Russia almost certainly can't afford to deploy 700k in a long term occupation, even if they're mostly conscripts.
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Russia almost certainly can't afford to deploy 700k in a long term occupation, even if they're mostly conscripts.
Agreed, trying to turn the entire convoy around would be an absolute nightmare, the highway isn't particularly wide and the convoy is 60 KILOMETRES LONG. That said, with that many vehicles and the convoy moving at snail's pace and them betting all of their chips on this play, I guess that the Russians are doing their darnest to prevent any ambushes from happening with escorts and make the convoy as tough to attack as possible. But the Ukrainians would be mad not to take a shot at it eventually.
It's probably well covered with anti air unfortunately, because there's probably some A-10 pilots out there salivating. Some brave Ukrainians with Javelins or other anti tank weapons to take out a few of the vehicles in the lead and and middle. Or placing some type of mine or remotely detonated explosives ahead of the convoy on the road could really slow them down too. I don't think you destroy the whole thing honestly, you turn it into an even bigger logistical nightmare than it already is.
Edit: Thought convoy was still in Russia, but it is not. Sorry!
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Sadly I think at some point soon there will be a concerted effort to greatly reduce those numbers ala Syria. Create diaspora of 10-20 million people, plus kill millions and then offer free land to Russians, splitting the land with the Belarusians. All he really cares about is the land, its resources and pushing his borders futher from Moscow.
Oh the convoy is still in Russia?? I thought it was in Ukraine for some reason. Been wondering why it hasn't been taken out yet. Wish they had an A10 or AC130 for this
And if they're mostly conscripts, they'll be fragging their own officers and deserting en masse within a couple weeks.
Wait? If this happens? Could that mean Russia's threat of cutting power is another empty one?
Last I heard it's gotten bigger, but still in Russia. If I'm wrong I'll edit that part out. Probably still covered by AA though
Edit: Not in Russia
For some reason I thought it was in Ukraine. There was an article some pages back saying it is now 40 miles long (which is insane).
The convoy is in Ukraine.
Vast Russian army convoy spotted north of Kyiv
A huge Russian military convoy stretching some 40 miles was spotted Monday by a US satellite imaging company just north of the Ukrainian capital Kyiv, which has already repulsed several assaults.
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As exciting as it is to see the "good guys" sticking it to Russia, we all need to be prepared for a likely outcome: weeks-long fighting for Kyiv ending with the loss of independence, followed by months or years of insurgency, all resulting in millions of refugees and tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths.
This is horrific to even think about, but say Russia takes control of Ukraine, and Putin just keeps killing civilians out of pure spite because he has a bruised ego, would NATO still just sit by as he murders potentially thousands or even tens of thousands of innocent people?
It is in Ukraine. It was reported to be about 20 miles north of Antonov Airport earlier today so probably a bit closer now.
It only becomes likely when Russian forces demonstrate an ability to overwhelm and rout forces in areas UA has chosen to defend. So far they haven't. Kyiv somehow being pacified in weeks (would be one of the greatest military accomplishments of the last 100 years) doesn't magically end things either.
Given how the world has reacted to genocides taking place to non white people, you can be guaranteed the west will step in with just more than sanctions.
probably. it wouldn't be the only country with human rights violations that nato's ignored.
my very limited understanding is that nato is a strategic alliance. it's not a peacekeeping entity. what you might be thinking of is whether or not the united nations would send some kind of peacekeeping force.
Yes, sadly. It wouldn't be the first time and the West doesn't want to start WW3.
again we cant directly interfere b/c it would be ww3 and nuclear holocaust. that being said, the worse the atrocities the harder it makes for removel as sections that if it stays in place will likely couse Russia to collapse.
I don't think that can be or will be ignored , the way the invasion has played out makes sure it won't be.
I also don't think the Russians have the appetite to take over and occupy the whole country. They're probably trying to get their original objectives achieved and hope they get the rest of what they want via negotiations.
Escalation at this point would be a stalemate, an easy out, and ensure Putin gets the vast majority of what he wants. That's why NATO isn't saying shit. It's all the EU.
Ah, you're right. I was just wondering if such a scenario might actually cause any outside forces to actually intervene. Sounds like the answer is no.
Yeah, I don't think anyone knows what that is...
Really think they thought Ukraine would just surrender and they would move on. Once that didn't occur, they continued following the same gameplan which is to invade Kyiv to put in a new Government...that the General Staff has to know now is impossible. But Putin doesn't want to change course.
It needs to be repeated that Russia does not have the money and resources to invade and occupy Ukraine indefinitely, and that was before the entire planet united over the last week to tank their economy. Ukraine is a large country with 44 million people, Russia simply cannot control that much territory with less than 200,000 troops. Factor in the majority of those 44 million are determined to fuck with Russia's forces as much as humanly possible, and you make it even more of an impossible task.
We're in completely uncharted territory here. Nobody thought NATO, the EU and US would react anywhere nearly as strongly as they have in the last 4-5 days. No one has any idea how much further this will escalate on either side.
We're in completely uncharted territory here. Nobody thought NATO, the EU and US would react anywhere nearly as strongly as they have in the last 4-5 days. No one has any idea how much further this will escalate on either side.
I saw a tweet response to this earlier but can't find it now but it said basically
"this coming from the guy that said in 2020 Trump would win reelection, Trump would face multiple assassination attempts, and a meteor would kill everybody"
What a ghoul.
Hopefully, there is an afterlife, and Pat can discuss it together with Vlad there.
Retirement? Dude came out of the grave. Jesus. What a god damn ghoul
I just cannot see any realistic "win" scenarios for Putin here. Both in terms of Ukraine and Russia's place in the entire realm of global security for decades to come.
The more I think about it the more it looks like one of the biggest strategic errors imaginable.
The more I think about it the more it looks like one of the biggest strategic errors imaginable.
I get that but, when a place like Kharkov gets destroyed, thousand of civilian deaths,... And then they turn to Kyiv. There's going to be a demand to do something.
They want to die so bad. Fucking die then you miserable sacks of shit.
Man… kinda scary that it hasn't been hit yet (or at least publicly)
Surely if God really existed, they could've made something more useful and pleasing out of that pile of bones and flesh than that thing.
will be a real sign of the end times when they get that teleportation device to move the fight to israel
we are, we are sending billions in very good anti tank/air weapons.
Jesus, my folks used to watch this nutjob when I was a kid. Shut the fuck up, you old ghoul.
I think that was always an outcome that many people expected from the get go, but the past several days has shown that things aren't always a foregone conclusion. The West has rallied support in a way that wasn't anticipated, and there's a good chance that public awareness will last longer than the current news cycle.
I believe. (And donate)
