This clip from a screening of Avengers Endgame makes me realize just how badly The Rise of Skywalker dropped the ball.
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Star Wars has been getting shown up for a while now.
The Matrix > Phantom Menace, of course TPM did bigger box office, but Matrix was the bigger pop culture impact.
Or you can say Titanic >> Phantom Menace.
Spider-Man >> Attack of the Clones, not really even close here.
Return of the King > Revenge of the Sith
I'd add probably the Pirates trilogy and Harry Potter series was bigger culturally than the prequel trilogy. And Avatar also.
And currently with the Disney era
Avengers > Sequel Trilogy.
The Matrix > Phantom Menace, of course TPM did bigger box office, but Matrix was the bigger pop culture impact.
Or you can say Titanic >> Phantom Menace.
Spider-Man >> Attack of the Clones, not really even close here.
Return of the King > Revenge of the Sith
I'd add probably the Pirates trilogy and Harry Potter series was bigger culturally than the prequel trilogy. And Avatar also.
And currently with the Disney era
Avengers > Sequel Trilogy.
I genuinely don't remember much of anything from TROS and I saw Endgame in theatres like three times despite not even being that into Marvel movies.
Watching Endgame with opening weekend crowds was a straight up delight. That scene still gives me chills. I remember seeing a bunch of kids lose their shit when all the heroes came together and the music swells, and it was so much fun.
Meanwhile I almost fell asleep watching TROS. Honest to god felt something like a straight to DVD sci-fi film with an inflated budget.
Watching Endgame with opening weekend crowds was a straight up delight. That scene still gives me chills. I remember seeing a bunch of kids lose their shit when all the heroes came together and the music swells, and it was so much fun.
Meanwhile I almost fell asleep watching TROS. Honest to god felt something like a straight to DVD sci-fi film with an inflated budget.
I love how fucking flaccid the Rise of Skywalker version of this was
like, good god did they whiff and to add insult to injury they pipe in the main Star Wars theme which is like a big flashing sign that says "we intend for this moment to give you chills. we intend for this moment to give you chills. this is the big moment. please feel." so when it misses it's even worse because of the way its framed as this big wind up for a huge dunk except the ball hits the rim and flies into the audience and the player has to be carted off the court because they pooped their pants on the jump up.
like, good god did they whiff and to add insult to injury they pipe in the main Star Wars theme which is like a big flashing sign that says "we intend for this moment to give you chills. we intend for this moment to give you chills. this is the big moment. please feel." so when it misses it's even worse because of the way its framed as this big wind up for a huge dunk except the ball hits the rim and flies into the audience and the player has to be carted off the court because they pooped their pants on the jump up.
yeah they said
it felt too obvious to have jon and Nk resolve that way...
when following a story to its natural conclusion is intentionally avoided for no good reason you get what we got
when following a story to its natural conclusion is intentionally avoided for no good reason you get what we got
I don't know man. Maybe not on the same level but about 17 years ago. Certain parts of Lord of the Rings trilogy was pretty hyped.
In the land of the free, yes. The only time I've ever had meals where there was no applause at the end is abroad in asia and europe and once in Canada at a Tim Horton's - the silence post food was DEAFENING. I don't know how you guys can stand it.
No, this is women and girls clapping and screaming. Clearly this is embarassing and doesn't count.
Now, that time the Pantherman and Spiderboy were resurrected from death like in fucking Naruto to punch the alien from an alternate timeline in the face? Goosebumps!
I very much appreciate these reaction videos from afar. I would go absolutely insane having to listen to that in person.
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Sure, the movie is flawed in a million different ways. It's just wild that it couldn't conjure even the mildest excitement for the end of Star Wars.
Every modern SW movie(TFA and onwards, seen em all opening night) premieres ive been to had standard solid reaction like clapping at the end, but TLJ is the only one where peopleactually popped the fuck off during its real big high moments in the climax (those moments were definitely designed that way). Kylo killing snoke, Rey kylo teaming up, Holdo manuever, Luke coming back, the reveal that Luke was projecting, all great. And yet i bet those people nowadays say they hated this movie
TROS audience did go off for Kylo when he comes back redeemed and Rey passes the saber to him tho.
It's TLJ, Endgame and IW, and Jurassic world 1 (the final dino showdown was nuts) , best opening nights in general ive ever been to
TROS audience did go off for Kylo when he comes back redeemed and Rey passes the saber to him tho.
It's TLJ, Endgame and IW, and Jurassic world 1 (the final dino showdown was nuts) , best opening nights in general ive ever been to
Those kind of audience reactions would have annoyed me. This isn't a sports event its a film.
Though TLJ did drop the ball, but there could have been a big build up in TROS and has reached it climax point, but it didn't, not even for Rey, Finn, Poe or Ben who for three films we were following id it feel like it paid off.
TROS's biggest problem was it was fan service-y and forgot nearly everything TLJ tried to do differently. Nolan's Joker said it best "Nobody panics when things go according to plan" it could have been the same for TLJ, but no.
Though TLJ did drop the ball, but there could have been a big build up in TROS and has reached it climax point, but it didn't, not even for Rey, Finn, Poe or Ben who for three films we were following id it feel like it paid off.
TROS's biggest problem was it was fan service-y and forgot nearly everything TLJ tried to do differently. Nolan's Joker said it best "Nobody panics when things go according to plan" it could have been the same for TLJ, but no.
Not sure if this one is so fair since ROTK was 2003 and ROTS was 2005.
The sequel trilogy at least started as the biggest thing in the world, the MCU movies were relatively pretty mediocre in 2005. They really turned the tables starting with Civil War.
We could all do a Zoom meeting when Falcon & Winter Soldier comes out.
Dating myself a bit here, but
The Matrix - the helicopter scene, the train leap(s) scene, and the stopping bullets in the hallway scenes were all pretty "holy shit" moments in theater from what I remember.
The Matrix - the helicopter scene, the train leap(s) scene, and the stopping bullets in the hallway scenes were all pretty "holy shit" moments in theater from what I remember.
Spider-man is in Central Park burying his Iron-Spider suit and when an old man who looks a lot like Stan Lee walks by...
"Whats your name kid?"
"Peter."
"Peter what?"
*Peter looks into the distance to see a Billboard with the image of Tony Stark on it*
"Peter... Stark."
Roll credits.
"Whats your name kid?"
"Peter."
"Peter what?"
*Peter looks into the distance to see a Billboard with the image of Tony Stark on it*
"Peter... Stark."
Roll credits.
ROTK was December 2003 and ROTS May 2005 that's comparable. LOTR trilogy as a whole completely shit all over the prequel trilogy.
Prequels had big hype going in because of the original trilogy, not because they earned any of that on their own merits.
Fuck ya people that don't like the opening night crowd are not fun people. I loved the avengers experience and it's something I will remember fondly for my whole life. Shit was so EPIC!!!! While if I'm being honest I forgot my TROS experience 😂 That's coming from someone who puts the force awakens as there top five movies of all time
If you're seeing Endgame on opening night with that kind of crowd you'll be seeing it again in theatres later when it's quiet.
Plus odds are you'll be buying a Blu-ray and watching D+.
You'll have plenty of opportunities to watch it quietly and take apart every line of dialogue.
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I watched The Matrix Reloaded for the first time last week, and I almost wish I could've been in a theater for the Neo/Agent Smith fight. It's aged TERRIBLY, but I have to imagine crowds were losing their minds at the time.
No sarcasm, but what is the fan service in that scene? Is it something from the Infinity Gauntlet comic arc? Is it just when Black Panther and co casually walk out of the portal?
This just contrast so beautifully with my RoS experience where when the credits rolled exactly one person let out a yell and started applauding and then quickly let it die when they realized that literally no one else was joining in.
Ugh, I have to say I still get annoyed when people show up without their masks or take them off. Yeah, we know they're famous actors, Marvel Studios
I would find this incredibly jarring if not a bit annoying (though more in scenes where there's a lot of dialogue that will be missed over the crowd). I live in the UK and people cheering at Cap catching Mjolnir was about as animated as I've ever heard an audience get (and I didn't mind that at all).
In a way it also makes me wish I got excited about shit this much. I probably wouldn't react that excitedly even if someone told me I won $10 million.
In a way it also makes me wish I got excited about shit this much. I probably wouldn't react that excitedly even if someone told me I won $10 million.
The first Matrix, I don't know how to describe it but when Trinity kicked the cop back at the beginning the theater went dead silent like you could almost feel the "holy shit ... what is this?" response from the audience.
Really cool.
Oh of course.
On the other hand, I wonder if people's opinions on these Star Wars movies retroactively gets better without them comparing it to other movies of the time. Popular opinion on the prequels seems to have gotten a lot better, I doubt people are actually considering Lord of the Rings when they watch the prequels now. Same for Last Jedi, opinion on that seems to have improved over the past couple of years and I wonder if that has to do with not comparing it to the MCU so much anymore. Infinity War wasn't out yet but the trailer was and it was definitely in people's minds when they saw TLJ in theaters.
So that entire intro to the final battle was completely new just to get a rise out of the crowd? I read a lot of comics growing up, but that's one series I never read, so I honestly didn't know just how much it deviated from the source material.
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I might argue every second of Endgame after they enter the time machine is fanservice.
Titanic would be probably another theatrical moment I'll never forget, you could just hear many people sobbing and crying openly like during the scene where they show the frozen dead bodies.
And this was a regular middle of the week showing, lol. Never, ever seen anything like that since then.
And this was a regular middle of the week showing, lol. Never, ever seen anything like that since then.
In the free country of The United States of America, it is a citizens duty to have many clapping sessions a day. From when we sing our pledge of allegiance in the morning, to when we finish our cheeseburger at the end of a hard working day of freedom.
To be fair, that moment was paying off over a decade of 20+ films compared to a trilogy. Yeah, many movies have those applause moments but there's just nothing really like that moment in cinematic history. That being said, Disney rushed SW out the door to quickly capitalize on their investment and it shows.