. As I said earlier, this is the second time in the lore where a Targ Queen is about to ascend, and an Aegon sweeps it from under her. The first time resulted in sexist laws being implemented and the woman was blamed for the whole affair.