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Have you any idea what is going on in Israel these days (and in recent years)?
Rep. Ilhan Omar calls Stephen Miller a white supremacist, republicans call her an antisemite because Miller is Jewish
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Have you any idea what is going on in Israel these days (and in recent years)?
This should be a democratic debate question. Is Stephen Miller a white nationalist, y/n. If you can't answer honestly, gtfo the stage.
Saying "but he's Jewish!" sounded just as dumb when people said it about Milo.
Saying "but he's Jewish!" sounded just as dumb when people said it about Milo.
Sorry we all forgot that apparently being Jewish is now a super power that makes you bullet proof to criticism. And merely being Muslim makes you a terrorist by default.. GOT IT.
Yeah. Back in a day Nazis actually didn't really particularly hate Islam or muslims. Hitler actually thought that Islam would had been better religion for Germany than the ''weak'' christianity. Modern white supremacy on the other hand is all about islamophobia. Of course another huge difference is how slavs were subhumans to Nazis when today modern Russia is one of the biggest allies of right wing groups.
I agree @Dubbedinenglish Leftists in Israel regularly say Bibi is a racist hypocrite, and frankly I agree. Also a war criminal and agitator. Abby Martin interviewed some his hardcore right-wing fans/followers and the stuff they say is mind boggling, the overt racism reminds me somewhat of how used to be in the U.S. during the Civil Rights Era.
They have youth groups (not sure how common) that rope in kids to indoctrinate them into believing terrible stuff like interracial marriage with ethnic-Arabs is not 'pure' and stuff like that. As an add on to that, there are fiction and non-fiction books about Palestinians and Israeli's finding love, but they are considered 'radical.' An example would be the author Dorit Rabinyan that wrote a book about her real life falling in love with a Palestinian artist ("All The Rivers" in English), the book became popular among youth, which angered non other than Netanyahu's party when it became recommended in Israeli schools and was pulled by the Ministry of Education. Backlash caused the Ministry to back off allowing teachers to use it again.
"I refuse to let go of my instinct of being in contact with others' pain," ; "This is turning your back. I refuse." - Dorit Rabinyan
They have youth groups (not sure how common) that rope in kids to indoctrinate them into believing terrible stuff like interracial marriage with ethnic-Arabs is not 'pure' and stuff like that. As an add on to that, there are fiction and non-fiction books about Palestinians and Israeli's finding love, but they are considered 'radical.' An example would be the author Dorit Rabinyan that wrote a book about her real life falling in love with a Palestinian artist ("All The Rivers" in English), the book became popular among youth, which angered non other than Netanyahu's party when it became recommended in Israeli schools and was pulled by the Ministry of Education. Backlash caused the Ministry to back off allowing teachers to use it again.
"I refuse to let go of my instinct of being in contact with others' pain," ; "This is turning your back. I refuse." - Dorit Rabinyan
What?
Everything she talked about was about Israeli lobbying in the Western world. And every single word was correct.
This is not some esoteric "brainwashing" or "hypnotizing" shit. And critizing Israel's lobbying activities isn't antisemitic. There is nothing to apologize for. Ilhan Omar called out the facts. Period.
The idea that Jewish people can't be white nationalist is patently absurd. Do I need to remind anyone about Israel's treatment of Black Ethiopian Jews?
So having faith in a certain religion gives you carte blanche from being called out for your behavior. Cool.
*Googles*
"Jeff Ballabon is an American media executive, lobbyist for Israel, political advisor, and consultant."
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I mean what do you expect? Call someone who's a blatant racist(and usually white) that they are a racist, what is their response to you? In my experience it's been that I am in fact the racist for saying it. Same shit as always.
No, this is a stupid comment, no offense. You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. Does it make sense to be if you aren't? Not really, but these people don't make sense anyway
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Well, she's right. Omar is anti-Semitic, but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that this one particular Jewish person really does happen to be a white supremacist and that it's bad for him to influence policy.
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No she is not anti-Semitic. Criticizing Israel and white supremacy does not make one an anti-semite.
Don't fall for the derail attempts.
Attn: Don't fall for the derail attempts.
It isn't stupid when that person is actually a white supremacist.
How dare she speak the truth!
Hopefully her Democrat colleagues don't throw her under the bus again. It's refreshing seeing someone with a spine in Washington.
Hopefully her Democrat colleagues don't throw her under the bus again. It's refreshing seeing someone with a spine in Washington.
also, speaking from experience as an American Jew, plenty of Jews are incredibly racist, especially white Jews and especially against Arabs and Muslims more generally
She is not anti-Semitic. Not in any sense of the word.
Oh shit..I've been had.
How anyone could think simply being Jewish disqualifies someone from white supremacist ideology when Israel is literally attempting a genocide against Arab people is beyond me.
Imagine if people started claiming "well that person is Christian, and racism is against the teachings of Christianity, thus its impossible for them to be a white supremacist despite all of their racist behavior". That would rightly be declared as bullshit. Yet Judaism gets to be a shield because...?
Imagine if people started claiming "well that person is Christian, and racism is against the teachings of Christianity, thus its impossible for them to be a white supremacist despite all of their racist behavior". That would rightly be declared as bullshit. Yet Judaism gets to be a shield because...?
had enough of your endless shit. time to crack open that ignore button
Also, being how Rashida Tlaib is a literal Semite (all Palestinians are which is on purpose forgotten), then when you go after her you are being anti-semitic...right?
Maybe the average Jewish man, sure.
Miller? Absolutely not.
And this whole idiotic reaction by the dumbest people on the planet - American conservatives - is further proof that they have no ability to identify actual racism or bigotry. None.
Based on fucking what?
You know, I'm pretty sure last census there was not an option for Latino/Hispanic whatever category they want to put me in because I was born in Mexico City from that heritage. So I had to choose white.
Pretty sure then that being of Jewish heritage does not prevent Death Eater Miller from being a white racist supremacist.
The ones condemning Ilhan on this comment are being racist themselves if they think that being Jewish prevents Miller's racism, like they are implying and hinting that there is some kind of Jewish race.
Pretty sure then that being of Jewish heritage does not prevent Death Eater Miller from being a white racist supremacist.
The ones condemning Ilhan on this comment are being racist themselves if they think that being Jewish prevents Miller's racism, like they are implying and hinting that there is some kind of Jewish race.
No. This was something she said years ago. You're thinking of recent controversies. I don't know what use it is pretending it wasn't controversial when she Even acknowledged the issue and apologized for it.
No. The GOP had been continuously attacking her since she won the election on this axis, but none of the previous attacks had done any damage outside of the GOP base because there was nothing to it. The "Benjamins" thing blew up internally because there was actually a problem (and that problem has turned out to be her social media manager.) This will fare the same way as all the rest of the stupid bad faith stuff prior to the "Benjamins" thing because no one's going to give it the time of day except for white supremacists.
Turns up it's pretty easy to win a debate if you don't have no standard and no self respect.
No. No she isn't. As a Jewish person I have not found anything she said to be particularly anti-Semetic.
funnily enough, this was exactly what you said about the "loyalty to a foreign country" comments before coming up with an excuse to blame Omar when it didn't play out that way
There's been a conspiracy theory among the right-wing (and, unfortunately, some local Democrats) since she started to gain noteriety in Minneapolis that now-Rep. Omar married her brother to get U.S. citizenship.
I didn't "come up with an excuse", I said her twitter response would make things worse the moment I saw it, and it did. And then 2 weeks back the underlying problem with why her twitter responses kept accidentally escalating issues made itself known https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/status/1110651542930108416 (he is her comms manager)