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Xbox Series X: What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming (12TF, RDNA2 & Zen 2, Hardware Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading) OFFICIAL SPECS
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Hm, you really think they would go over $500? Also, long time no see, Fixalas! :)
The thing is.. we will have to see how Sony plays this reveal. If they dont talk specs and just show games at the start, then theres a gulf in specs. But no legitimate rumor has ever said that, Jason even saying specs are close.
Now Sony got what they wanted.. some hard numbers from MS. RDNA2, 12Tflops etc.. interesting to see in what way PS5 is announced and what they tell us.
Btw, does MS say how much ram Series X has? Or what type? Did I miss that in the text somewhere?
Well it is a Zen 2 APU and they go up to 8 cores. Could be less but I don't think they'll go backwards from Jaguar and break BC.
imo: yes, the console hardware is a lot more optimized for games. 12 teraflops is near 2080 cards
499$ : All digital Edition, no BR Player, 1TB SSD
599$ : With Disc Drive, BR player, 2 TB SSD
I think this might be reading too much into it. I really doubt they can just boost game's resolution without any work involved, or without any potential issues. I think he's referring to games with Dynamic Res being maxed out and games running in X Enhanced profiles by default. I'd love to be wrong tho.
umm what?
the 5700xt is 9.6 tflops and is on par with the 2070.
12 tflops will be on par with the 2080. with this being a rdna 2.0 card which should be better than the rdna 1.0 5700xt, we are likely looking at 2080 super.
DLSS massively increases performance though, it can be used with a 2060 and consoles target 4K. It's fine for 1080p.
Also in the day and age of low level APIs that optimization argument doesn't hold true anymore.
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Yea I think so, it's still not $600, audience won't be as harsh.
I think gamepass, smart delivery, and all this tech makes me think they can't lose much on hardware
I thought of that but I dunno for me the writing implies a bit more.
I hope they talk about it soon. It's my single most hyped feature they could deliver.
If Lockhart wasn't supposedly still floating around, I could definitely see that. I just don't think MS is going to be releasing 3 different SKUs at launch. (At least not immediately)
Depends on the definition of close. Would within 20% be considered close? Closer than any disparity we have ever seen pretty much, but it would be 10 vs 12 tflops.
Yeah but its also an Nvidia GPU. Nvidia FLOPS != AMD FLOPS.
Nvidia has much better silicon and better made chips or something..
Yeah there's no way they get that thing down to $500 unless they're willing to take a significant loss. Especially since they're probably hitting all the same supply constraints around the SSDs and memory that Sony is, too. Maybe they think Gamepass is a reliable enough subsidy now that they can take a $100+ loss and be caught up on it within a year or two? Or maybe they think they can get away with $600 so long as Lockhart is around to capture more price-sensitive buyers? No idea, but they've definitely gone all out.
Phil has made it clear that they won't make the same mistakes as last gen (ie. higher price, later release date, less powerful hardware). They have the cash on hand. I personally believe they'll take the hit on the hardware. They will wait for Sony to announce their price and then match it, even if they end up taking a $100 hit per console.
Is this thread really just ignoring the fact that the AMD Vega 64 is capable of 12.6 tflops , whereas a 1080Ti is only 11.5 tflops and blows the VEGA away? Or is everyone just blindly buying into marketing speak?
$499. I think MS is going to be willing to eat some losses to have good sales numbers and keep hype going. They need a win.
What I'm more curious about is PS5 pricing and power to see how it compares.
It really feels MS is really confident on this machine. Full specs + final design already to show.
Quite the contrast with Sony.
Quite the contrast with Sony.
Very impressive specs, sounds very expensive though. Cannot see this thing being any less than $549.
VEGA is based on GCN though. GCN is significantly older and less efficient per flop than RDNA2.
on a GTX 1080Ti (11 TF, Pascal) in 2018, and far from optimized.
Can't wait to play Cyberpunk on Xbox Series X.
Yup, checks out as a MS Era thread alright. Glad that we can get real confirmation that this thing is gonna blow us away. Still gonna assume were looking at $499.99, since MS is wanting to bleed our wallets off of services instead of HW.
Well then, sounds like it's best to buy the discounter Xbox One version after a year with full post launch patches.
As someone not in the know, can you elaborate? Are they marginally worse? Much worse? Better?
Who knows? Also why is that yikes lol. Anyway one telling thing to me is that Phil said this was the most powerful Xbox ever not the most powerful console which to me means they either don't know PS5 specs or the PS5 is more powerful (Which some people have said it is, if true or not, who knows)
on a GTX 1080 Ti (11~12 TF) in 2018, and far from optimized.
Can't wait to play Cyberpunk on Xbox Series X.
Delayed to September......
What if Microsoft goes early and launches Series X in September with CP2077, Forza Motorsport 8 and Halo Infinite as launch titles?
It was more true with GCN based GPUs.
Navi and Turing are closer in efficiency
If they figured out a way to 4x the pixel counts in every XB1 game, they would say that loudly and repeated nonstop during the reveal, not here
The ball is most definitely in Sony's court ATM and I can virtually hear them furiously positioning in response to all this. Coupled with their ongoing silence and purported cost struggles, they are seemingly not having it as easy as last time around. I can't wait for both reveals.
Well, on PC the 2070 is comparable to the 5700 XT. That's 7tflops vs 9.7Tf
The new architecture can be 'closer' but not extremely close or the same.. was my point.
I mean Xbox 360 already had 2 SKUs..no reason why they wont give this option even with Lockhart.
This way, they can atleast save 20-30$ per console.
Even at 599$, they would be taking a 100$ hit..dont see how they price at 499$ keeping all bells and whistles.
All digital edition with 50% less storage space? Doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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