Well we can get this thread to 10k posts then.
At the rate this is going, I don't think we will be able.
I'm doing my part!
Sorry for the late response but I was at work.
Here is the link (at 4:13):
Wow, I'm surprised Tech Jesus said that without it sounding too sarcastic. I believe they may be deciding it in a range a day before but an hour before? Dunno.
Please give the RTX 3070 more than 8GB VRAM.
My RX480 from 2016 already had 8GB. I'm not sure how well that will age 3+ years from now once games are targeting the PS5 and Series X.
If Tensor Memory Compression is real, 8GB would be similar to 11GB
Do we know the length of the FE 3090 based on that leaked pic? (i know the width is 2.75 pcie slots).
I assume the 24GB of VRAM are there to increase bandwidth? More vram chips in parallel = higher speed.
Thats not how the memory bandwidth works, it's more memory controllers in parallel = higher speed. They are using 12 controllers with 24 1GB chips, 12 on each side of the PCB. 12GB and 24GB would have same bandwidth.
What time is the "presentation" tomorrow?
9am PST
It would be huge for AMD if their top RDNA 2 card can compete with the 3080. Especially if it's priced at $100 less.
They will be competitive in games that don't support DLSS, but for those that do, Nvidia will continue to wipe the floor. Cyberpunk 2077 supports dlss. I expect more and more big names to support it.
Imagine spending $800+ on a 3080 only for AMD Big Navi to be almost as good for half the price a couple months later. Really makes me hesitant on preordering at this time.
Hahah no. Half price? Cmon.
You can use Freesync on a G-Sync monitor, at least on the latest NVIDIA GPUs.
This isn't true. AMD can not use Gsync monitors. The newest of the newest gsync monitors support both Freesync and Gsync, which is where you are getting mixed up.
More than price I'm interested in power draw.
3080 and 3090 seem very power hungry.
I sold my 1080, and am running a 2GB 960 atm so would like to get a GPU but if I can wait another month or so for a comparable GPU that's not only cheaper but also draws less power then that'd be a good thing.
We've got the data leaked already, TGP of 320 and 350 already. And 375w is the max in spec power draw for these cards unless you get an AIB model with more than 2x 8 pins.
I'm sorry but I don't understand. Your post suggests that I will need to stay with nvidia regardless?
I'm saying that you should be able to enable Freesync or G-Sync on your monitor, regardless of which you go with; AMD's RDNA 2 GPUs can use G-Sync, NVIDIA's GPUs can use Freesync.
Wrong wrong wrong. Nvidia can use freesync, AMD can't use gsync. This will not ever change. The newest monitors can support both gsync and freesync, but a gsync only monitor will NEVER work with AMD.
reeeeaally starting to look towards the 3080 Ti in early '21 for best high-end performance value.
As is tradition, waiting will always get ya more value. But I need cybperunk right meow.
What do people think the odds of a 3090 Ti next year are? Late next year is when I'm planning my next build.
Zero.000%, 3090 is already 97% of the full chip. The full chip is Titan.
Well, that's not how the 20 series panned out. The 2080 Ti was a different chip to the 2080 after all. I know we didn't get a chip above the 2080 Ti in the 20 series, so I'm not expecting we'll see something above the 3090, but I still have my fingers crossed. I really don't want to put a GPU that's a year or more old in a new build, nor do I want to wait to 2022.
I'll cope either way though. Hah.
You are looking at it backwards. The consumer chips start their biggest at the Titan level which is ga102. 3090 is 97% of full ga102. Next card faster than 3090 will be a 4090 in 2 years.
I still say the wildcard is whether it's Samsung "7nm" or TSMC. Cause if it's just Samsung 8nm with a couple alterations to call it "7nm", then a refresh on TSMC could bring significant gains. If these cards actually are on TSMC, then Nvidia has to explain where all this power is going. Because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense at the moment.
7nm Samsung and tsmc are basically the same, except Samsung has had worse yields, meaning the parts are more expensive to make. But Samsung charges less than tsmc. If 3090 is using Samsung 7nm it just means the parts will be even rarer, but the performance would have been the same as tsmc.
If I have an older G-Sync monitor (Acer Predator from several years ago), and if I get an AMD video card, will that support FreeSync?
No it won't work, see above.
Isn't it basically confirmed by this point that it's samsung?
Not confirmed. We just know it's 7nm. But Samsung and tsmc 7nm are basically equal besides yields.
The marketing stuff that's leaked out lists 7nm. Rumors were supposed to be 8nm Samsung. Which is where people are speculating. I'm putting my money on it being some Samsung 8nm++ shenanigans, but we'll see.
See above.
This is my motherboard, the MSI 470 Gaming Plus. Would I be able to fit a 3 slot card in my full size case with this board if I am using the M2 drive towards the bottom of the board? Just wondering if a 3090 would even work logistically if I didn't want to upgrade my motherboard. Any help is greatly appreciated.
M2 drives fit underneath gpu, doesn't matter.
I think I'm going to "refresh" my monitor before getting a new card in the spring. I was looking at the odyssey g7 from Samsung but I've read they have horrible flickering problems with gsync and freesync. Anyone have any other suggestions either 34" widescreen or 32" badassery?
Get 34 inch ultrawide 3440x1440p @144hz. Look at LG and Alienware.
So like, 3000 series comes out this year. How long would it take for 4000 to come out? 2-3 years? Like if it were to come out next year I would just go for a 3080 but 2 to 3 years and I would get a 3090.
2 years, hopper in 2022 barring any unforseen setbacks or delays.
A 20GB 3080 makes me wonder what a 3080 Ti would have.
12GB
Hope that lots of folks will buy the overpriced 20GB version of the 3080 so that i can snack one of the cheaper 10GB models and then just upgrade to a hopper card in 2022 with 16gb RAM at a resonable price.
16GB Hopper means either 256-bit or 512-bit bus width. Both extremely unlikely. Gonna be 12 or 24 for a while.
If there are 10GB and 20GB 3080 cards at launch, I am hoping the rumored $800 price point is for the 20 GB. If its for the 10GB, I'd imagine the 20GB variant will be $100 more at $900 at least. $900 for a freaking x80 card, wew.
And with the 3090 again, is its $1400 msrp, that means like the 2080Ti you won't be able to find one near that price anywhere near launch. You are more realistically talking $1500-1600. That price is INSANE to me. I can afford to pay it, but I don't think I can do it and exist in my own body afterwards lol.
GDDR6X is very very expensive. No chance that 10GB more costs less than $200 to the consumer.
Man, I hope they can at least give us a time frame as to when these 3080s will be available.
Same week as any of the AIB cards, which is likely a week after FE.
What's the best way to track when these go live, specifically the AIB cards?
Nowinstock.net
If I wanted an EVGA card, would it probably be best to sit on the EVGA website for one? Or would Newegg/Amazon/B&H be better?
Also, people are saying AIC and AIB, I feel like I'm missing something.
Evga website
Shopping around for a power supply to get for a Ryzen 4/GTX 3080 build, should I go 750w or 850?
If it's 15-20$ more just get the 850.
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