The state SoS is on CNN saying that there will be in-person voting on June 2. Says this doesn't violate the judge's action because the health secretary has magic powers.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT4| Disaster Voltron
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OH Biden +4 poll comes in: "Oh, just one poll, no way he's winning there, outlier, etc."
Morning Consult Trump COVID-19 approval +4 comes in: "I knew it, Trump always wins."
These last four years have done a number on y'all.
Morning Consult Trump COVID-19 approval +4 comes in: "I knew it, Trump always wins."
These last four years have done a number on y'all.
Federal elections can only be moved by Congress. We control the House.
If you want to get all panicky HE'LL DO IT ANYWAY, I've done some number crunching:
-Every Hillary state except MA, VT, MD, and NH has a Democratic governor; all those states have a supermajority Democratic legislature.
-North Carolina has a Democratic governor whose vetoes can't be overridden.
-We have Whitmer, Evers, and Wolf in MI, WI, and PA, respectively.
In other words, the states that would agree to it without an act of Congress have fewer than 270 electoral votes. So basically, who cares if Alabama moves its election to the 12th of never?
This scenario won't play out.
You're telling me! And as I said before, people only pick the B- and C-tier pollsters to obsess over.
Have some standards.
It's just the principle of the thing. It boggles the mind that anyone can approve of how he's handling the pandemic when he's at best done absolutely nothing and at worst exacerbated the problem more at every opportunity. I cannot get into the space of someone who watches his Oval Office address or his Rose Garden bullshit and thinks, yes, I approve.
Not to mention we're still early in the outbreak and the approval situation is going to be fluid.
It's kind of like a mirror of 2016. Then people handwaved away any indication that Trump had a chance. Now the positive signs for Trump are the only things people pay attention to.
We can at least agree that a swing state R governor testing out mysterious new powers no one ever previously knew they had to stop an election a few hours before it starts is more than a tad concerning, right?
Neat. Like, no, seriously, that's actually pretty awesome.
I'm going to take the time to enjoy this moment where two of my great interests, PoliERA and MST3K alums, meet for a brief moment.
Yeah you know the pubs with drive up counters that let you take your beer to go?
There are drive-thru liquor stores, but I know what you mean.
Don't wanna be wished into the cornfield. Besides, "Identity" can change, "You" don't!
I took a dialog/speech test online one time and it tried to determine your accent based upon the phrases you used and how you pronounced certain words. One of the questions was "What is a drive-thru liquor store called?" And my answer was "There is no word for this/no such thing."
Next you're going to tell me you don't know what a bubbler is!
(I remember that quiz. lol)
These fools just can't take a hint. He's in it until the end, no matter how badly he gets destroyed.
I'm afraid that due to chaos tomorrow Bernie may sneak out some wins/close losses and then we're really in the shit.
The only result of Bernie staying in is hurting Biden in a GE. If he stays in past tomorrow...jesus.
So it's already double since Trump said, "it was only 40" last Friday.
Sounds like we may get start having resignations of conscience.
"1000s of people may have died but I only lost by 15%. I would have won too if it wasn't for the meddling ESTABLISHMENT!"
God, this Ohio thing is the dumbest shit ever. Dewine is a fucking moron.
So, from what I can piece together: Since the judge decided he couldn't move the election like he wanted to, he simply had the state health's director order the polls not be open. However, that in no way cancels or moves the election. So, technically, the election is still on even if the polls aren't open. Then, at some point, they're going to go to the courts and demand that everyone who wants to vote, but hasn't, gets to.....somehow. Then you have GOP State Reps who are fucking livid because ... this is clearly not Constitutional:
And there are down ballot stuff everywhere tomorrow, including levies and shit. Absolutely ridiculous.
So, from what I can piece together: Since the judge decided he couldn't move the election like he wanted to, he simply had the state health's director order the polls not be open. However, that in no way cancels or moves the election. So, technically, the election is still on even if the polls aren't open. Then, at some point, they're going to go to the courts and demand that everyone who wants to vote, but hasn't, gets to.....somehow. Then you have GOP State Reps who are fucking livid because ... this is clearly not Constitutional:
And there are down ballot stuff everywhere tomorrow, including levies and shit. Absolutely ridiculous.
So, Ohio SoS issued a directive to all the board of elections:
I guess they're using the Medical Director to get around the judge's order (which is actually fine because the judge just didn't want to do it on his own, he had no qualms with them using their authority to do so) and basically moving it to June.
God. What a stupid mess.
I guess they're using the Medical Director to get around the judge's order (which is actually fine because the judge just didn't want to do it on his own, he had no qualms with them using their authority to do so) and basically moving it to June.
God. What a stupid mess.
People still going to show up do to the very poor timing of all of this .
Think of the goodwill that Bernie could do by dropping out for the health of the country. Which is why we will see Bernie stay in all the way until the convention.
Seems like a legitimate reason to use the emergency alert notification system within Ohio first thing in the morning advising people that voting was postponed and all polls are closed.
That's what annoys me the most. Like, in the directive the SoS issued, they're actually going to let people request absentee ballots between now and the end of May. They're not making it harder, in all honesty, to vote. I don't see malice as much as fucking incompetence.
If they wanted to do this, and I am sympathetic to them doing it, they had days to do this. Dewine has been on the TV six ways to Sunday. They could have announced this Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Doing it late in the day on Monday is absurd.
Eh. I mean, fucking with our primary doesn't help him at all. And, honestly, Dewine has been really good the last few weeks handling COVID. I think his rationale makes total sense here...it's the implementation that's horrible. We also cannot get enough poll workers because older folks have no desire to be out right now, and I don't blame them. There are also down ballot things that affect both Dems and GOP. I just think it's poor strategy more than malfeasance.
It's this. Incompetence over malice.
I've said it already and I'll say it again. DeWine is, as a Republican, an asshole. But he's been doing damned good until today.
This situation strikes me as something where the intentions are actually in good faith, but they waited too long to act and are now trying like hell to will the situation into being and it's sending terribly mixed messages. Still, I'll be at my polling situation as soon as "work" ends tomorrow.
Yeah I also dont want anyone to go out and vote at all right now as well. The fact is he had plenty of time to do this right he did not he did it in the worse way possible thats going to cause him and many people major issues
Makes sense, Donald Trump ran on a platform of failed casinos
If this gets much worse, it's entirely possible that mail will be suspended. Carriers are human too, after all.
I'd say airlines and small business owners(restaurants and bars) are the only industries I believe to be critical and large enough to deserve targeted bailout funds. Everyone else I think will be fine.
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