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Riot Games announces League of Legends card game Legends of Runeterra
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It definitely seems very forgiving. I also like how it's based on your best try out of 2, so if you get 6 or 7 wins your first go you can go for something experimental next and not care about wins.
damn, that's an excellent ass draft mode
this game is gonna be the GOAT CCG for real
What was the price is actual money? Yeah, I wouldn't expect the expected value of the draft mode to be radically different from other games. It's nice that it'll be less "feel bad" by requiring 2 losses in a row, and free drafting after 3 runs is welcome.
I wish it was balanced for not doing 2 runs per expedition. The thing I liked most about Shadowverse drafts was it was 5 games, no ifs, ands, or buts. Here, the worst case for each expedition would be alternating wins and losses and playing it twice for: 6W+7L (if you had 7W, you wouldn't play the second run) + 7W+6L = 26 games per expedition.
Of course it's an extreme example, but I do wish they didn't have this possibility come up. I'd prefer a full expedition run to go 1-1.5hrs, not potentially 3 tbh.
Of course it's an extreme example, but I do wish they didn't have this possibility come up. I'd prefer a full expedition run to go 1-1.5hrs, not potentially 3 tbh.
So for those that got to play the first beta test, how long did it take on average to get 4000 shards that you'd need to play the new draft mode? Because to me, 4k shards sounds like a lot, since it's the same amount it takes to craft a champion card.
Sure the actual card rewards you get look pretty decently balanced against the entry fee, but as someone who primarily wants to play draft modes in card games, I don't really care about that. I just want to play as much draft as possible, and the price point doesn't really look like it will allow for that.
Sure the actual card rewards you get look pretty decently balanced against the entry fee, but as someone who primarily wants to play draft modes in card games, I don't really care about that. I just want to play as much draft as possible, and the price point doesn't really look like it will allow for that.
There seems to be a free play draft mode. It sounded kind of like you play paid draft 3 times first, but it wasn't very clear. You may be able to access this free draft from the start even?
The way I understood the video, you only unlock free draft once you've paid for it three times in a single week. So it's more of a way of timegating rewards rather than a way to draft for free (which is in line with how they limit how many wildcards you can buy per week).
If that's the case, I really doubt I'll ever actually get to use it, since I'm worried about even getting enough currency to draft once per week. But I hope I'm wrong about how it works.
Rewards are super skewed right now, and you basically have access to unlimited resources in beta
4k shards is actually a lot. I think it would be unreasonable to get 4000 shards in 1 week at the current rates. Even if you grind super hard and get level 13 vault on week 1 (25k exp), that's still only 2400 shards. You can get extra shards from region progression or duplicate common/rare cards (25/75 shards). Epics and champions are automatically rerolled to another of the same level if you already have 3 copies. Maxing out a region will give you a total of 2920 shards (52.5k exp) which is way more than you can achieve in 1 week. Chests have a small chance to upgrade a tier, so your expected shard gain is a bit higher than this, but not by much. So yeah, entry fee is very high. I don't think you can play this mode much outside of free-play if you aren't putting money into the game or if you are slamming 6-7 wins every time. I'm not sure how many shards can be purchased per week either. I'm also not sure how you acquire the expedition tokens. Those who are good enough to go infinite are coming out of it with an extra 3 champion cards and some change every week.
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I didn't play in the last preview period despite getting access, so I can't say anything about the economy, but I have some thoughts about the draft itself. I waited for this because I prefer limited modes in card games over constructed.
+ Synergy cards being bundled together, and you being able to trade out cards every match, can reduce the moments in these "Pick 1 of 3" type draft modes, where you tried to pick a synergy card with low floor and high ceiling, but you end up just stuck with a dead useless card. I'd probably prefer drafting more cards than you need, then cutting the bad ones, but these methods are more casual-friendly and streamlined, I suppose. Better than Hearthstone Arena at least.
- This is not the type of draft where you pass unwanted cards to other people. A lot of people probably don't mind it, but from my experience, when in limited formats your card picks are unaffected by other people's picks, it tends to cement "X faction/archetype is just plain better than Y" phenomenon. When you're passing cards, you can often have "Mediocre cards of the best archetype" deck go against "best cards of the worst archetype" deck, depending on the drafters' skill levels. Draft meta has better chance of self-correcting, without needing to cross fingers for draft-based buffs/nerfs or manual appearance rate tweaks from the devs.
Slightly bummed out, but that's just me being a crazy person that loves Eternal Card Game's draft mode. I might still end up pleased overall if the evolving nature of the decks, potential high synergy ceiling, the leniency of the mode, and potential free drafts manage to charm me.
+ Synergy cards being bundled together, and you being able to trade out cards every match, can reduce the moments in these "Pick 1 of 3" type draft modes, where you tried to pick a synergy card with low floor and high ceiling, but you end up just stuck with a dead useless card. I'd probably prefer drafting more cards than you need, then cutting the bad ones, but these methods are more casual-friendly and streamlined, I suppose. Better than Hearthstone Arena at least.
- This is not the type of draft where you pass unwanted cards to other people. A lot of people probably don't mind it, but from my experience, when in limited formats your card picks are unaffected by other people's picks, it tends to cement "X faction/archetype is just plain better than Y" phenomenon. When you're passing cards, you can often have "Mediocre cards of the best archetype" deck go against "best cards of the worst archetype" deck, depending on the drafters' skill levels. Draft meta has better chance of self-correcting, without needing to cross fingers for draft-based buffs/nerfs or manual appearance rate tweaks from the devs.
Slightly bummed out, but that's just me being a crazy person that loves Eternal Card Game's draft mode. I might still end up pleased overall if the evolving nature of the decks, potential high synergy ceiling, the leniency of the mode, and potential free drafts manage to charm me.
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I'd really like to give this game a shot, but getting selected into the beta seems really difficult. I idled in twitch streams for a few days straight and got nothing.
Were you in high viewer streams or more moderate ones? the whole "500% DROP RATE" nonsense that started spreading and was, almost surely, bullshit didn't help. Even if it was true for disguised toast, his viewer count made it incredibly unlikely regardless. I idled in...amaz maybe? someone with like 1k viewers and got it overnight
Yeah, I got mine from a sub-100 viewer stream within few hours
I mean, if you're streaming LoR, I don't see why you'd not have them
But if that's a possibility, I suppose an easy tell as to whether those are enabled, is that the streamer has the card overlay on.
It should say under the stream title when watching the stream that drops are enabled. Although note that according to reddit, drops won't be active at all until phase 2 actually starts and any stream that currently says otherwise is just lying to you. The same reddit post also shows an example of what the "drops enabled" message looks like.
Ah good to know, thank you. I rarely use Twitch and find it confusing, I tend to just watch archived stuff on YouTube.
yes, i recommend scrolling down to "drop enabled" streams with low viewer counts & opening up a bunch of windows with them
Patch Notes for the play test starting in 20 hours
That feeling when nothing gets nerfed from your 90% winrate deck from the last beta period.
ohh do shareThat feeling when nothing gets nerfed from your 90% winrate deck from the last beta period.
Well I guess I can't get the list without access to the client for now. But it is a Vlad/Braum self-damage deck with all the minions that proc off of taking damage. You drop 1 and 2 cost units that turn into larger units which makes it very mana efficient.
So many streamers said that deck wasn't weak/beat it the few times they played it. My boy vlad not getting any respect
How close is this? I haven't gotten a chance to test it at all, just from theorycrafting after the beta period ended:
Agreed. also I hate their reasoning of too many complex interactions... Like that's what made the card really cool. If it was too strong, find another way to nerf it. Now it's just boring.
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The deck had all of those except I don't recall Crimson Curator, Tarkaz, Death Lotus, or Blood for Blood. The differences I remember were full set of Legion Veterans, 3x Culling Strike (I think this is a must in every Noxus deck), and some number of Whirling Death (really powerful 3 mana removal when you routinely have a 10+ power creature).
Some of your choices might be better though -- test it out! That's the beauty of pre-meta card games. Death Lotus in particular seems like something I want to try and fit in.
Yep, hope we get a nice set of wildcards and what not so we can go wild with testing again. I think I'll throw in some more legion veterans for sure to smooth out the curve. This is the deck I have been most excited to try for the next beta, glad to hear it can work!
Uhh, did anybody use the website? I signed up and literally one day later they emailed me with an invite.
Not a fan of simplifying Thresh's The Box and Kalista. And this is someone who HORRIBLY, DISASTEREDLY misplayed The Box AND misplayed into The Box. Just changing the wording would have been fine to reduce confusion rather than outright removing mechanics. I could see both of these as part of their new "do not summon minions at burst speed" mantra, but I also fundamentally disagree with that direction. It was confusing, but only because the tutorials for turn flow and burst speed were not sufficient imo.
Agreed honestly. Kalista isnt even recognizable as her league incarnation anymore either.
Also how the fuck was Freljord not hit with more nerfs
Yay just got an email inviting me to an expedition tomorrow 😊.
Going to try the champs I didn't try from las beta. My favorite was Karma and Lux.
Going to try the champs I didn't try from las beta. My favorite was Karma and Lux.
I signed up with that website during the first beta, didn't get in :(
Then again I have a fresh Riot account that's never played any of their games
She who wanders not affecting champs is a very good change, and i played her last time
I played Freljord/Shadow Isles, they nerfed like 4-5 of the cards I used :P
that could honestly be a plus depending on how you look at it
they want new blood
