Ukraine has some of the best rations by comparison. Steve was very impressed.
You know, as meals go...I've made worse.
Ukraine has some of the best rations by comparison. Steve was very impressed.
Can't speak for others, and I definitely don't opine to think I'm super knowledgeable (because I've had questions in this very thread too), but personally speaking I've always been very interested in world history, geopolitics around the world, different cultures, past conflicts, military history and tech so I feel more comfortable talking about these things I guess.Not gonna lie, reading this thread makes me feel like I'm the only clueless person in here. Everyone seems so much more knowledgeable about war, history, etc. than I am.
That being said, I really appreciate all the explanations I've read so far.
From previous evidence, if they knock out the first couple and then a few random ones in places, the Russian conscripts bug out and run from the rest.
No they don't, 200,000 soldiers in a country of 40 million is a ratio of 3 soldiers per 1000 people. Completely impossible to hold a country like that. As NATO officials have pointed out numerous times
who takes his places as a rusain puppet? its a literal death sentenceObviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now. You would need a multiplier of like 30 for a full country occupation, but I don't think they would go that route, Bifurcate Kyiv and points east, force Zelensky to resign.
The collateral damage from the war continues. People in the UK are going to have to make do without comparethemeerkat adverts
Comparethemarket pulls meerkat ads from TV news after Ukraine invasion
Site says fictional Russian billionaire Aleksandr Orlov has ‘no association with the current situation’www.theguardian.com
For those not in the UK these are adverts for a price comparison website that has an annoying meerkat talking like a Russian (you know typical stereotyping). IT has been pulled from the airwaves after nearly a bloody decade of "simples" and all it took was a war in Europe to do it.
It's like the win condition of the Russians hasn't been updated since their initial objectives (force a surrender after seizing limited gains from the south, east, and northwest) failed. Obviously their objective was Kyiv.
Obviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now. You would need a multiplier of like 30 for a full country occupation, but I don't think they would go that route, Bifurcate Kyiv and points east, force Zelensky to resign.
They don't have the capability to deploy 700k. And even if they did, most of them would be untrained conscripts that would get eaten alive by insurgents.Obviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now. You would need a multiplier of like 30 for a full country occupation, but I don't think they would go that route, Bifurcate Kyiv and points east, force Zelensky to resign.
I think the weeks is based off what would normally happen but I have a feeling Putin isn't that patient. Plus that whole flank is exposed to Western attacks with little ability to interdict with their current posture for a slow encirclement.Yeah, we're looking at Stalingrad but with better motivated, supplied, equipped, trained defenders. That's why the U.S. senator posted earlier was talking in a timeframe of weeks.
Obviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now.
Do we actually have confirmation that it was cluster munitions? I know people have said it, but I haven't really heard high level confirmation of something that would be pretty big news. Are we sure it wasn't just ("just") MLRS rockets. Still a war crime, being aimed at residential centers. But. Just checking.In Kharkiv there was a terrible rocket barrage directly into the city using cluster munitions which killed and maimed several civilians.
Kyiv seems to have been quieter than previous nights, some nearby missile strikes earlier. An enormous Russian column is growing and slowly moving closer to the capital.
Deploying 700k to hold Ukraine also isn't viable. The things they are gonna have to do to even take Kyiv or Zelensky is also a nightmare for them. If they kill him he's a martyr and your assuming they can even make him resign if they capture himObviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now. You would need a multiplier of like 30 for a full country occupation, but I don't think they would go that route, Bifurcate Kyiv and points east, force Zelensky to resign.
Define win.
Also Kyiv is probably the most heavily defended city we've seen in modern times when it comes to an attack. The battle would be unprecedented if it were to occur as a straight attack.
multiple pictures of SMERCH cluster pods around the city
Next several weeks.... 😬
Do we actually have confirmation that it was cluster munitions? I know people have said it, but I haven't really heard high level confirmation of something that would be pretty big news. Are we sure it wasn't just ("just") MLRS rockets. Still a war crime, being aimed at residential centers. But. Just checking.
Define win.
Also Kyiv is probably the most heavily defended city we've seen in modern times when it comes to an attack. The battle would be unprecedented if it were to occur as a straight attack.
Deploying 700k to hold Ukraine also isn't viable. The things they are gonna have to do to even take Kyiv or Zelensky is also a nightmare for them. If they kill him he's a martyr and your assuming they can even make him resign if they capture him
I would love it too. So far though most tagged aren't even acknowleding it, they just keep carrying on as if nothing happened. Many that state in their profile they work for RT haven't even been tagged yet, but they are afraid it is coming so they are telling people to follow them in other places. I won't shit up the thread but if you want to dig into that hole on twitter it won't take you too long to see the name "Tara Reade" come up.could i just get a compilation of all the russian state-affiliated media people complaining about being labeled russian state-affiliated media
I'm not sure it will be accurate or given to real people. Russia is a dictatorship so data manipulation and concealment is the name of the game.Is there a poll concerning how Russian citizens feel about what's going on? I was under the impression that Putin - prior to the invasion - had lost support, and many just aren't buying what he's selling.
It's suicideWhen is an inner circle person to Putin going to say enough of this and take one for the team?
You know, the really long table is to make it more likely that if his generals would miss if they suddenly pulled out a gun to shoot him.
Gotcha ok. I didn't put those two together.
While the gif is entertaining, Putin's rise came because of Yeltsin iirc. Like Yeltsin handpicked him.
There's a huge column of troops slowly heading towards Kiev. It looks a lot more deliberate this time and Kiev likely is going to suffer :(.Wow, that's embarrassing for russia. Without Russia's nuclear warheads there military would be seen as a straight joke to the world. Ukraine is giving them hell every day, I hope they can hold on.
Next several weeks.... 😬
Do we actually have confirmation that it was cluster munitions? I know people have said it, but I haven't really heard high level confirmation of something that would be pretty big news. Are we sure it wasn't just ("just") MLRS rockets. Still a war crime, being aimed at residential centers. But. Just checking.
Killing him is honestly a terrible idea, he's become both a national and global hero in less then a week. Ukraine's people are already fighting viciously, killing there now beloved leader would radicalize them even more against Russia.Really, their only way out of this mess is to go all in on killing Zelensky, then withdraw to the east and say "job done, we removed the evil leader and secured the eastern territories"
But that's not going to happen as Putin has now been given a slap in the face, and will lose his shit in an attempt to destroy the entire country
Then the next head will want to make an example for treason?Not if they reach the point of no return and collectively call it what it is. One guy who the west wants gone.
It's not guaranteed but the ingredients are there, historically speaking
Killing him is honestly a terrible idea, he's become both a national and global hero in less then a week. Ukraine's people are already fighting viciously, killing there now beloved leader would radicalize them even more against Russia.
Yeah if I were them I'd be up ahead on that road taking out bridges, felling trees over it, IEDs… whatever they can do.So with all this talk of this big armored column bearing down on Kyiv.... isn't that kind of a bad idea, tactically? I mean, is it literally just a big convoy of armored vehicles going down one single road? Or is it spread out a bit? Just seems like an awfully big target bunching up that way. Would hope that the Ukrainians have IEDs and booby traps all along that route if it is just one primary road.
That's another thing I haven't heard much talk about- the weather. I mean, its late February/ early March, which would almost seem like some of the worst time to be moving heavy armor around, especially if the roads get fucked up from combat/ disabled vehicles. Are the tanks/APCs/ vehicles all going to go off road? This kind of late winter/early spring weather would seem bad for that since the ground probably isn't frozen hard and its probably just a muddy mess. Which again would seem like a golden opportunity for the Ukrainians to pick off this convoy if they do end up getting slowed down by the terrain at all.
Wouldn't be surprised if some oligarchs are trying to court Gerasimov. I agree with the general conclusion: once there's a critical mass of moneyed interests affected, they just need a gun to pull the trigger. Who the gun will eventually be, I'm not sure. But surely they're thinking it — and surely Putin knows this. The publicly released intelligence says as much (and will only serve to heighten his paranoia).It doesn't have to be one particular person who 'retires' him. And who is to say he doesn't have an accident, a health incident, or something along those lines? At a certain money threshold Putin ceases to be worth the trouble. Russia has never been pushed anywhere near there before but now they will be. If guys start getting assets seized then it makes sense for Mogilevich et al to throw in with someone else and make the sacrifice.
There's probably a reason this convoy keeps getting longer while not moving much. It must be a logistical nightmare.So with all this talk of this big armored column bearing down on Kyiv.... isn't that kind of a bad idea, tactically? I mean, is it literally just a big convoy of armored vehicles going down one single road? Or is it spread out a bit? Just seems like an awfully big target bunching up that way. Would hope that the Ukrainians have IEDs and booby traps all along that route if it is just one primary road.
That's another thing I haven't heard much talk about- the weather. I mean, its late February/ early March, which would almost seem like some of the worst time to be moving heavy armor around, especially if the roads get fucked up from combat/ disabled vehicles. Are the tanks/APCs/ vehicles all going to go off road? This kind of late winter/early spring weather would seem bad for that since the ground probably isn't frozen hard and its probably just a muddy mess. Which again would seem like a golden opportunity for the Ukrainians to pick off this convoy if they do end up getting slowed down by the terrain at all.
my thing was exclusively about the nukesThese psychological analyses of leaders filtered through the media always feels a bit salacious and a bit like a game of telephone. We've been hearing about his mental state of years, so I just sort of treat it like high school gossip.
Fair enough, but I don't think its useful to put people in a box and disregard what they say. There's a lot of truth to the historical greivance angle and Putin's attempt to remake the world order.
About the convoy, couldn't they just destroy a huge part of the road ahead to prevent it from moving forward?
Yes. But the further it moves inland, the further it is from friendly AA/radar installations. The deeper it goes, the more supplies have been consumed, the more distance must be traveled to get out.
You laugh, but there are rumors that Chinas military is trying to do that: develop bio weapons based on ethnicity or other key factors. One of the reasons why they import so much DNA data from those "find out your heritage" scams, while they heavily restrict the export of Chinese data. They are heavily investing in that area.A bioweapon that only kills Russians, you really can't make this shit up lmao
I heard how they have no air support and are just asking for trouble. Is that actually true? I thought Russia dominated the air space rather quickly in the first 2 days?
I don't believe for a second that they have 700k more troops that they could effectively bring to this fight. They might have reserves, people with some military training that they could hand a rifle, but they'd be little better than the conscripts they've sent so far. On top of that, supplying and feeding the forces they already have had been a nightmare for them…now triple that.Obviously not with 200k. Russia has the capability to deploy close to 700k right now. You would need a multiplier of like 30 for a full country occupation, but I don't think they would go that route, Bifurcate Kyiv and points east, force Zelensky to resign.
I fully believe that once Zelensky made the decision to stay in Kyiv, the actual governmental administration and military command and control moved to Lviv, maybe even prior to the invasion. Taking Kyiv would be an important symbolic victory for the Russians, but wouldn't spell the end of Ukraine or the end of this war if the Russians are intent on taking the entire country.Curious how Lviv plays into this if Kyiv is taken. Should be the secondary capitol and have secondary command, and could also present a counterattack with the right equipment, although defending always has the advantage so probably not feasible. Just a mess.
Find out your heritage companies are a scam?!More and more horrifying videos are emerging. Kids are dying because Putin was bored.
I heard how they have no air support and are just asking for trouble. Is that actually true? I thought Russia dominated the air space rather quickly in the first 2 days?
You laugh, but there are rumors that Chinas military is trying to do that: develop bio weapons based on ethnicity or other key factors. One of the reasons why they import so much DNA data from those "find out your heritage" scams, while they heavily restrict the export of Chinese data. They are heavily investing in that area.