Vulture: Disney now with a whole slate of classic Fox films, is slowly just putting them in the Disney vault as they slowly stop theater screenings
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Yes, so that we can tell some of the best filmmakers in history what ART actually is.
Not all of them, methinks. Blue Sky, Anastasia, Home Alone, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Avatar, etc will go to Disney+. Aliens, Die Hard, Predator, 28 Weeks Later, Fly etc will go to Hulu.
The most important question though is where will Planet of The Apes go? And will I get a PoTA TV show about Bad Ape? And a sequel trilogy helmed by Matt Reeves?
Well, I'm glad I caught Alien on the big screen . . .
Seriously, if a theater wants to put on a special showing of a film, Disney should let them.
Seriously, if a theater wants to put on a special showing of a film, Disney should let them.
Yes-ish.
I think they just wanted content to add to their streaming service and prevent anyone else from getting it. There seems to be a lot of behind the scenes conflict going on that makes me think they didn't have an in depth plan for most of Fox's stuff, just the stuff that fit best with their brands (Marvel/Nat Geo) or is huge enough they needed to find something to do with it (Simpsons). They'll dig deeper in the coming years but I don't get the sense they fully looked at how to integrate in anything other than broad strokes.
If they do make more POTA films, I think it'll pop onto + for more visibility. I don't think they're significantly more violent than POTC or Star Wars/Marvel films are, and genre wise they fit Disney branding ok.
Because it still fills theaters regularly as opposed to one time screenings ever few years.
They're just movies, man. You can watch them at home. Especially now when the internet records and offers everything that ever existed in media. It just doesn't really matter. A lot of you are acting like they're enslaving populations and murdering children. It's just entertainment.
Stupid, if I go to the cinema to watch some old film it is because I want the cinema experience. Offering it streaming isn't gonna make me sub instead, chances are I own the film on DVD or Blu Ray already anyway for home viewing.
Seeing a film in the format it was intended to be seen is a treat. Some of my favorite experiences in theaters is going to a packed showing of stuff like The Exorcist and Alien near Halloween or seeing The Lord of The Rings in a theater again. Not to mention stuff I wasn't even around to see like Lawrence of Arabia and The Godfather when they first ran in theaters. It has always been a great experience put on by staff who want to keep the appreciation for these older films going. Even on my 70inch 4k UHD TV I can't get the majestic feeling the theater provides.
It's funny that MCU stans want this so badly, as if any of those films would ever be as good as Logan.
Disney's empire needs to be broken up.
Again, beyond message board shitslinging.
Are people actually going to try to do something about this? Call their representatives to do something about media monopolization? Vote for people like Sanders and Warren that have explicitly said they want to break up conglomerates like Disney? Or is every thread about this topic going to have the same dumb ass posts where the same keyboard warriors can repeat the same dumb ass point about the X-Men?
Same. I love watching films at home, but seeing them on the big screen is still something special.
it's not an excuse but why are you trying to single out Disney? Oh I know why, it fits your narrative.
They had a clear plan when buying Fox. It was all about making sure these films, TV shows, and IP would be exclusive to Disney+ and Hulu. Disney wants to enter the streaming wars with the biggest push ever seen. The theater stuff and closing down two Fox studios are the sacrifices Disney is willing to take to ensure the Fox purchase reaches profitability as quick as possible.
Nah this has absolutely zero to do with streaming. This stuff with the theatres is something Disney has been doing with their movies for a long time, now it just extends to everything from Fox.
because it's a thread about Disney
would be a little weird shitting on Exxon-Mobil as a terrible company in this Disney thread
Future Apes movies were confirmed by Emma Watts earlier this year IIRC.
I heard they sacrifice babies every Sunday. They then bury them where Walt is buried in PoTC ride at Disneyland. Heard they started doing something similar at WDW, but I can't confirm.
maybe Disney should stop acting shitty since lol it doesn't matter who cares?
I think most of us talking about it are voting for sanders or warren. The point of posting here is to try to get people to understand WHY disney is wrong here. It won't make a difference I understand that, but I've seen some normally intelligent people on this very message board say disney is clean they've done nothing wrong.
Speaking to the message board shitslinging my point wasn't about just message boards. The brand loyalty speaks volumes about the sheer amount of people who either don't give a shit or come rapidly to defend disney at every turn. The point is they've built up an unbelievable following which isn't just looking the other way, it's actively doing PR for them. This is the voting public, the vast majority of people feel this way about disney it seems.
It is? I just cant really make any sense of it from a business point of view. The article itself is what mentioned the disney+ bit. The other theory of just holding more screens for new movies doesnt really make much sense either though, as that only translates to more sales if you're already selling every seat of every showing.
Truth. Same goes for Terminator 1 and 2. And Die Hard 1 and 3. And Logan. And so on and so forth.
The Terminator rights are tricky, but i don't think Disney owns it, yet...
Did you miss the quotes from rep theater people saying without Fox movies they'd have to close?
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Terminator 2 is owned by Studio Canal, which owns Carolco's library.
The article specifically calls out "for profit theaters". I live in Columbus, we have a nonprofit theater. Are they able to still play old FOX movies?
Between this and your boycott thread, you're on a roll with putting words in people's mouths. Ain't much this part of your post will do but rile people up.
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Yes
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...ill-disney-let-theaters-screen-old-fox-movies
Disney has just always been extremely controlling of their IPs.
Fair enough, I still cant see any way that does anything but lose them money and I dont really understand the goal.
they all will eventually. that's how the streaming business will work.
It'll all be worth it to have yellow suited Wolverine ask, "What, were you expecting black leather?"
Immediate tears.
The new films will be enjoyed by millions around the world while this issue affects a handful of people. In the hypothetical scenario you described I'd say that the trade off is absolutely worth it.