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US PoliEra 2019 |OT10| Go Absent Yourself
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I distinctly hear an F sound. I'm calling it a slip of the tongue then.
I get that Trump only likes the white Tic-Tacs, but you'd think he'd be into the orange ones as well. Hmph.
After the first sentence I thought it was heading in the direction that orange tic taks were responsible for his skin color. lol.
He loves and hates orange, as he loves and hates himself.
I actually really liked Beto's healthcare plan a lot. It's a damn solid plan that is probably one of the best we could pass out of a Dem trifecta.
Honest question: Could a Democratic controlled house and Senate change these terms to less than lifetime to kind of course correct this bullshit?
Well, we know that it's not carrots that are responsible for his skin color because I doubt that dude eats vegetables.
This seems like the proper psychoanalytic approach.
That's what a minority in America wanted, so that's what we all have for the next 30-40 years. That's democracy. Sort of.
The reaction is a bit baffling imo.
Kerry has never exactly been anywhere in the same political or ideological zipcode as Bernie.
Who gives a shit who he endorses.
The only 3 things that I need Biden to say against Trump at the debate stage are:
*The whole world is laughing at you, you have made a joke out of the office of the presidency.
*The American voters know that I am going to beat you like a DRUM!
*Anytime Trump says anything "You are a damn liar!"
*The whole world is laughing at you, you have made a joke out of the office of the presidency.
*The American voters know that I am going to beat you like a DRUM!
*Anytime Trump says anything "You are a damn liar!"
I want polls to be done where Medicare for All is properly explained to people
as opposed to
1. Do you support Medicare For All?
2. Do you know that Medicare for All takes away your private insurance? Do you still support it?
To instead be
1. Do you support Medicare For All?
2. What do you like about your private insurance? Do you know that Medicare For All lets you keep that? Do you still support it?
The first framing makes you feel like a victim where M4A takes something away that you like. Those are terrible questions.
God damn this Biden would absolutely demolish trump at the polls. He's just not as sharp as in his prime, but if he's the nominee I'm hoping he can bring that confidence and fire.
I mean, I don't blame him at all. It's made up bullshit.
We'd need either a constitutional amendment or a packed supreme court willing to radically reinterpret article3 and "shall hold their offices during good behavior" or however the constitutional phrasing goes.
I hope Steyer and Bloomberg use their war chests for the general election nominee and mute out the RNC and Trump with ads.
2nd question is not accurate but under M4A it's not guaranteed that you will get the same doctor.
So if your voter's response is "my favorite thing about my insurance is that I can go to my favorite doctors and nurses" and then they find out that their doctors don't take Medicare...
Though in a single payer system things would be so dramatically different that it's hard to say. But its still disegenous to claim that you would be able to keep the same doctor under Medicare. Even though most would under single payer, it's not guaranteed.
The issue with all of this is simply lose aversion. I don't like my current insurance (not me specifically but a general "I") but I would take my private insurance over other ones due to X reasons. I can't trust 100% that a government run insurance system will be better than my current one.
So if your voter's response is "my favorite thing about my insurance is that I can go to my favorite doctors and nurses" and then they find out that their doctors don't take Medicare...
Though in a single payer system things would be so dramatically different that it's hard to say. But its still disegenous to claim that you would be able to keep the same doctor under Medicare. Even though most would under single payer, it's not guaranteed.
The issue with all of this is simply lose aversion. I don't like my current insurance (not me specifically but a general "I") but I would take my private insurance over other ones due to X reasons. I can't trust 100% that a government run insurance system will be better than my current one.
probably not, but expanding the courts substantially should mitigate the issue.
Honestly, a lot of people in this country would probably find that appealing. Hell, calling Trump's lies bullshit during the debates would probably peel Republican voters away from Trump since he'd be "telling it like it is."
You can't be nice/diplomatic with trump. It won't win anyone over. And trump doesn't speak that language.
Hmm, looking at an article from the Washington Post, healthcare approach seems like THE defining issue.
Warren getting associated with the elimination of private healthcare and not Sanders is... Interesting. The 50% of Sanders's supporters that clearly don't understand the basics of his Medicare for All proposal is... Interesting.
The full article is below. My take away is that the Democratic electorate doesn't really care about what they say they care about, and that they just want an old white man to sweep up the Trump mess.
"Get your words straight, JACK!"
"Let's do push-ups..."
*applause ensues*
The hell is happening? All I know is that if Biden makes it out of the primary, this shit better still work in the general lmao
"Let's do push-ups..."
*applause ensues*
The hell is happening? All I know is that if Biden makes it out of the primary, this shit better still work in the general lmao
I definitely heard "Look, fat-". Joe forgot he wasn't on the schoolyard for a sec lol.
I agree, there's no point in going to civility route with trump.
Obviously don't stoop to his level, but call out bullshit when you see it.
LMAO that would have been wild.
I do tend to think Biden would humiliate Trump in debate, not that debates matter. I just want him to completely ether Trump like he did Paul Ryan.
This is the problem. As he gets frustrated or agitated, he bumbles his words as he struggles to limit his stutter.
*Sigh*
helllllllll yeeeeaaahhhhh
We've done it, we've found the Boomer/Rick and Morty fanbase crossover we were looking for!
We'll see, he is less sharp compared to even a few years ago, but with some luck I think he can keep it together and speak clearly/confidently. His stutter is a bit more prominent these days.
Yes. That was gold. I fear 2012 Biden was peak Biden though.
Was Nancy "unhinged" when she shot back at that reporter this morning over that "Are you impeaching Trump because you hate him" question? No. Bullshit like that
should be clapped back on.
If Biden gets the nom, he'll challenge Trump to a pushup challenge on stage, bet.
and Trump will accept
I mean, the Speaker of the House was talking pay-as-you-go just recently, so I think it's just a thing that Democratic politicians say to voters who are really worried about spending money on blacks, browns, single mothers, etc., but who phrase it as "OH NOEZ, THE NATIONAL DEBT."
And I think Buttigieg is a total piece of shit and refuse to vote for him for POTUS (I live in WA, not FL or some other purple state, thank God, or I would), so that's not me letting off a favorite lightly.
Biden: "And another thing folks, the secret to the Krabby Patty formula is-"
Maddow: "Time."
Biden: (...)
If it's single payer system, which is what medicare for all is, then you do get to keep your doctors unless they move (which can happen regardless), retired (happened to me), etc.... Everyone accepts medicare in that system because they have to as no other can legally compete with it. And as it stands now, your private insurance plan can change due to your employer.
Whatever your private insurance provides, single payer system can provide in what it can control.
The problem with the polls is that they don't properly explain these things so the framing is terrible to gauge what people really want. It attempts to simply everything without properly explaining what the plan is. So if the question is just "you lose your private insurance", while still correct, it doesn't seek to properly find out what people actually think of it.
Absolutely not! It was a great response from Nancy is the difference here. She didn't challenge a dummy to a push-up contest or an IQ test. Biden looks insane to me.
I know all of this and I am a proponent for single player (eventually, not as soon as possible) or a systen where Medicare is the primary means of health care and private insurance is supplementary. The progressives don't have to make the case to me, they have to make the case for the electorates. They have to sell it like Trump sells *checks notes* wall on the border.
I doubt it. Dude was to afraid to throw a pitch at the World Series.
That VP debate was really cathartic because Ryan had been treated like a wonderboy for years by the media and then he just got clowned like the clown he is.
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