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Crow

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I only upgrade my PC every 6-7 years so i think i'm gonna go with a 3090 to retire my 980. I couldn't justify buying a 1.3k card every 2-3 years.
Hey, we're in a similar situation! I'm upgrading from a 6700k + 980ti. Maybe I should treat myself since it's been a long time since I've upgraded.

Back aboard the 3090 Train!

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It looks much better with off.
 

Csr

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Do we know when benchmarks will start appearing?

I hope they find a way to enable DLSS for all games, i know it is not likely.
 

Jimrpg

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wouldn't be surprised. if the 3090 is replacing Titan then it could be close to $3,000. here the Titan is £2,500 or ~£2,000 if you don't include the 20% tax. that'd be ~$2,700 without tax.

I meant it as a joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if Jensen threw that number out there before revealing the actual price of $1499-1999 just to make it 'look cheap' for a minute.
 

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How long to the event? Wanna pre-order the 3090 already. Was that leak about most people needing to upgrade their PSU true?
 

Jimrpg

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I only upgrade my PC every 6-7 years so i think i'm gonna go with a 3090 to retire my 980. I couldn't justify buying a 1.3k card every 2-3 years.


A lot of people I think are going to do this. Most people who have a mid tier card last time around are probably going to step up if they can.

There was another thread and about how expensive PCs were and everyone in that thread telling the OP to go buy a lower specced PC.

I think people are going to go up a tier because they enjoy this hobby so much and an extra few hundred dollars over 3-4 years is annoying but people are just going to shell out.
 

CvGz

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Thinking about holding onto my 2080 Ti and wait to see reporting on the thermals. My case (NZXT h510) is one hot box
 

DrDeckard

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Imagine Xbox back in 2012 not knowing revealing their price first would mean they would get undercut by $100 and lose the entire gen. Shows you that they were too confident or they just didn't care about tactics.

Oh, I mean I understand that side of it.

I don't really know where the fault lies this year, but I just wish one of them would go.

I don't really care now anyway, after today...all of my budget will probably be going towards PC hardware.
 

Jimrpg

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Oh, I mean I understand that side of it.

I don't really know where the fault lies this year, but I just wish one of them would go.

I don't really care now anyway, after today...all of my budget will probably be going towards PC hardware.

Sony should go first.

They should be locking these preorders in now while everyone is excited about the PS5. Especially after Halo Infinite tanked.
 

kami_sama

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One thing I thought about is that the AIBs won't use the reference pcb for these cards. Considering it's so strange and that it uses the 12-pin, most likely all pcbs are custom.
That fucks up watercooling for a lot of people.
 

Xando

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A lot of people I think are going to do this. Most people who have a mid tier card last time around are probably going to step up if they can.

There was another thread and about how expensive PCs were and everyone in that thread telling the OP to go buy a lower specced PC.

I think people are going to go up a tier because they enjoy this hobby so much and an extra few hundred dollars over 3-4 years is annoying but people are just going to shell out.
Yeah i mean if i calculate on atleast 6 years of usage that's like 233€ for me, If i think back to when i got my 980 i was straight out of university and making such a big upfront investment was a problem but nowadays i can afford it and since the PC is my primary source of gaming i'm willing to make that investment.
 

Falcon

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Sorry if some of this has been answered before but this thread is moving at the speed of fucking light. I just want to clear some things up so I'm ready when things go live.

1. So currently we're expecting the 3090 to be about $2200 more expensive than the 3080?
2. What's the expectation of this nvidia FE 3000 series generally? I thought you should always go with one of the partners (MSI, Gainward, Asus etc.)
3. Which AIB are you shooting for? I think I'm going for the 3080 and I know that generally MSI has a good reputation but are any of the cheaper brands decent?
4. Is there an expectation that AIB 3080's might have more VRAM? 10GB feels so low, or is that something that will only happen with a 3080TI or super?

Good luck to everyone in a few hours, I really hope I get one for our VR company, we're dying for an upgrade.
 

Tovarisc

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I'm personally disappointed if 3090 is less that 4999€, need that premium price to feel good about premium product.
 

Vimto

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For the love of god dont pre order $1000 cards blindly

Wait for benchmarks !
Wait for benchmarks !
Wait for benchmarks !
 

kami_sama

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Sorry if some of this has been answered before but this thread is moving at the speed of fucking light. I just want to clear some things up so I'm ready when things go live.

1. So currently we're expecting the 3090 to be about $2200 more expensive than the 3080?
2. What's the expectation of this nvidia FE 3000 series generally? I thought you should always go with one of the partners (MSI, Gainward, Asus etc.)
3. Which AIB are you shooting for? I think I'm going for the 3080 and I know that generally MSI has a good reputation but are any of the cheaper brands decent?
4. Is there an expectation that AIB 3080's might have more VRAM? 10GB feels so low, or is that something that will only happen with a 3080TI or super?

Good luck to everyone in a few hours, I really hope I get one for our VR company, we're dying for an upgrade.
1. No lol Everything points to much more expensive but not that much
2. The cooling solution is completely new, we have no idea. This time it seems AIBs have their cards ready, so it's gonna be quicker to compare them
3. 3080 Zotac, those cars are pretty, but ymmv
4. leaks point to yes, but there might be a huge increase in price, 10GB of GDDR6x is not cheap.
 

Tovarisc

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Sorry for the OOT post, but is Cyberpunk 2077 going to have several RTX features such as Control ? because I thought only RTX reflections had been confirmed ?

In June's hands-on event press was able to see options menu even when settings themselves were locked.

Game had
  • Ambient Occlusion
  • Diffuse Illumination
  • Reflections
  • Shadows
available as ray traced features, on top of that DLSS. Enable all of that and even with DLSS I would expect 2000 series to kneel at 1440p and above.
 

DrDeckard

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Sony should go first.

They should be locking these preorders in now while everyone is excited about the PS5. Especially after Halo Infinite tanked.

This is something I completely agree on, but it's probably not for this thread.

Just over 7 hours to go! I hope the 3090 isn't too insane on the price front....and insane on every other.
 

Readler

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A lot of people I think are going to do this. Most people who have a mid tier card last time around are probably going to step up if they can.

There was another thread and about how expensive PCs were and everyone in that thread telling the OP to go buy a lower specced PC.

I think people are going to go up a tier because they enjoy this hobby so much and an extra few hundred dollars over 3-4 years is annoying but people are just going to shell out.
I'm rocking a R9 280X from when I built my PC in 2014, which is really a 2012 card though.

I can't justify paying more than 1000-1200€ for an entire system (and that is with a good salary), so even the 3080 seems out of reach :/
 

brain_stew

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For the love of god dont pre order $1000 cards blindly

Wait for benchmarks !
Wait for benchmarks !
Wait for benchmarks !

It's not difficult to get a very good idea of performance from an event like this. Actual reviews very rarely reveal any major surprises in performance from a new GPU launch. If you need a card asap then you're going to need to get your order in before the reviews are released.
 

Edgar

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Sorry for the OOT post, but is Cyberpunk 2077 going to have several RTX features such as Control ? because I thought only RTX reflections had been confirmed ?
I only know the old info . Cyberpunk gonna have
Ray-traced ambient occlusion
Ray-traced diffuse illumination
Ray-traced reflections
Ray-traced shadows
Apparently they swapped diffuse illumination for RTX global illumination ?
 

Nooblet

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Sorry for the OOT post, but is Cyberpunk 2077 going to have several RTX features such as Control ? because I thought only RTX reflections had been confirmed ?
It's going to have a lot of them
Ray-traced ambient occlusion
Ray-traced diffuse illumination (I don't think this is the same as Global illumination, never seen this wording before, plus iirc AO happens naturally as part of GI if it was GI and it wouldn't need RTAO as a separate feature otherwise)
Ray-traced reflections
Ray-traced shadows
 

zephiross

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In June's hands-on event press was able to see options menu even when settings themselves were locked.

Game had
  • Ambient Occlusion
  • Diffuse Illumination
  • Reflections
  • Shadows
available as ray traced features, on top of that DLSS. Enable all of that and even with DLSS I would expect 2000 series to kneel at 1440p and above.
Awsome ! thanks. Gotta put that 3080 to good use (:

EDIT:

It's going to have a lot of them
Ray-traced ambient occlusion
Ray-traced diffuse illumination (I don't think this is the same as Global illumination, never seen this wording before)
Ray-traced reflections
Ray-traced shadows

They listed 4/5 different RTX features and DLSS, it's pretty comprehensive support similar to Control.

Ok thanks guys !
 

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i might just wait for the inevitable Super series. i really need to replace my TV/phone this year.
 

Edgar

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I think Control had the most RTX stuff and it was mighty impressive but metro exodus RTX GI was something else
 

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Just did some googling, I have a 750w PSU so should be good I guess?

Is a 6600k going to be a huge bottleneck for these cards or is OK? Benchmarks I'm looking at imply it should be fine but it's a 2015 CPU so I dunno how much of a bottleneck that would be....
 

laxu

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Sorry if some of this has been answered before but this thread is moving at the speed of fucking light. I just want to clear some things up so I'm ready when things go live.

1. So currently we're expecting the 3090 to be about $2200 more expensive than the 3080?
2. What's the expectation of this nvidia FE 3000 series generally? I thought you should always go with one of the partners (MSI, Gainward, Asus etc.)
3. Which AIB are you shooting for? I think I'm going for the 3080 and I know that generally MSI has a good reputation but are any of the cheaper brands decent?
4. Is there an expectation that AIB 3080's might have more VRAM? 10GB feels so low, or is that something that will only happen with a 3080TI or super?

Good luck to everyone in a few hours, I really hope I get one for our VR company, we're dying for an upgrade.

1. No, more like $600.
2. Turing FE was a good improvement over previous gens but was still missing things like fan off mode at idle and had lower power limits. With the beefy cooler seen in leaks the FE might be a beast this time around. I hope Nvidia puts it to par with good partner cards.
3. MSI Gaming Trio and ASUS Strix (or whatever they call them this time around) are safe bets, basically higher end models from these vendors. EVGA higher end models are popular for US folks due to the step up program and customer support.
4. No, not initially at least. We will very likely see Ti/Super cards that fit right between the models that are released first. When they get released is a whole another question but I would assume early next year at the earliest, next spring/summer even more likely.

By higher end models I mean the more expensive models, e.g for ASUS the lower end cards would be the reference design Duals and so on. The main practical difference is going to be the cooler, these are fine options if you plan to install a waterblock or AIO or Morpheus heatsink etc. The higher end models have coolers that can handle overclocking and are less noisy on load.
 
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