Geno might still be a possibility but that's about it I think.
I'm a bear shiller, of course Banjo makes it, moreso than any other character!
Geno might still be a possibility but that's about it I think.
Never give up on the bear and bird, that's a mortal sin.Are we still believing Geno, Shadow, Banjo, etc have a chance still?
Vergeben's going all in on Incineroar. He's also sticking to his guns on there being a new Square rep, though addresses the box theory and that the Square rep may be the first DLC fighter and not in the base roster.
Sora is DLC because they need money for how much he costed themVergeben's going all in on Incineroar. He's also sticking to his guns on there being a new Square rep, though addresses the box theory and that the Square rep may be the first DLC fighter and not in the base roster.
Apart from Richter, who was an echo of the character just announced, all echoes have been shown outside of trailers. So unless you think Ken is unique/semi clone, I doubt he'd be in Incineroar's trailer. Now if you predicted Glass Joe, as a semi clone of Little Mac, being Incineroar's opponent I would have backed this 100%!
In case anyone is curious. I am at the Chicago Best Buy Smash event, 4th in line. The store opens in 3 hours and the event starts in 4 hours. The line is already to the end of the building. One guy here also came yesterday and he said the line went down the block and was at one point a 4 hour wait.
The only reason we're doubting it is because there's no room on the box, and no clear reason now to put Shadow on the boxI haven't been following the discussions over the last few weeks but Shadow has always been seen as a "given"/"obvious" inclusion. I think some Sonic echo is possible.
Gonna pelvic thrust his way to victoryVergeben's going all in on Incineroar. He's also sticking to his guns on there being a new Square rep, though addresses the box theory and that the Square rep may be the first DLC fighter and not in the base roster.
IMO the bad side of "everything is here" is that it will take preference over representing new games via stages/newcomers.
The fact that we have 1 new stage from a really recent game (Odyssey), another new stage from a cross-platform game (Zelda BotW) makes me think that Nintendo wanted to have at least some representation of Switch games in Ultimate, but maybe the WiiU will end up underrepresented (DKC: TF, TW101, XCX, Captain Toad)... As I've said I expect a stagre from at least 3 of these 4 games, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.
The only reason we're doubting it is because there's no room on the box, and no clear reason now to put Shadow on the box
Something I was thinking about recently - what are the odds the DLC stays paid, or if they'll shift it to a free model similar to Splatoon and ARMS? From Nintendo's POV, they will doubtless be leaving lots of money at the table with the former, but the 2 aforementioned games together with Mario Tennis and Kirby seems to have set a precedent for the latter - with only major updates such as Octo Expansion or Xenoblade 2's Torna being locked behind a paywall. More than likely Nintendo will see backlash if they charge - on top of the Online service as well which is now needed to play smash over the internetDLC will likely be a big part of this game. They are making a great starting point at least.
Something I was thinking about recently - what are the odds the DLC stays paid, or if they'll shift it to a free model similar to Splatoon and ARMS? From Nintendo's POV, they will doubtless be leaving lots of money at the table with the former, but the 2 aforementioned games together with Mario Tennis and Kirby seems to have set a precedent for the latter - with only major updates such as Octo Expansion or Xenoblade 2's Torna being locked behind a paywall. More than likely Nintendo will see backlash if they charge - on top of the Online service as well which is now needed to play smash over the internet
What do you guys think? Will they still charge for new characters?
Why did you answer your own question in the same post?Why is Shadow wanted more than Tails as an echo? Shadow is an edgelord and tails is the OG bro.
The music.Why is Shadow wanted more than Tails as an echo? Shadow is an edgelord and tails is the OG bro.
I mean, I totally expect it, but it would definitely stick out unfavourably compared to their DLC model for most of their games this gen
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I mean, I totally expect it, but it would definitely stick out unfavourably compared to their DLC model for most of their games this gen
Well Splatoon 2 and ARMS started with a really small amount of content, with the promise of future content released periodically. Smash on the other hand will be released with a ton of content, they don't need to promise anything.Something I was thinking about recently - what are the odds the DLC stays paid, or if they'll shift it to a free model similar to Splatoon and ARMS? From Nintendo's POV, they will doubtless be leaving lots of money at the table with the former, but the 2 aforementioned games together with Mario Tennis and Kirby seems to have set a precedent for the latter - with only major updates such as Octo Expansion or Xenoblade 2's Torna being locked behind a paywall. More than likely Nintendo will see backlash if they charge - on top of the Online service as well which is now needed to play smash over the internet
What do you guys think? Will they still charge for new characters?
Shadow is popular with the current Sonic fanbase. Also Shadow would be much easier to develop as an echo of Sonic than Tails. It's not necessarily about who's the most wanted, but who's the most likely.Why is Shadow wanted more than Tails as an echo? Shadow is an edgelord and tails is the OG bro.
It does seem odd that Vergeban only knows of two more characters for sure in the base roster. If we really are only getting Insineroar and Ken I can't for the life of me understand why they blew their character load in the last Smash direct. I still think they're going to have more than two left.
I'd argue a similar amount of money and effort goes into developing and balancing new Splatoon weapons, gear, stages, modes, etc... or new ARMS characters, for example. But you're right in mentioning that Smash has way, WAY more content off the bat than those games.Considering the massive amount of content that Smash Ultimate is launching with and the large amount of money that goes into developing DLC characters for Smash, I 100% disagree. I don't think anyone sensible would complain if Nintendo charged money for Smash DLC, which they definitely will. I will say though, that they could do some kind of Mewtwo thing where the release one or two characters somewhat shortly after launch free of charge, but I wouldn't count on it.
Vergeben's going all in on Incineroar. He's also sticking to his guns on there being a new Square rep, though addresses the box theory and that the Square rep may be the first DLC fighter and not in the base roster.
Perhaps the spirits mode is going to be a lot more in depth then were anticipating and the final smash direct is gonna largely focus on it with incineroar/ken as the final 2 cherries. If we believe vergeben maybe they end with a "sora/geno is coming" dlc announcement like mewtwo.
Yes, but when you buy Splatoon 2 or ARMS you know that the small amount of content will be fixed with time, you're investing in somewhat that will come in a future time. For what Sakurai said about Smash, and what Nintendo showed us, that's not the case for Smash.I'd argue a similar amount of money and effort goes into developing and balancing new Splatoon weapons, gear, stages, modes, etc... or new ARMS characters, for example
Nah, Sakurai is all about keeping the characters true to their games (except, ahem, Ganondorf perhaps). Ken is 100% going to be an echo
If the SE rep is DLC there's no way in hell it's Geno, I can't see him selling well. Then again Roy was DLC so you never know.
Something I was thinking about recently - what are the odds the DLC stays paid, or if they'll shift it to a free model similar to Splatoon and ARMS? From Nintendo's POV, they will doubtless be leaving lots of money at the table with the former, but the 2 aforementioned games together with Mario Tennis and Kirby seems to have set a precedent for the latter - with only major updates such as Octo Expansion or Xenoblade 2's Torna being locked behind a paywall. More than likely Nintendo will see backlash if they charge - on top of the Online service as well which is now needed to play smash over the internet
What do you guys think? Will they still charge for new characters?
Shadow is popular with the current Sonic fanbase. Also Shadow would be much easier to develop as an echo of Sonic than Tails. It's not necessarily about who's the most wanted, but who's the most likely.
Why is Shadow wanted more than Tails as an echo? Shadow is an edgelord and tails is the OG bro.
That many new stages would certainly put just Incineroar being left into question
Unless he decides to add Ken's stage or a lot of stages for series without fighters, but that would be a bit weird priorities to go for non fighter stages before fighter stages