I remember someone arguing in other thread that Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame made past 1B due to Spider-Man, so maybe...?
I don't really think Sony needs defending. I thought Venom was a garbage movie, which brings me to my point that just because a movie makes a ton of money doesn't mean it's good. Just something I've noticed on this forum that a lot of posters are obsessed with the money Disney makes. Why?
Sony and Disney drama draws all crowds of Spider-Man fans. When one side declares Sony screws up because Marvel makes the best Spider-Man films then there is backlash. MCU fans never really did any of that in Spider-Verse OT threads because, well, c'mon, even they cannot deny its quality. FFH still draws in the Spider-Verse crowd because it's a Spider-Man film. When a fandom starts saying the things they fan over are the best, it's going to draw contention. I think this is the hubris of the MCU fandom where everything else isn't as good and that is at odds with the film world in general.
Calling it now: Eternals and Shang Chi will both hit a billion and make more than FFH.
I don't think even the MCU fandom can create an argument for why Spiderverse is bad Spider-Man movie or a bad movie in general. See, this is where you're blinded: you think the MCU fandom does zero wrong in how their approach voicing their supporting / critical reviews of the MCU films. Imagine if a professional reviewer said, hmm, that Aliens 3 is actually the best of the series. Do you think there would be zero contention with that? Probably not. The point is how you vocalize your impression of a film can be a point of contention especially if you declare it as the best. First look Twitter impressions, IMO, have fueled this a lot.
There was an article from one of the major news sites iirc that claimed Rothman felt they'd learned everything they could on how to make good movies from Feige and the MCU, so in a sense yeah, that seemed to partially be the reason. Especially after Venom's box office take probably emboldened them.
Another blind and stupid take. Monopoly is never good for the end consumer.
You're not entirely wrong, it's kinda strange how the whole commentary of Winter Solider is how wrong it was to have the technology to eliminate anyone from anywhere on earth decided by the few, by the point of FFH though? Fuck all of that! A teenager deserves the responsibility!
On further thought, seeing as Black Widow is a prequel happening after the events of Civil War, it would not surprise me to see Captain America in that film in a small supporting role...that one could get close to $1B too.
But some people like it. Probably was good to them. Or at least that amazing Eminem chorus :v
Well with a degree in Economics and Finance, I think I know what I'm talking about when it come to a Monopoly, not sure about you though.
Yeah, this hurts Sony more in the long Run. Sony have shown they're incapable of making a hit like Marvel. Marvels future lineup is filled with new characters for this very specific reason as well anyone who thinks it's a lineup full of nobodies therefore Disney is in a worse position is just ignoring reality when they're in a far comfortable position not being reliant on a single character to produce a hit. Spider-verse was a great film but couldn't even beat Ant-man and wasp in the box office so Sony are stuck in a position where they produce bad live actions or high quality animated films that don't perform well in box office.
lord and miller currentl;y having nothing to do with live action spiderman movies
Ok, so the deal expired but this still means that it was Disney who made new demands. To frame it as "Sony chose to take Spiderman out of the mcu" feels kind of wrong.
It's a half-and-half situation business-wise.
Because it's Sony who didn't push further for a better deal (for them). They went full Tom Rothman with what they got right now, and it's gonna be a loss for them in the long run.
