Hopefully this is real, the more people buying FF Pixel Collection, FFXVI, FFVII Remake and FFVII Rebirth the better imo. They are fantastic games.
[The Xbox Two] Jez heard "the whole slate" of Final Fantasy (Pixel Remastered, XVI, VII R) is coming to Xbox
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Possibly. They've announced Yakuza games and Persona on Game Pass at TGS in the past I believe. I think they'll announce a bunch of mainline titles coming to Game Pass immediately (VII, VIII Remastered, IX, X/X-2 HD Remaster etc.) with the Pixel Renasters and XVI coming in 2025.
Xbox - We have a very competitive console platform!
SquareEnix - Eh, sorry, Sony got the games.
Xbox - We no longer care about the console.
SquareEnix - TAKE ALL OF THE GAMES!
Mmmmmh.
SquareEnix - Eh, sorry, Sony got the games.
Xbox - We no longer care about the console.
SquareEnix - TAKE ALL OF THE GAMES!
Mmmmmh.
Game pass would actually make perfect sense. Surely sales have stagnated to the point that they should absolutely take that game pass bag from Microsoft.
I mean I think Square probably wants to actually sell copies of their games. Which is why I think Switch 2 will probably be the main focus of the widening of their multiplatform initiative and Xbox will be more of a side effect of the opening-up rather than the core focus.
Putting a bunch of games on Game Pass day one just means you're effectively surrendering any future of selling meaningful amounts of copies of that game on that platform. And considering the unit sales for some of Square's recent releases have been underwhelming, to say the least, I would imagine they want to pump those numbers up with their ports. Game Pass doesn't really help with that, they need that full-price Switch 2 version to make it work.
They need to post it to feel better that they might lose their exclusive toy.
Yes they do. The drive by posts help fill the emptiness inside!
I would 100% be down for FF16 on GamePass or discount.
I played Remake on PS4, but haven't gotten to Rebirth yet. I'd only wanna jump into Remake again if it were announced alongside its sequels
Oh I didn't mean day one for new titles. I mean just for the existing titles. Like, do we honestly think that the games will sell enough on Xbox to be worth it this late in the game for those titles? Taking that game pass bag up front and then list future titles full price.
Could always split it up too. Full price for 7 and 16 but pixel remasters on game pass.
That's good, though I guess Rebirth (and the eventual FF7R-3) will have to wait quite a bit more.
Suppose they could renegotiate with Sony, the best scenario would be to get Rebirth out on PC and Xbox before part 3 comes out, and then have simultaneous release of part 3 on all platforms.
But I'm not sure how possible that is.
Suppose they could renegotiate with Sony, the best scenario would be to get Rebirth out on PC and Xbox before part 3 comes out, and then have simultaneous release of part 3 on all platforms.
But I'm not sure how possible that is.
I even mean for the existing titles. I think Square would like to sell more copies of XVI and the VII Remakes so they can point out to their investors how much unit growth they've generated with the ports. Like I said, this is just why I think Switch 2 will be their priority platform and the one they really push.
The Xbox ports should probably launch as full price titles as well and only go to Game Pass after their sales potential on XB has been exhausted. Otherwise they're spending a lot of money on ports that will basically only generate a single check from Xbox, and from what we've been hearing, Microsoft's Game Pass checks have been getting smaller and less lucrative as time goes on and GP's growth has stagnated.
I could buy the Pixel Remasters launching on GP, though. Just not XVI and the VIIRs.
I stand corrected. I imagine it was coming and got cancelled tho (i think we even heard about that). Like i pointed out in an earlier post with a bunch of stuff he (correctly) leaked, he's mostly solid tho.
I 100% expect the first remake (not rebirth) to be on Game Pass at launch. Would be insane not to do it.
An interesting thing to think about in this context, when people say, "why are they bothering with Xbox? we know these games/late ports sell really poorly", there is some truth to that -- but a consideration for larger publishers like SE is that we are moving ever-closer to a new console generation, and market share can flip and twist and do wild things in a generation switch. Something more companies are thinking about more often is trying to build libraries that will move across generations. So in a sense, there's an argument for having something like FF16 or the Pixel Remasters in the Xbox ecosystem so they can carry forward to what they do next - and if what they do next is a hit, all your games are already there. So while this generation is indeed a bit of a write-off, that's totally a factor as well.
I will say that in this era, friends who actually work on SE games were laughing at the stuff Midori was putting out. Like gleefully cackling at it. Midori obviously was/is incredibly well-sourced directly with someone at Sega, that much is obvious. But I always got the impression their SE stuff was just speculative guesswork mingled with stuff 'heard on the grapevine', which was ofc widely unsourced and not all that accurate.
Have you heard anything on Rebirth coming to other platforms? Or is that still a mystery atm?
Xbox have been hyping their TGS show a lot, so it might be some truth on that.
FFXVI is almost certain at this point.
FFXVI is almost certain at this point.
This is great to hear. I'm not holding my breath, but it's really just the pixel collection I'm after. I honestly don't know that I care about 7 remastered or 16 all that much anymore.
The fuck is Midori still being mentioned for? Lol
Basically an insurance plan.
Basically an insurance plan.
I could see the Pixel remasters and FFXVI getting announced this year (though 16 might not come out until next year if it took SE 18 months for the PC version). The 7 Remake games I'm iffy about. It's been years since Remake and there's been nothing besides a PC port.
I think that was "I was meant to be a hero" or an user similar to that
It helps the brand, you can see both mainline FF games have suffered due to Sony exclusivity, its not helping the game or brand so releasing everywhere, especially PC is the goal, Xbox is a bonus. From Software , Capcom and Sega have seen new highs for their I.Ps by taking this approach, and we had the ex-Square exec stating releasing everywhere isn't specifically about individual platform sales but making as much noise as possible upon release which feeds into more sales for all and healthier outlook for the brand, exclusivity is looking like bad business for large I.Ps. Personally I think were going to see publishers less willing to do this, the short term injection of cash doesn't outweigh the loss in awareness for the I.P and truncated sales.
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People say crap like that are being console warriors imo because why would they actually care about the sales, it's coming to more platforms that's a good thing and I can't see why anyone would downplay it or look down on it. They can't sell less copies if it comes to more platforms so the logic is funny. Sega brought a bunch of their games to Xbox despite this "they won't sell much" chitchat. Can't grow up if you limit it to one platform we've all been saying this, why limit your entire IP to a single platform when you're a publisher and can spread it across multiple. I think most if not all publishers will stop any sort of exclusive deals like in the past.
Why would you not want to release on PC, Switch, Xbox, PS all at once with marketing being more effective as there's more of an audience to market too.
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Kind of a side tangent, but with how long game development is these days. Could see a lot of companies really preferring the idea of BC now (even the platform holders themselves). As being able to have an entire library on offer saves a lot of time and some titles as we've seen basically sell forever
He has legit Sega/Atlus info from the past few years, but anything past that isn't really worth consideration.
I'd like to see a FFVII Remake 'complete edition' in..let's say 2028 (?) on Xbox with all three entries reworked to be one continuous progression throughout with reworked leveling (lvl 200 cap?) and maybe some of the fluff quests removed. I'll buy it at a high price.
This would be such an absurd chore to get through that I think players would hate it. None of these games were really designed thoughtfully about being "fused" together into a continuous experience - you'd be looking at a 300+ hour long game and trying to tell a coherent story that doesn't fatigue players to the point of exhaustion at that scale would be next to impossible. Even if you cut some of the sidequests, the MSQs of these games are still so long and drawn-out that stitching them together would feel like being forced to mainline an entire multi-season TV series run in one season.
I know why people think they want it, but I think that if they got it they would genuinely hate it and think the games were better split up.
I think this may eventually happen, but definitely not that soon. I can see it happening in the 2030's when it gets a big graphical update as well.
I don't see a massive bump in sales but probably a huge Game Pass hit for 7 Remake, Rebirth and 16.
The pixel titles are very niche and will continue to be a great addition but not to move thousands of units.
The pixel titles are very niche and will continue to be a great addition but not to move thousands of units.
