The cut off is Feb 28th even if you've been let go but the employer has to put in the paperwork.
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The cut off is Feb 28th even if you've been let go but the employer has to put in the paperwork.
I was told before that date but 'technically' I'm still employed as I had a month notice period I didn't have to work that I get paid for on the 28th. Extremely lucky to have that coming in, but after that who knows.
That's fortunate, you will be on the payroll then so should qualify if the employer will apply on your behalf.
I didn't get to watch the press briefing this evening but was there any clarity on how the 80% wages thing will affect hourly workers? My housemate is on a 20 hours minimum contact but useably gets more, curious to know how that ambiguity will affect him and potentially people who are on 0 hours contacts.
I do not work in HR nor do I know much about how this works, but it may well be worth talking to the employer and seeing if they can assist.
Ultimately, with this measure today, they could keep you employed for the next three months at least, with no cost to themselves?
Thanks guys, I'll get in touch and see what they say.
Didn't someone in the thread say that we seem to be following Italy's footsteps?
I'm not necessarily advocating complete isolation, but Boris could've done things a lot differently a lot earlier. I'm still not sure whether he will respond in the best way, as soon as needed.
Walked past plenty of pubs on my way home from work to train station in the city and all still open. Virgin gym still looked open.
Plenty of places will ignore this if there is no mention of fines.
Also what is the deal with casino's? Haven't read anything about them.
I got a take out from favourite curry house - tables were deserted, but they seemed like they would be OK with just take out for the time being.
I reckon food is safe - it's cooked after all.
Hm... perhaps, but then all the staff have been told they'll be paid by the government regardless of whether they'll stay open or not.
I think people have been comparing the two countries' death and infection rates. They have been broadly similar, but it appears that our rates are slowly down compared to Italy at the same time.
Really? Woah. What did she like about it from an academic point of view?
I ordered Chinese last night but made sure to order from the place nearby that has 5* food hygiene rating rather than the nicer place that has 4*
Small differences but thought I'd take the step 🤷♂️
Even "not as bad" as Italy is really bad. Italy went into country wide quarantine on Mar 9th when daily deaths weren't that much higher than the UK. I really hope that UK citizens are as healthy as they seem to think.
Half of those who had to be hospitalized in Italy are younger than 50.
While the majority of those who die from Corona are older than 50, it really doesn't mean young people are in the clear. If enough people get hospitalized then the NHS don't have any more beds and then people who needed hospitalisation start dying because they can't get treatment.
While the majority of those who die from Corona are older than 50, it really doesn't mean young people are in the clear. If enough people get hospitalized then the NHS don't have any more beds and then people who needed hospitalisation start dying because they can't get treatment.
^^^
This needs to be understood. Even the quoted fatality rate of 0.1% for young people is huge. People are just looking at the absolute risk and thinking that a small percentage means they are OK, but on a population level its a staggering number of deaths.
Boris said "we are telling – telling – cafes, pubs, bars and restaurants to close tonight, as soon as they reasonably can, and not open tomorrow", so no one is going to shut. I imagine from tomorrow it'll be enforced.
On Monday they are planning on pushing the coronavirus bill through, which is 329 pages, and contains measures for police to shut down events, limit freedom of movement, prevent interference with supply chains, deal with the black market etc. They want it for 2 years, opposition wants it reviewed every 2 months. I suspect this weekend will see ministers scrambling to have it back up today's announcements.
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Government scientific advisers have already said that if they can get death down to 20,000 or below that will be fantastic achievement. In the best of best case scenarios they're already consigned to thousands dying.
It clearly is. If government policy was to drop infection rates to below 1 then they'd have called a complete shutdown days ago. That is they only way to achieve that. What we are seeing is what I keep telling you yet you keep willfully refusing to address and consistently mischaracterising. They adopting a suppression method with a staggered approach in order to allow for a greater infection spread among the healthy for the greatest time possible before it's not feasible.
Just think about it rationally, what has changed with the outbreak that schools were safe to be open for this entire past week but not next week? What has changed with this outbreak that pub, clubs. bar etc... were safe to be open yesterday but not tomorrow? Nothing. Do you honestly think health experts have changed their minds in a day? Do you honestly think a days delay has any serious economic benefit? No. The point was allow to continued controlled spread. Just look at the wording being used to justify the actions "now it the time to exert more downward force on the curve". Why now? All that's happened between now and yesterday was more people infected. And that is the point.
Eventually the government will want R0 to be 1 or below but what they don't want is to achieve that too early or too aggressively because as I keep telling you it'll be all for nothing once they relax measures and outbreaks resume as we have little to no breaks within the transmission line.
You keep conflating two completely separate things despite me correcting you 3 times now. Mitigation and herd immunity are two different things. What you keep trying to critique is the mitigation process. With mitigation the policy was to only isolate those with the disease and over 70s. That is it. That's all the measures that would have been place. That's what people keep talking about when they mention these half a million figures. That was the governments policy, but it no longer is. What the government is now doing is suppression whereby they are calling for social distancing of anyone with potential symptoms and their families, closure of schools and universities and preventing large gatherings. Now the problem with this route is, and if you read the ICL report you'd know this since it's littered across it, is that once measures are relaxed you'll see an even massive spike of cases in the winter months.
Do you see that green and orange spikes in November and December? That's what I keep telling you. It's beyond pointless to enact extreme suppression methods now if ~8months time when you relax them you're going to have an even worse situation. So as I keep telling you what the government are doing is walking a tight rope between suppressing the infection enough so that it doesn't impact the at risk but also allowed enough infection so some degree of herd immunity builds up to a sufficient level so that by the winter months we have enough breaks in the transmission chain that we can bring that curve down. Because it's not realistic in the slightest to have these strict measures in place for 18 months.
You're misconstruing herd immunity and mitigation. They are two different things. All the stats you're listing are NOT about herd immunity, they're about a mitigation policy. Before you call people morons at lest get that basic distinction correct.
Even with a strict suppression policy models have shown without a doubt that cases will spike to peak levels if herd immunity have not been achieved. The literature is littered with this exact point, how you all keep missing it is beyond me.
That's what the government is doing. Suppressing the infection but trying to build up enough herd immunity that we don't see a recurrence of cases once it's relaxed.
Any updates on pregnancy other than they were added to the vulnerable category earlier in the week? I caught a bit of Nicola Sturgeon's conference earlier when she said there would be an update for women in late term pregnancy later today, but I can't find anything new just what was already said earlier.
This is your brain on tory media. No sane person is advocating for herd immunity.
walking... comedy podcast... get yourself on strava (it's an app)... share activities and comments and likes and pics
trust me it's good for the soul
You cannot control who gets infected or when and this virus will literally kill millions of people while this is happening. It's insane.
Is Imperial College London tory media now?
Don't low-effort drive by post with moronic nonsense like this if you're not capable of having a serious discussion.
Moronic nonsense? lol. I'm not the one stanning fucking herd immunity
Isolating entire households with just symptoms, preventing contact with the at risk and elderly, preventing public gatherings. That is how you control the infection.
More low effort nonsense. Prove me wrong. Engage in a in-depth counter argument as to why herd immunity is nonsense. Try and write more than once sentence while you're at it.
Yeah, it's a good night to huddle around a fire with strangers in a pub garden.
legally in the UK hot food must be served over 63 degrees
SARS... which is also a coronavirus... becomes inactive at 56 degrees
taking into account food is cooked well over 100 degrees... i'd say perfectly safe
Please cool it, set out your arguments if you can, use the ignore function if you have to. Thanks.
Herd immunity without a vaccine is fucking stupid and those advocating for it believe that 3% of the population are expendable. We have - or had herd immunity for say, measles because of the MMR. This is decreasing because people are idiots. Without a vaccine for C-19 those with suppressed immune systems will die. People with no symptoms can still be carriers for the disease and we are currently unaware if people can reinfected, we don't even know if it behaves like other corona viruses, e.g. common cold where the body builds a temporary immunity.
Since you are here, you probably have a gaming console. How about getting one of those dancing games.
The packaging on the other hand might not be, it's rather alarming to think about any surface you bring home someone might have coughed on. Washing hands after dealing with packaging is a good precaution, I guess.
I think they mentioned using existing licensing laws to enforce this. So ad hoc "lock-ins" could be exempt.
Boris can make anyone look good, but at least they have got off their arses at last.
One local has shut, though it is very 'local' so I expect there to be a few lock ins there. The two other pubs nearby are full, one being more full than normal, hopefully there is some genuine bite given to local authorities.
Was thinking about getting that switch fitness boxing game as ring fit is pointless as have no room for it in my bedroom.
Yeah. If he was at the centre podium, giving out the insufficient, late "advice", I wonder how impressive he'd seem. He's fortunate that his job, for now, is relaying good news.
I haven't heard anything about Ireland so far. Whats the situation over there right now?
Something like that which might be more fun since you have a Switch: Arms.
That's currently going for £170-250 on Amazon rn
edit: ring fit that is
Soooo they've given people on Universal Credit a small boost.....but those on ESA,JSA, Income support,Carers,Self Employed can all go do one...I see
Just been lurking this thread but my office has shut down indefinitely today. Those of us who can are going to have to assist other departments who are already working remotely but those of us who can't.... are still being paid fully, including the new hires who who have only been with us a week.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.