UK Coronavirus Discussion

Deleted member 8463 · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
RT UK on Twitter

“Benidorm + Coronavirus = Managerial mayhem! As Spain becomes the fourth most infected nation in the world… Some Brits are doing their best to avoid virus precautions and carry on with their holiday as normal. https://t.co/9r79Iz3LjZ”

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Brits abroad oi oi

Look how many flew back from Madrid last week. Zero were tested entering the country.

RulkezX · Mar 16, 2020

Ferrasvansen said:
Seriously? We got told we would face fines, parenting orders... are you stupid?

There are no fines in Scotland for keeping children off school, that's an entirely English law. It'll take you a matter of seconds to confirm this yourself the the Scottish .gov website

Quade · Mar 16, 2020

Did a hear a quote of 500,000 predicted deaths in the U.K? Could anyone link me?

dsk1210 · Mar 16, 2020

Ferrasvansen said:
Too fucking right I'm obsessed about schools, I've three ppl living in my house with serious conditions including one who is very ill with cystic fibrosis, we also have my 13 year old here who goes to the busiest school in Scotland, what are we supposed to do?

I am going to keep my son off now for 2 weeks, I ain't fucking about during the fastest spreading portion of the pandemic. The schools will probabaly shit in that time anyway.

Punished Dan · Mar 16, 2020

Git said:
Look how many flew back from Madrid last week. Zero were tested entering the country.

And we let a few thousand Atletico Madrid fans into the country.

Ferrasvansen · Mar 16, 2020

RulkezX said:
There are no fines in Scotland for keeping children off school, that's an entirely English law. It'll take you a matter of seconds to confirm this yourself the the Scottish .gov website

Actually if you refuse to follow an attendance order you can be fined £1000.

Axe · Mar 16, 2020

Seems like me they're trying to ease us into a full lockdown rather than spring it on us. I imagine tomorrow some restrictions will start creeping in, and it'll full-on happen by the end of the week.

Yogi · Mar 16, 2020

Axe said:
Seems like me they're trying to ease us into a full lockdown rather than spring it on us. I imagine tomorrow some restrictions will start creeping in, and it'll full-on happen by the end of the week.

Hope to god that's the case.

Ferrasvansen said:
Actually if you refuse to follow an attendance order you can be fined £1000.

"I was showing symptoms, Boris told us whole household stays at home."

2 weeks isn't enough but hopefully the schools will be shut down by then. Maybe someone else starts showing symptoms after that. Or the first symptoms were just the flu.

No clue when the NHS is going to crumble though. 2 weeks from now? Maybe getting it now (like right now) is better if you can't isolate for much longer.

RulkezX · Mar 16, 2020

Ferrasvansen said:
Actually if you refuse to follow an attendance order you can be fined £1000.

There's literally a crisis at home clause written into the legislation.

But you crack on making excuses why you need to government to tell you to take precautions over the health of the 3 seriously ill folk in your home.

Punished Dan · Mar 16, 2020

A total of 53 people have died in the UK an increase of 18 in 24 hours.

Plasma · Mar 16, 2020

Oh look the government have realised we might have a problem.

Ferrasvansen · Mar 16, 2020

RulkezX said:
There's literally a crisis at home clause written into the legislation.

But you crack on making excuses why you need to government to tell you to take precautions over the health of the 3 seriously ill folk in your home.

Making excuses I'm one of the three, do you think I want to get sick, teachers today were quite clear, you can't keep him off.

Dirtyshubb · Mar 16, 2020

Mewn said:
I'm a civil servant and I'm due to get a laptop this week. If Boris is saying to WFH, shouldn't the civil service of all things be setting the example?

No, they are saying we should be setting an example by keeping things business as usual and coming in if we can.

It's complete bollocks, this super high bar gets set for civil servants while we also get thrown under the bus whenever it fucking suits them.

Luckily my team already wfh 2 days a week and my manager convinced hers that we would trial doing 4 days a week for 8 weeks last week. We were scheduled to go in tomorrow for our day in and team meeting but we have put it back to Friday in the hopes of things getting worse so we can get it agreed we can wfh full time for now.

Most of us either fall into the susceptible category of live with people who do and since we work in Westminster we do have a good case for us to stay home so I'm hopeful it will be OK but we shall see.

dean_rcg · Mar 16, 2020

I love how at the end of the press conference the camera pans back to show lots of journalists sitting shoulder to shoulder and walking together etc, farcical.

Slair · Mar 16, 2020

Gawge said:
You should be working from home.

I don't think i can, we handle pretty sensitive information so they haven't even put in to place any work from home measures in case of a security breach.

I'm gonna phone the office but there will just be a random manager on with no real authority or information on what I'm supposed to do.

dean_rcg · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
A total of 53 people have died in the UK an increase of 18 in 24 hours.

Another 17?? At this current rate of not testing many people we'll have more deaths than confirmed cases...

Blizz · Mar 16, 2020

Gawge said:
When they say they advise against pubs/clubs should be avoided... it seems they won't be enforcing closures. Just advising against?

So that small nightclubs/pubs can't claim their insurance and pay their workers while in quarantine, this is basically a big 'fuck you' to anyone who works in these places.

plagiarize · Mar 16, 2020

If you aren't testing all the sick people, how do you know they even had it? People are going to catch something else, think it was COVID-19 and then go back to socializing, etc.

Blackthorn · Mar 16, 2020

Still no word on what they're going to provide for self-employed people to stop us from losing everything.

Xando · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
A total of 53 people have died in the UK an increase of 18 in 24 hours.

With 1,543 cases that would mean mortality of about 3.3%. Also if we assume the 10% of hospitalizations is true it means the overall number of infections in the UK is around 15.4k.

Kyari · Mar 16, 2020

Mewn said:
I'm a civil servant and I'm due to get a laptop this week. If Boris is saying to WFH, shouldn't the civil service of all things be setting the example?

Massive quantities of the civil service rank and file can't do their job from home, so everything about Boris saying to WFH is absolute arse.

Deleted member 31104 · Mar 16, 2020

The only reason he's not mandating closures is to prevent his cronies in the insurance industry being on the hook for the closures. If the recommendation is not to go the pubs and restaurants and theatres then most won't go but they've not been 'forced' to shut triggering policies.

Zomba13 · Mar 16, 2020

plagiarize said:
If you aren't testing all the sick people, how do you know they even had it? People are going to catch something else, think it was COVID-19 and then go back to socializing, etc.

Yup, it is utterly stupid and incredibly dangerous. People will do exactly like you said, not get tested (because only people admitted to hospital are getting tested), think they've had it and recovered ("it was just like the flu!") then ACTUALLY get it down the line and pass it to even more people!.

Psychotext · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
RT UK on Twitter

“Benidorm + Coronavirus = Managerial mayhem! As Spain becomes the fourth most infected nation in the world… Some Brits are doing their best to avoid virus precautions and carry on with their holiday as normal. https://t.co/9r79Iz3LjZ”

twitter.com

Brits abroad oi oi

Jail them. Fucking cunts.

Garfield · Mar 16, 2020

We are out for my sons birthday. (I know but he does not understand) anyway. Big restaurant only 2 tables here. Dead as a door nail

nekkid · Mar 16, 2020

kmag said:
The only reason he's not mandating closures is to prevent his cronies in the insurance industry being on the hook for the closures. If the recommendation is not to go the pubs and restaurants and theatres then most won't go but they've not been 'forced' to shut triggering policies.

We had a Mother's Day meal booked at a pub for my wife. I'm not going to bother asking for the deposit back - hopefully try and help a little.

Kyari · Mar 16, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
No, they are saying we should be setting an example by keeping things business as usual and coming in if we can.

It's complete bollocks, this super high bar gets set for civil servants while we also get thrown under the bus whenever it fucking suits them.

Luckily my team already wfh 2 days a week and my manager convinced hers that we would trial doing 4 days a week for 8 weeks last week. We were scheduled to go in tomorrow for our day in and team meeting but we have put it back to Friday in the hopes of things getting worse so we can get it agreed we can wfh full time for now.

Most of us either fall into the susceptible category of live with people who do and since we work in Westminster we do have a good case for us to stay home so I'm hopeful it will be OK but we shall see.

I work on a site with thousands of civil service staff who just have not, and never will, be given the opportunity to work from home. There aren't enough laptops/surface pros for primarily clerical staff and/or policy dictates the larger departments are made of staff not of a high enough grade to be allowed their use. Or the information being dealt with is too secure to take home. Or they value phone coverage in contact areas too highly to allow it.

Take your pick of excuses but the lower grade civil service jobs are basically being told to get absolutely fucked.

GrizzleBoy · Mar 16, 2020

null said:
I like that we're not even testing now so people can't compare numbers reliable. how's that for some nice honest PR spin.

I think the way to take that is that control has already been lost and theres no point tearing because the virus is just out and spreading everywhere uncontrollably at this point.

Testing is just pointless, is basically what they're saying.

Were way past being able.to control anything.

brain_stew · Mar 16, 2020

JonnyDBrit said:
The whole 'don't call 111 unless it's a real emergency' thing is just so... weird to process. Like, the whole point of that service was to cover non-urgent medical concerns, and even that is now being treated as it must only be for essential needs.

Our infrastructure is increasingly fucked

I'm the resource planning manager for one of the 111 providers, you have no idea the amount of pressure that has been put on the service over the last week. Those that have mild symptoms and have been told to self isolate aren't going to receive any more advice than they can already get from the website. By calling the service you are preventing those with legitimate needs from having their calls answered.

Newman96 · Mar 16, 2020

A friend I know who works for Virgin is being told they have to take 8 weeks unpaid leave or redundancy as it stands.

dean_rcg · Mar 16, 2020

Blizz said:
So that small nightclubs/pubs can't claim their insurance and pay their workers while in quarantine, this is basically a big 'fuck you' to anyone who works in these places.

What a scummy way to do it.

I wonder how many of BoJo's donors have large stakes in insurance companies...

Deleted member 17402 · Mar 16, 2020

Psychotext said:
Jail them. Fucking cunts.

These morons look like they'd be Trump supporters. Is there overlap between Brexit supporters and Trump supporters?

nekkid · Mar 16, 2020

TheFallenSaboteur said:
These morons look like they'd be Trump supporters. Is there overlap between Brexit supporters and Trump supporters?

I saw a van with a MAGA hat on the dash parked near my mum's. We live an hour's drive outside London...

Aprikurt · Mar 16, 2020

Git said:
Excellent, so I have to shield myself for 3 months because the government can't be fucked to do anything.
I'm wondering how long until schools just follow the WHO and ignore the government. Our uni got an angry letter from the government cause they ignored their shit instructions

Schools will be even more hesitant to shut than the government themselves. There's not a chance in hell one will close before the others, because it will severely compromise their place on league tables. The data means an immense amount to schools keeping open these days, as tragic as that is. If it's all of them at once, that's one thing, but nobody's going to jump first. It's very similar with snow, headteachers will ring round local contemporaries to check if they're closing.

brain_stew · Mar 16, 2020

JediTimeBoy said:
I don't understand why they don't set up a special number to ring for the coronavirus.

The national IVR will route you to the central centre setup to deal with Covid19 calls but everything is swamped, so that isn't enough to prevent the local providers from constantly queuing calls.

honeymustard · Mar 16, 2020

Newman96 said:
A friend I know who works for Virgin is being told they have to take 8 weeks unpaid leave or redundancy as it stands.

Yeah, my brother is in the same position. Nuts.

Krypta · Mar 16, 2020

JediTimeBoy · Mar 16, 2020

brain_stew said:
The national IVR will route you to the central centre setup to deal with Covid19 calls but everything is swamped, so that isn't enough to prevent the local providers from constantly queuing calls.

Yeah sorry, I had a dumb moment, and didn't think it through before posting.

Qikz · Mar 16, 2020

Working from home tomorrow as of today. Holy shit.

Punished Dan · Mar 16, 2020

Psychotext said:
Jail them. Fucking cunts.

agreed.

Praxis · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
RT UK on Twitter

“Benidorm + Coronavirus = Managerial mayhem! As Spain becomes the fourth most infected nation in the world… Some Brits are doing their best to avoid virus precautions and carry on with their holiday as normal. https://t.co/9r79Iz3LjZ”

twitter.com

Brits abroad oi oi

Walking stereotypes

JonnyDBrit · Mar 16, 2020

brain_stew said:
I'm the resource planning manager for one of the 111 providers, you have no idea the amount of pressure that has been put on the service over the last week. Those that have mild symptoms and have been told to self isolate aren't going to receive any more advice than they can already get from the website. By calling the service you are preventing those with legitimate needs from having their calls answered.

Right. That we've gotten to this point - and put folks like you in such a position - is a sign of how badly prepared we are for an event like this.

Also to you and your coworkers, I really do wish you the best through this. Please look after yourselves as you look after the rest of us

Bobson Dugnutt · Mar 16, 2020

Krypta said:

Is he currently in the UK? Would love me that rich person's testing hotline

gosublime · Mar 16, 2020

Aprikurt said:
Schools will be even more hesitant to shut than the government themselves. There's not a chance in hell one will close before the others, because it will severely compromise their place on league tables. The data means an immense amount to schools keeping open these days, as tragic as that is. If it's all of them at once, that's one thing, but nobody's going to jump first. It's very similar with snow, headteachers will ring round local contemporaries to check if they're closing.

True, but at a certain point if enough teachers aren't in school they close anyway - it's untenable due to numbers. Our deputy heads wife was off today as her youngest has a fever, so he should be off for 14 days now along with his wife.

nekkid · Mar 16, 2020

Krypta said:

Reset the clock.

Dirtyshubb · Mar 16, 2020

Kyari said:
I work on a site with thousands of civil service staff who just have not, and never will, be given the opportunity to work from home. There aren't enough laptops/surface pros for primarily clerical staff and/or policy dictates the larger departments are made of staff not of a high enough grade to be allowed their use. Or the information being dealt with is too secure to take home. Or they value phone coverage in contact areas too highly to allow it.

Take your pick of excuses but the lower grade civil service jobs are basically being told to get absolutely fucked.

Yeah it is terrible for some staff not only because of those reasons but also for many senior managers they see wfh as some jolly and don't trust staff to be at home.

Deleted member 8463 · Mar 16, 2020

Psychotext said:
Jail them. Fucking cunts.

In Italy they would be..

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/12/peop...se-self-isolate-face-murder-charges-12385790/

Aprikurt · Mar 16, 2020

Krypta said:

Luther's going to punch this virus in the goddamn throat

Dirtyshubb said:
Yeah it is terrible for some staff not only because of those reasons but also for many senior managers they see wfh as some jolly and don't trust staff to be at home.

Places like this are going to die off once everything's back to normal. People won't forget this, and employers acting like callous assholes during this unprecedented crisis is pretty unforgivable.

ReplacementPelican · Mar 16, 2020

Punished Dan said:
RT UK on Twitter

“Benidorm + Coronavirus = Managerial mayhem! As Spain becomes the fourth most infected nation in the world… Some Brits are doing their best to avoid virus precautions and carry on with their holiday as normal. https://t.co/9r79Iz3LjZ”

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Brits abroad oi oi

Fucking piece of shit Guiri, I hope when they fuck off back to the UK they don't bring anything with them.

Shibata100 · Mar 16, 2020

Newman96 said:
A friend I know who works for Virgin is being told they have to take 8 weeks unpaid leave or redundancy as it stands.

I will never be flying with them in the future!

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