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[Aaron]

The Mel Blanc screams is some nightmarish stuff

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Was always wondering what the really high-pitched Mario voice in the betas was, really cool that it was Mel Blanc!

Even if it was stock audio and knowing he died years before Mario 64 came out, would have been cool if the most legendary voice actor of all time had the chance to lend his voice to the most iconic video game character of all time. But that's okay, Martinet's Mario voice became legendary in its own right.

 

[wrowa]

It reminds me of ganon's pyramid in Link to the Past.

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Yeah, I think this is an early version Ganon's castle where Hyrule castle got torn down and replaced entirely with this new pyramid like thing.

 

[Inugami]

This one blows my mind. Seeing the Arwing launch base like this had me smiling from ear to ear =) .

(Slightly off-topic: would love to see a 60fps Star Fox mod one day. Except for the framerate that game holds up quite well!)

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It would be a pretty complicated endeavor. It's not just the limits of the FX chip (which contrary to belief isn't doing ALL of the work, just most of it) but the root SNES itself. They also have to basically redo all of the animations since they were locked at 20fps.

It's a lot more work than simply uncommenting some code, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone pulls it off with a custom emulator+rom combo.

 

[Deleted member 55807]

It would be a pretty complicated endeavor. It's not just the limits of the FX chip (which contrary to belief isn't doing ALL of the work, just most of it) but the root SNES itself. They also have to basically redo all of the animations since they were locked at 20fps.

It's a lot more work than simply uncommenting some code, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone pulls it off with a custom emulator+rom combo.

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Thanks for the insight, that makes sense! Still a steady 20fps even would be quite the improvement in many scenarios =P .

 

[Lowblood]

Is that Peach and Bowser shacked up

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Not just that, but Mario, Luigi, and Peach all appear to be naked, any bit of the sprite we can actually see is skin/flesh colored. I think the implication is more that they're in casual clothing/undergarments since they'd be resting at home, but still.

(Yoshi is clearly naked though, his saddle is hanging on the ledge)

Who is that below Yoshi and next to Kirby? Can't quite make it out.

 

[Ashes of Dreams]

So they were doing a BOTW map in 1994 lol

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That's been the standard for Hyrule since A Link to the Past, also seen in Wind Waker (kinda) and Twilight Princess. Ocarina has always been the odd one out.

 

[Zedelima]

That's been the standard for Hyrule since A Link to the Past, also seen in Wind Waker (kinda) and Twilight Princess. Ocarina has always been the odd one out.

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Really? Im didn't remembered because despite playing them all, i was a long time ago

 

[Deleted member 2180]

Really? Im didn't remembered because despite playing them all, i was a long time ago

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I never payed attention despite playing them all lol

 

[B-Dubs]

Lady Bow all done. Easy peasy.

 

[Yunyo]

I think one of the more fun discoveries is how iterative Nintendo is when it comes to taking past ideas and using them in new games.

I think that's one reason why I really enjoyed BOTW. It's a culmination of everything Nintendo has been trying to do with 3D Zelda since the beginning. And the crown jewel of 3D Zelda, Ocarina of Time, has an extraordinarily strong foundation thanks to its 2D origin games. Bit by bit, Nintendo strove to build open where they couldn't build before. It's really something to see the the ramp-up to the master class adventure game; it all started somewhere, even if there were a lot of stumbles and cut content along the way.

 

[delete12345]

Someone is modifying the GBC source code.

 

[delete12345]

Is the model the same, vertex-wise, or it's an updated model?

 

[Lady Bow]

The beta model for Mario has been found that was used in the 1995 builds (Shoshinkai). One of the biggest differences is that Beta Mario's hair is noticeably pointier (lower poly). Mario's head also seems to be lower.

Lady Bow all done. Easy peasy.

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Much obliged!

Is the model the same, vertex-wise, or it's an updated model?

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The Mario 64 Odyssey costume is using the final Mario design from 64. (although slightly modified) If they were using the beta model the hair would be pointy.

 

[Sectorseven]

Someone mod Mario into Virtua Fighter.

 

[dallow_bg]

Someone mod Mario into Virtua Fighter.

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Ha, that's what I pictured too.

 

[JershJopstin]

Either early Hyrule Castle build or, and this is a stretch, an element of the Wind Temple.

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The textures and general aesthetic bears a very, very strong resemblance to what you see of Ganon's castle as it collapses.

 

[delete12345]

Someone mod Mario into Virtua Fighter.

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Can imagine Mario shouting やねんだいよ！

 

[Deleted member 2180]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

for reference

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I'm absolutely loving all the beta findings for OoT. I used to be really into modding OoT (I used to go by Jason777) -- the recent leak has been a dream come true.

Also, restored animations for beta magic...

 

[jph139]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

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Hmm, that's an interesting idea.

Like, my immediate reaction upon seeing the castle was that it's strange they modeled the outside of the gates, and had screenshots posed outside - if it was a hub like Clock Town, the exterior and interior would be entirely different areas, right? So there'd have to be something outside of the walls, which kind of defeats the purpose of the four exists going to different places.

I can imagine foggy woods being a good way to make such a huge place actually run, masking the loading/unloading of everything. Imagine running through the woods and seeing those huge walls slowly fading into view...

 

[Deleted member 30395]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

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I think this is a really solid theory. Here's a slightly edited (quickly and crudely) version of the pic with the contrast, black point and exposure shifted. Def looks like a wall and a gate entrance.

 

[Cess007]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

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omg, this leaks is my favorite thing in a long, long time. Each tidbit seems to blow my mind

 

[Lady Bow]

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[FormatCompatible]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

for reference

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Holy shit

 

[lowmelody]

This thread is morphine.

 

[giancarlo123x]

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I want more of these beautiful leaks dammit.

 

[Setsune]

Actually, Super Mario 64 has a different voice actor, Leslie Swan. For Super Mario 64 DS, they brought her back to do new voices, so she actually DOES say "Luigi" (along with "Yoshi" and "Wario") in that game at the end.

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...No, not that I'm aware of. She only says "Yoshi" twice, despite the fact that you are forced to beat the game with Mario. It actually really annoyed me at the time how much they rewrote the game to be centered around Yoshi. (Nintendo seemed kind of obsessed with the green dino for a period.) She doesn't mention Wario or Luigi, to my knowledge, and doesn't even say Mario's name anymore.

That's not to say there aren't voice samples of Leslie Swan saying their names from elsewhere, but not the ending.

 

[FormatCompatible]

This changes so much of the mystique I had around the "beta Lost Woods". To think this location could be this close to Hyrule Castle.

 

[Rodney McKay]

Damn, every time I see this thread title I think it's new information about the Switch port/remake of Mario 64. :(

 

[TheLastOfPizzaCrUSt]

In the February 99 issue of Next Generation, they ask Miyamoto about Mario 64 2:
"The prototype of Mario 64 2 has been kept on my desk, and remains untouched-Luigi and Mario are running on the display i have. originally, i wanted to make it for the DD system, but i havent touched it because of Zelda.Maybe i oculd aska different group to work on it for me, or perhaps we could make it on a new system, but right now, i dont know.''
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Also, concering SMW, the Yoshi wings using the leftover Mario Wing powerup, Mario also uses the WingCap in Mario64, so that seemed to carry over from the Mario Wing idea.

 

[TreIII]

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FASCINATING.

20+ years later, and these same old screen shots that were things I obsessed over, are beguiling me all over again...

 

[MondoMega]

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That really does change a lot about how I interpreted that old screenshot; wow. The gigaleak just keeps on giving.

 

[Runwhiteboyrun]

Damn, every time I see this thread title I think it's new information about the Switch port/remake of Mario 64. :(

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You must read thread titles in a really funny way...

 

[Ashes of Dreams]

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Oh wow, I'm freaking out right now. The Beta Lost Woods I've imagined for over twenty years was actually Hyrule Field.

Hyrule Field even has Poes in the final game.

 

[Why would you do that?]

...No, not that I'm aware of. She only says "Yoshi" twice, despite the fact that you are forced to beat the game with Mario. It actually really annoyed me at the time how much they rewrote the game to be centered around Yoshi. (Nintendo seemed kind of obsessed with the green dino for a period.) She doesn't mention Wario or Luigi, to my knowledge, and doesn't even say Mario's name anymore.

That's not to say there aren't voice samples of Leslie Swan saying their names from elsewhere, but not the ending.

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Ah sorry, you're right; I totally misremembered that somehow. I could've sworn the Princess at one point called out everyone's name.

The ending in that game is way more awkward than I remembered, though, how the Princess only calls out Yoshi by name, but then kisses Mario, and poor Luigi and Wario are just standing there doing nothing lol.

 

[P-Tux7]

The ending in that game is way more awkward than I remembered, though, how the Princess only calls out Yoshi by name, but then kisses Mario, and poor Luigi and Wario are just standing there doing nothing lol.

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You want awkward? Beat Bowser with Luigi in Super Mario World. "Mario, the Princess, and Yoshi are going to take a vacation"

 

[Setsune]

Ah sorry, you're right; I totally misremembered that somehow. I could've sworn the Princess at one point called out everyone's name.

The ending in that game is way more awkward than I remembered, though, how the Princess only calls out Yoshi by name, but then kisses Mario, and poor Luigi and Wario are just standing there doing nothing lol.

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Yeah, it was a completely weird call. As was making a game where unlocking all 4 characters was a big deal, but locking the final boss to just one character, and not even the character you started with.

 

[Deleted member 9399]

I know the heavy fog is a consequence of hardware limitations but damn the haziness of the beta OoT screenshots are so atmospheric and eerie even this many years later lol. I used to go nuts analyzing them as a kid

 

[delete12345]

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[Rodney McKay]

You must read thread titles in a really funny way...

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It's jot a thread I care too much about, but when I see "News, UPDATE: Mario 64..." my heart skips a beat... And THEN I see the rest. :(

 

[Capra]

I know the heavy fog is a consequence of hardware limitations but damn the haziness of the beta OoT screenshots are so atmospheric and eerie even this many years later lol. I used to go nuts analyzing them as a kid

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Reminds me of how I obsessed over Twilight Princess pre-release footage back when it was Zelda '05. Those early trailers had this heavy, almost apocalyptic atmosphere. I'm still bummed we never saw anything like that forest at night from the 2nd trailer.

 

[Runwhiteboyrun]

It's jot a thread I care too much about, but when I see "News, UPDATE: Mario 64..." my heart skips a beat... And THEN I see the rest. :(

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Haha good deal fair enough, can't wait for the remake either.

 

[balgajo]

Reminds me of how I obsessed over Twilight Princess pre-release footage back when it was Zelda '05. Those early trailers had this heavy, almost apocalyptic atmosphere. I'm still bummed we never saw anything like that forest at night from the 2nd trailer.

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Even though I love OOT the most(it's also my goat) I'm more interested into TP beta stuff. Maybe because TP was the game I hyped the most.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

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I love this thread so much.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Someone posted this on discord, what I always thought was an early version of lost woods might be hyrule field?

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I love it. Find that beta Poe asset!

 

[FormatCompatible]

Even though I love OOT the most(it's also my goat) I'm more interested into TP beta stuff. Maybe because TP was the game I hyped the most.

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Yeah I was pretty hyped for TP too. Don't hate the final game but don't particularly love it either but I'm similar in that I kept watching the various trailer and videos and was bit disappointed in not seeing some of the stuff from it in the final release.

One I can think off the top of my head (and goes along with my obsession with forests in Zelda since OOT I guess) is the seemingly bigger forest area from the pre-release stuff

This little lake/pond is also something I was sad to not see in the final game

 

[Zedelima]

Yeah I was pretty hyped for TP too. Don't hate the final game but don't particularly love it either but I'm similar in that I kept watching the various trailer and videos and was bit disappointed in not seeing some of the stuff from it in the final release.

One I can think off the top of my head (and goes along with my obsession with forests in Zelda since OOT I guess) is the seemingly bigger forest area from the pre-release stuff

This little lake/pond is also something I was sad to not see in the final game

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This game also have a fascinating dev story

it was in a development hell...and i think this game that is in the trailers were real at some point

 

[Richietto]

After all these years we find out its not fucking lost woods at all. Shits rad.

 

[balgajo]

Yeah I was pretty hyped for TP too. Don't hate the final game but don't particularly love it either but I'm similar in that I kept watching the various trailer and videos and was bit disappointed in not seeing some of the stuff from it in the final release.

One I can think off the top of my head (and goes along with my obsession with forests in Zelda since OOT I guess) is the seemingly bigger forest area from the pre-release stuff

This little lake/pond is also something I was sad to not see in the final game

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Exactly like me....I'm obsessed about those pics too....XD
Spent a lot of hours looking for the beta forest. TP is still my third favorite Zelda game(behind oot and mm) but I expected(maybe unrealistically) it to be much more than it is.

 

[big_z]

I remember an issue of GameFan that had photos of Zelda 64 but can't remember if it was this issue because my cousin Azula destroyed it.

Those photos stood out to me because it was drastically different than what we got with OOT

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I have this issue and just checked. There's no Zelda stuff in it.