I had some idea given the trailer- but no one expected the choreography to be that good. The lobby gunfight was insane for the time.
This clip from a screening of Avengers Endgame makes me realize just how badly The Rise of Skywalker dropped the ball.
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I had some idea given the trailer- but no one expected the choreography to be that good. The lobby gunfight was insane for the time.
My sister had the best reaction to that moment on opening night. She turned to me and said "Yo, this dude is a fucking asshole!" He was just so damn unbeatable.
The Last Jedi had many moments where my audience cheered like crazy
Yoda
Kylo killing Snoke
Luke's entire segment on Crait
Was honestly surprised to see mixed reaction to it online.
No one cheered during The Rise of Skywalker
Yoda
Kylo killing Snoke
Luke's entire segment on Crait
Was honestly surprised to see mixed reaction to it online.
No one cheered during The Rise of Skywalker
The only one I felt a slight twinge of excitement for was Luke catching his lightsaber. But even then it was like... what.
Yeah. We still didn't know any of the characters, and nothing that happened came from built expectations. All in all it made little sense. The only crowd reaction I remember is when Rey kissed Kylo Ren, and that was more confusion and disappointment.
I was really hoping Rey would break out into a musical number like this, just with the line "I'm every Jedi, its all in meeeee"
I wish I cared about the MCU like others do. I watched Endgame and I saw a hammer go into someone's hand. It's supposed to be a big deal, but I felt nothing. Zilch.
endgame will always be my number one
a shout to the dragon ball super finale... grown men in the streets cheering their heads off!!! (i wish i was there)
a shout to the dragon ball super finale... grown men in the streets cheering their heads off!!! (i wish i was there)
It doesn't resonate with people, that's okay! I don't get a lot of things, sports fans included. I've always kind of wanted to.
I live in the UK and none of that happens in a UK cinema. The only noise you'll get in a UK cinema is laughing during a comedy or funny moment. Beside that UK cinemas are pretty strict. No talking. No using mobile phones. I personally prefer this as I'm more immersed in the film. If people were screaming and shouting like a pack of howler monkeys it would destroy the experience for me.
Clearly it's a culture thing and it's cool if that's what happens in the US, but my question is about movies being designed to get those reactions.
Are you saying that some studios design movies just so the audience in the cinema start screaming from pure euphoric excitement?! Serious question as well. Not shit posting.
I remember watching the trailers online, this was like broadband was first becoming widespread and none of my friends were paying any attention to it, but in the back of my head I was going "what the .... fuck ... is this ... this looks insane, but it's just a well cut trailer, the movie can't be this good".
Then during the movie's press tour, I recall Joe Pantoliano, who plays Cipher, being asked something "yeah but what about Star Wars?" (keep in mind this was spring 1999 and alllllllllllllllll the talk was about Episode I) and Pantoliano said straight up "screw Star Wars, (Matrix) is better than Star Wars", and I remember thinking "man what an arrogant jack ass this guy is, this dinky little Keanu Reeves movie will get destroyed by the new Star Wars, George Lucas is the king" ... but shit ... he was right, lol.
Yeah, I'm in the minority with that. And that's ok. I'm glad lots love these movies.
You're associating fan service with it somehow just being tied to iconic scenes from the source material. It was a fan service moment cause fans have been wanting all these characters to show up together.
TROS tried this moment with the civilian(?) fleet coming in at the last second, and I'm just sitting there thinking...why the hell didn't this work in the last film?
My theatrical experience with Endgame was the best to date--the crowd went wild during the hype scenes, and was quiet as fuck at the right moments.
Me and the crowd were dead during the entirety of TROS. I originally was not going to see it, but my old man really wanted to and I couldn't say no to him.
Well, minus the little dude who was sniffling during Stark's funeral.
Me and the crowd were dead during the entirety of TROS. I originally was not going to see it, but my old man really wanted to and I couldn't say no to him.
Yeah, I mentioned crowd pleasing in a following post, and as I said in that post, most of these Marvel films are based upon crowd pleasing, so I wasn't seeing a distinction. It also kind of implies that these characters weren't written into the story for the battle anyway and that much of it was added just to please people, not to further the plot. If they were already planned to show up together anyway, that doesn't automatically make it fan service just because the crowd loved it.
One obvious bit of fan service to me though was when Captain America picked up Mjolnir and somehow managed to summon lightning...it doesn't work that way.
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I was thinking "Who the fuck are any of these people? Why are they helping now and not before? And why should I care if they live or die?"
Russos and Kevin Feige actually dropped in unannounced for the last half of Endgame at the Westwood Village theater (1000+ seater single screen, typically with a lot of UCLA students and other west LA types) on opening night to see the audience reactions. It caused a bit of a stir when the lights went up.
Yup. UK as well and Endgame was the first time this happened in 25+ years of moviegoing.
Except when I went to see Harry Potter and a distraught little boy begged Harry quite loudly not to go to the graveyard because Voldemort was there.
it's weird seeing people post about how cheering in a theater is some sort of unexpected, rude imposition
blockbuster movies are made for that sort of thing
we're not talking about someone randomly yelling during a quiet moment here
people are cheering at the places in the movie specifically constructed to elicit cheers
it's just like when people laugh when a movie has jokes
I think this is because nowadays people consume most of their movies sitting at home in silence and expect it to be the same when they go to the theater
blockbuster movies are made for that sort of thing
we're not talking about someone randomly yelling during a quiet moment here
people are cheering at the places in the movie specifically constructed to elicit cheers
it's just like when people laugh when a movie has jokes
I think this is because nowadays people consume most of their movies sitting at home in silence and expect it to be the same when they go to the theater
This entire setup, from cap using the hammer, all the way to to end... Phew. This part in particular gave me tears of joy as a lifelong comic fan. I had played out moments like this in my head, and with action figures, as a child, hundreds, probably thousands of times. And they nailed it.
This still gives me chills. It's soooo good. They'll try, but I don't think you can ever top this in the MCU.
There literally isn't a single aspect of The Rise of Skywalker's 'Avengers Assemble' scene that isn't completely trounced by Endgame's, but to put it into perspective lets do an in-depth comparison of the two villains, Thanos and Palpatine:
Thanos
Whilst the Thanos that we see in Endgame is not the exact same Thanos as the one in Infnity War, there is no doubt that he had proven himself to an incredibly threatening foe at that moment. He's the catalyst behind some of the major conflicts of the series and just a film prior he had effortlessly fucked everyone up before killing half of them and scarring the rest. Since the 'snap' he had gone from being a relatively unknown comic villain (compared to the likes of The Joker, Lex Luthor, etc) to one of the defining villains of a generation, perhaps even surpassing Darth Vader for some younger folk. For a kid going to see Endgame he would have been the guy who might have literally murdered their favourite hero. Everyone wanted to see him lose because they had seen him win so thoroughly.
Sheev Palpatine
After a nearly 15 years-long absence Sheev Palpatine was reintroduced to the world via Fortnite.
Thanos
Whilst the Thanos that we see in Endgame is not the exact same Thanos as the one in Infnity War, there is no doubt that he had proven himself to an incredibly threatening foe at that moment. He's the catalyst behind some of the major conflicts of the series and just a film prior he had effortlessly fucked everyone up before killing half of them and scarring the rest. Since the 'snap' he had gone from being a relatively unknown comic villain (compared to the likes of The Joker, Lex Luthor, etc) to one of the defining villains of a generation, perhaps even surpassing Darth Vader for some younger folk. For a kid going to see Endgame he would have been the guy who might have literally murdered their favourite hero. Everyone wanted to see him lose because they had seen him win so thoroughly.
Sheev Palpatine
After a nearly 15 years-long absence Sheev Palpatine was reintroduced to the world via Fortnite.
What are you talking about my Theater couldn't be contained when we all read "THE DEAD SPEAKS!"
You know referencing the audio broadcast from... fucking fortnite
You know referencing the audio broadcast from... fucking fortnite
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On that note, I actually think the whole Fortnite event was more interesting and exciting than anything actually in Rise of Skywalker. Like it was a really wierd & crazy thing I'd never seen before - right to the fact it was key to understanding a KEY PLOT POINT of the film. Having hundreds of people whacking each other with lightsabers...
That was memorable. The film, not so much.
Is this the one that looks painfully staged and apparently rented out by Reylos sometime after the initial release weekend?
There was no cheering in my screening (opening day), but all the same, the emotion was OFF THE CHARTS. Atmosphere was electric.
A lot of it is about the payoff for watching all 50 million interconnected MCU movies so if you weren't into MCU before Endgame wouldn't move you as much as fans have been moved.
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I love the fact a group of people hated a movie so much, they bought out an entire theater's worth of tickets just to dunk on it.
mine was a midnight screening, so I guess we were all incredibly excited. And tired.
In well over 30 years of going to the cinema and seeing tons of films (have been going 30+ times a year for the past 15 years as my local cinema became dirt cheap), there has been loud audience participation like in the OP in precisely one screening, a Batman 4 film marathon (89, Returns, Begins, TDK), and that was probably a mixture of being hardcore fans and alcohol being served.
Yep. In England i never hear anybody make any noise (mainly because its rude) but this moment was the first time I heard an audience actually cheer and go 'no fucking way' at some of the moments
In comparison, TROS had no such moment, barely event laughter
God that theater in the OP is my nightmare
Nothing like people acting like they've never seen a third act before and preventing everybody else from hearing what is actually going on
Nothing like people acting like they've never seen a third act before and preventing everybody else from hearing what is actually going on
I don't really get the reaction people had in that video for the portal scene. Like it was hype don't get me wrong, but I think everyone expected all of them to come back like that.
The real explosion of cheers was Cap wielding Mjolnir. That was a god tier moment.
The real explosion of cheers was Cap wielding Mjolnir. That was a god tier moment.
I hate when people talk over dialogue and such, but scenes like this are entirely designed for the audience to go wild (which is why they don't have dialogue at all). It's part of the experience, and directors know it fully well; if you don't like it, you're welcome to sunk in the corner or get the Blu-Ray.
Hahah, perfect. I watched TROS for the first time less than a week ago, and even having been told by my best friend (and huge SW fan) to stay away from it, it still managed to be far worse than I could have imagined.
Hahah, perfect. I watched TROS for the first time less than a week ago, and even having been told by my best friend (and huge SW fan) to stay away from it, it still managed to be far worse than I could have imagined.
It may have been something that would have pleased the hardcore fans more than the general audience but they should have gone full Endgame Portals with the fleet arriving like the novel.
Show Jacen and Hera in the Ghost, show Zay and Shriv from Inferno Squadron, show the Ace pilots from Resistance. Have some pay off with all of this world building outside of the movies.
The novel excerpt for those curious:
Show Jacen and Hera in the Ghost, show Zay and Shriv from Inferno Squadron, show the Ace pilots from Resistance. Have some pay off with all of this world building outside of the movies.
The novel excerpt for those curious:
"I paid to watch this movie in silence!"
Everyone in that theater paid too doofuses. If you're the odd one out, no one cares.
Everyone in that theater paid too doofuses. If you're the odd one out, no one cares.
It may have been something that would have pleased the hardcore fans more than the general audience but they should have gone full Endgame Portals with the fleet arriving like the novel.
Show Jacen and Hera in the Ghost, show Zay and Shriv from Inferno Squadron, show the Ace pilots from Resistance. Have some pay off with all of this world building outside of the movies.
The novel excerpt for those curious:
The general audience does not watch the cartoons so they would've just been confused who any of those people were.. Meanwhile, millions, possibly billions of people already know who Black Panther and Spider-Man are, hence the cheering.