Then why isn't not going to war with Iran the right answer now?
Two hours ago he was saying Kurdistan and another base were also #confirmed to be struck with missles.Here's the link. I have no idea how to insert the twitter link.
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Both Americans and Iraqis have no deaths. All missiles missed the target or shot down by air defense missile.
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Then why isn't not going to war with Iran the right answer now?
I'd like to know who put the seed into Trump's brain to order the assassination to trigger this in the first place.
Absolutely no way he conjured this up himself.
Lots of reports cited here and elsewhere from correspondents in the middle east stating no American casualties. Seems reasonable to assume that sending dozens of cruise missiles against static troop positions without incurring a single death is a relatively non-aggressive act of face saving on the the side of the Iran. I'd put money on this being the end of the conflict.
No one knows how Trump will react obviously, but retired military figures (like Petraeus- interesting inteview here: Foreign Policy interview with Petraeus) are painting this as an unequivocal win, so it's not unreasonable to assume that's the advice he'll be given by his generals. The appearance of victory seems to be the guy's primary motivation in life.
so did iran basically attack specific places where they knew there would likely be no casualties? seems like this might of been a bit of chest thumping by iran while not directly trying to start a war. don't like that they want to play chicken with a psycho in the white house.
Im talking about cowardice in the context of Trump as a person, which would clearly serve the world better in this case, as opposed to the other impulse i mentioned. I was clearly not talking about America and how they should act. Deescalation is obviously the best case here, and Trumps cowardice might be helpful here for a change.I think we need to stop framing descalation as cowardice. Even if we think it might be. It's not good to imply not bombing the shit out of another country is cowardly.
I never said it was the right answer to go to war. I said Biden was being smart by not putting out a blanket statement before having all the facts.Then why isn't not going to war with Iran the right answer now?
Let's see how Trump fucks this up.Lots of reports cited here and elsewhere from correspondents in the middle east stating no American casualties. Seems reasonable to assume that sending dozens of cruise missiles against static troop positions without incurring a single death is a relatively non-aggressive act of face saving on the the side of the Iran. I'd put money on this being the end of the conflict.
No one knows how Trump will react obviously, but retired military figures (like Petraeus- interesting inteview here: Foreign Policy interview with Petraeus) are painting this as an unequivocal win, so it's not unreasonable to assume that's the advice he'll be given by his generals. The appearance of victory seems to be the guy's primary motivation in life.
Of course. Politicians being disgustingly opportunistic during times of war. That's exactly what we need right now
Of course. Politicians being disgustingly opportunistic during times of war. That's exactly what we need right now
Of course. Politicians being disgustingly opportunistic during times of war. That's exactly what we need right now
?Of course. Politicians being disgustingly opportunistic during times of war. That's exactly what we need right now
8 min ago
Iranian official tweets: "Get the hell out of our region!"
Iran's minister of telecommunications Mohammad Javad Azari Jahromi took to Twitter following the missile attack on US targets in Iraq.
"Get the hell out of our region!" he tweeted.
The tweet: Get the hell out of our region!#HardRevenge
Of course. Politicians being disgustingly opportunistic during times of war. That's exactly what we need right now
I'm not defending Trump but I think he was manipulated and lied to provoke this.I'd like to know who put the seed into Trump's brain to order the assassination to trigger this in the first place.
Absolutely no way he conjured this up himself.
I never said it was the right answer to go to war. I said Biden was being smart by not putting out a blanket statement before having all the facts.
Only a reckless fool of a politician would make a blanket statement like that before having all the facts. If it turns out US soldiers or personnel are dead then Biden would be buried for that kind of statement.
Then he has no business being presidentI'm not defending Trump but I think he was manipulated and lied to provoke this.
100% agreed, and I urge everyone to join a protest if they can and call their representative demeaning no war with Iran and the US out of Iraq.Tip to avoid further escalation: respect the sovereignty of Iraq and their expulsion of US forces and get the fuck out of the country.
I also have no time for lessons in Process Nuance from anyone. This was an extrajudicial killing of a foreign leader and no fucking handwringing over how to frame Sulemani's legacy would legitimize it, even if Trump had asked congress real nicely. This "US as the Eternal Protagonist of the World" horseshit is getting real old and is even now being trotted out by familiar faces on both sides of the aisle to obfuscate the circumstances surrounding this lunacy.
No war with Iran. The resistance to this must be clear-eyed and swift.
8 min ago
Iranian official tweets: "Get the hell out of our region!"
Iran's minister of telecommunications Mohammad Javad Azari Jahromi took to Twitter following the missile attack on US targets in Iraq.
"Get the hell out of our region!" he tweeted.
The tweet: Get the hell out of our region!#HardRevenge
Can someone shut down Twitter?
Mine is resigning though (thank fuck given it's Duncan Hunter.)100% agreed, and I urge everyone to join a protest if they can and call their representative demeaning no war with Iran and the US out of Iraq.
On the other hand, the Pentagon seems to be in disarray, so who knows if what the CENTCOM spokesperson said is even right! They just gave a briefing where they couldn't confirm number of missiles that hit nor their types.
Graham ended by saying he had just gotten off the phone with President Trump."This was an act of war, Sean, by any reasonable definition," Graham told host Sean Hannity. "The President has all the authority he needs under Article II to respond and how he responds is yet to be determined, but he has that authority to respond."
This is giving me flashbacks of the India-Pakistan standoff a year ago.
I hope for de-escalation, but Trump is cut out of the same cloth as Modi.
This is America, you always have more than one.Mine is resigning though (thank fuck given it's Duncan Hunter.)
That would comes off as opportunistic. Biden's about showing he has a steady hand. That involves not using the moment, without knowing all the facts, for political gain. His past statements have been worried carefully. Not surprising he'd hold off.