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U.S. violates JCPOA; Trump withdraws from Iran nuclear deal & reimposes economic sanctions (UPDATE)
- Thread starter GaimeGuy
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It's almost as if a lot of posters on ERA have no idea what they're talking about.
Probably the fact that Bolton, Netanyahu, and Trump are all war-mongering pieces of shit?
Absolutely! "Something better" like his brilliant ACA replacement. I've never felt healthier.
How does this at all help the prospects of an NK deal? He just made himself less likely to stick to a deal than Kim is, and it was doubtful that Kim would stick to anything in the first place.
John Bolton has stated he wanted a regime change by 2019. You'd be naive to think there wasn't a chance that this could lead to an assault on Iran.
eu has said they'll stay, and just confirmed after trump's speech.
This is exactly the kind of bullshit that incentivizes nuclear weapons research. Good job, president dumbass.
With sanctions in place, doing business is going to be highly risky.
Hell, good old paragon of American manufacturing Boeing will probably end up losing Billions since this will effectively halt that massive airliner sale.
Donald Trump wants to be president for life. He's been vocal about this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...07/trump-as-president-for-life-thats-no-joke/
I don't know how a nuclear war helps him achieve that end. Not even martial law can stop a presidential election. Things are going to be spooky. Whatever the case may be, he really wants to wag the dog and North Korea doesn't want to wag the dog anymore so now it's Iran's turn
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opinion/to-stop-irans-bomb-bomb-iran.html
Right.
Christ.... I just fucking managed to tune out the news for the past three days. I come back and all is fucked. I don't know whether to go all rancher in south Dakota and ignore the news or become a serious beer wine connoisseur, a la rand from south park.
Yup.
Boeing gonna take it in the shorts
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/08/iran-deal-fallout-boeing-may-lose-20-billion-in-aircraft-deals.html
Boeing gonna take it in the shorts
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/08/iran-deal-fallout-boeing-may-lose-20-billion-in-aircraft-deals.html
It'll wipe out the average family's savings from the Trump tax cut, so that's just good zero sum governing at work.
War is so unlikely, but living here will be an extreme torture after this. It was a disaster, but it's going to be MUCH harder.
Depressing. I hope at least the contract between EU and Iran stays and remains efficient somehow.
I believe he spoke plenty through Trump this afternoon.
Can someone explain how the US backing out would lead to Iran pursuing nuclear armament, without the EU pulling out of the deal?
Israel is always up for shooting some Muslims and Saudi Arabia's king touches himself at night thinking about becoming the undisputed hegemon in the ME.
The sane allies ( Europe ext.) will have none of it for sure.
It shows a lot.
I find it funny and a little sad that everyone just jumps to WW3 and even a post about getting drafted.
No. That's just Trump talking shit. Making threats is how he ran his business.
I presume they would sanction EU firms investing in Iran. As to the practicalities and consequences of that, your guess is as good as mine. I imagine most companies would stay away for fear of having their US assets frozen/seized.
Why did North Korea want to build a nuclear weapon? What did it earn them? Legitimacy.
Now, Look at Iran. Iran will clearly go the path of North Korea and pursue nuclear weapons to win legitimacy over the US.
Based on the language from Trump, that's definitely on the table.
Imagine the GOP being the ones to elect the first woman president.
Ignorance is a thing, i know.
In Europe prices will go up even more..
The only way from keeping the US destroying you is to have nukes it seems.
Yep, but actual on the ground support (if we actually do end up invading) would be minimal from both. No army actually wants to have to conquer the Persian highlands.
A big rig with two 150-gallon tanks will pay $90 more on average per fill-up - just with a 30 cent hike.
Diesel is already up to $3.07 a gallon nationally. It was $2.51 this time last year.
Thats the permanent damage here. the usa just took a backseat to any international geopolitical deals.
Output by oil producing countries have been reduced for a while. Couple that with improved/improving economies and we will surely see gas prices increase. In fact, oil prices have been increasing for quite a while now.
If you're talking about short term supply shocks then I see your point.
Your post was funny because it came off as if this was going to happen overnight.
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It's not like there has never been different party President and Congress in power. Since they can't get a bipartisan deal, that's why this Iran deal was easily remove. I can't imagine a Iran deal that requires NO Iran nukes forever with anytime + anywhere inspection would have not pass a Republican control Congress.
It's easy to pass legislation when the same party controls the executive and legislative branch. And, I can't imagine Democrats would say no to a NK deal that includes NO nukes forever on the Korean peninsular, and finally, a treaty to end of the Korean War.
So many comments that are just straight up hypocrisy in his speech. He actually whined about Iran increasing it's military spending by 40%. Like, WHAT?
And he references Bibi's stunt last week as proof Iran was lying. He's a fucking IDIOT.
And he references Bibi's stunt last week as proof Iran was lying. He's a fucking IDIOT.