Come on. I'm just throwing a joke :p
I'm too old to be an internet troll.
I think you can see some competitive inertia in Sony's operations with PlayStation 5 in this 9th generation. #JustMarketLeaderThings
How many companies have done "what's worked up until now" while their industry was changing around them? How many of those companies suffered because of such decisions? Sony has been seemingly slow to react to some of the changes in the industry. The Spartacus rumors had people wondering why a response to GamePass was necessary and now there's almost a desperation to imagine a way Sony could overcome the challenges presented by today's news.
The reason why people are so worked up about this news is because of the fear of change. So many people have tied their identities to PlayStation that the future of consolidation and digital/cloud/metaverse gaming is horrifying. But change is inevitable.
Go back to content consumption (i.e., watching TV) at the turn of the century, Y2K. Could you have seen our current entertainment landscape from back then? If you did, you have a lot to answer for. If not, why would you assume that gaming as it was in the 00s and 10s would remain the same in the 20s or 30s?
What could you have done to stop this? Since everyone is ultimately pursuing profit and growth, how were you going to convince them that the way you prefer things is best? That their AAA process, which requires thousands of man-hours and tens/hundreds of millions of dollars, could be sustained indefinitely the way they are?
The old ways aren't bringing constant quarter-over-quarter growth/earnings, so they will pursue new ways to fulfill those goals. Even at the detriment of what you love. Even if it destroys it. And if Sony doesn't join "them," well. You can already sense that conclusion.
That's what capitalism does. It wrings every ounce of life from its assets to extract every drop of value and profit from it.
The good thing is that kids nowadays prefer Fortnite over Call of Duty.
Sony probably talking to Tim Sweeney right now.
"What's in it for Sony?" You missed one thing Game Pass won't be on: Playstation. That's Sony's gaming division. The more popular IPs that MS takes, the fewer popular IPs Playstation has. Sony's gamers are losing access to huge IPs, and risk losing even more in the future if they don't do their own acquisitions.Their endgame is Game Pass everywhere. They want Game Pass to be main way you consume games. But what's in it for Sony to acquire companies other than reacting to the competition doing the same?
At the same time, there's a lot of people that can't even buy a PS4, that's the really in my country, Brazil, but then comes the gamepass with a cheap subscription with games playable in a smartphone, that's much more accessible than a PS5, a luxury item with luxury price games, Gamepass is a turning point for people in the third worldThis, this, this and this.
My childhood was PlayStation through and through. Because it's all my parents could afford. It went down in price well enough, there was always something within budget.
As an adult I have far too many things to pay for. I'm not made of money and I've had to work for every damn thing I own. Nobody has helped me. Not because they didn't want too but because they couldn't.
I have a mortgage to pay for. All the bills that come with it. Pet insurance. A child that grows and eats me out of house and home. A family car on finance because of course, we don't have £10,000+ spare for a car. The costs of running said car.
I don't have the luxury of affording several consoles and if it wasn't for incredible friends and family for my 30th in 2020, I would never have been able to afford a PS5. Not till it come down another hundred to a hundred and fifty pounds.
Honestly it's just a dick move from Microsoft. This industry is heading towards consolidation and it's sad, depressing and unfavorable all round. Very anti consumer. And yeah Sony have bought some developers, but they haven't bought two publishers, a large amount of studios and IP and they certainly aren't looking to take IP that's been multiplatform for years, in some cases, decades and remove it from competing platforms. Honestly, dick move.
I know.Come on. I'm just throwing a joke :p
I'm too old to be an internet troll.
"I can see why the disruption of Game Pass is not something that they want right now," said Spencer. "In the end, when we say we want everybody to be able to play on Xbox, we really mean if we can bring that full experience to a device that players want, we are totally open to those discussions."
Tencent already owns a large part of Epic.
I know.
Just messing with you lol
Plus by now I actually know who the trolls are, and you are not one of them
Diseny doesn't belong to this list at all.What if Sony should form a strategic partnership with a megacorp like Google, Disney, Apple, or Amazon?
Sony's endgame will be the same thing. PlayStation games on consoles, PC and mobile.Their endgame is Game Pass everywhere. They want Game Pass to be main way you consume games. But what's in it for Sony to acquire companies other than reacting to the competition doing the same?
It is. Which could be the reason why Sony will go big now. "Losing" a market again like Sony Pictures or Sony Music once with the CD/MP3 debacle?The PlayStation business represents too significant a slice of all of Sony Corps' revenue and profit for them to not consider spending big, even if they don't want to. The PS business is too important for them not to react.
Sony acquiring Epic would mean then controlling UE. That alone would have a huge ripple effect in the industry.Sony is never going to get Fortnite as an exclusive. They'd have to literally shut the Xbox version off to do so, which they won't. There's zero value in pursuing Epic.
I want to call you an ass, but I can't. I'll let this one go because it is good.
It doesn't make sense to talk about the past, but...
Sony should have bought some higher shares of 3rd party publishers to prevent such an outcome.
Maybe they will start doing that, now.
Playstation is my main system and has been since like day 1 and I haven't cared for xbox since like the first few 360 years.Their endgame is Game Pass everywhere. They want Game Pass to be main way you consume games. But what's in it for Sony to acquire companies other than reacting to the competition doing the same?
I want to call you an ass, but I can't. I'll let this one go because is good.
A potential TakeTwo acquisition by Sony would lead to Microsoft taking a Square/Capcom, or Ubisoft, and further sinking that sharp point into Jim Ryan's anxiety levels. Sure, you get GTA every decade, but for doing that, you lose Assassins Creed/Final Fantasy, on top of Call of Duty. Sony are then left scratching their heads.
In other words, this is no longer about single acquisitions, but rather a rush to scoop up as many large publishers to firewall your brand, whether that be Game Pass or Playstation as a whole. Unless Sony are willing to do just that, they need to face the new reality that allowing Game Pass on the PlayStation is the only sensible, long-term model to retain these third-party titles, and regain Call of Duty.
And to be honest with you, who here would say no to playing CoD, Starfield, Halo, Forza et al for $14.99 on your PS5?
No one is underplaying it. But a lot of you are absolutely going into ridiculous territory with your predictions for what the future holds.
The good thing is that kids nowadays prefer Fortnite over Call of Duty.
Sony probably talking to Tim Sweeney right now.
EA would be a waste of money.Sony should team up with Tencent and co acquire Take2, EA and Ubisoft
Yeah people can say watever they want but there will be big conversation at Sony's top not just PS. We shall see what decisions will they make...This is definitely a big "go big or go home" moment for Sony as a whole, not just SIE. In FY2020 (April 1st 2020 through March 31st 2021) the Games & Network Services was Sony's most profitable division at an operating income ¥342.2B (today's exchange rate: $2.99B), with Music coming in second at ¥188.1B ($1.64B) and accounting for a total of 35.2% of Sony's operating income.
They are doomed then.Sony ain't gonna buy any publisher, some of you just need to let this go and accept reality
Maybe they'll buy another support studio to port exclusives on PC lol
that's why I said merge. PlayStation + Epic + Tencent can work against MS.
I would. I wouldn't pay a single cent for the service, because at that point it isn't about the games themselves or my convenience but the principle. It would be raising the white flag, but just as a PlayStation gamer but as a conscious consumer who understands that consolidation equals the death of innovation and killing of progressive gaming culture.A potential TakeTwo acquisition by Sony would lead to Microsoft taking a Square/Capcom, or Ubisoft, and further sinking that sharp point into Jim Ryan's anxiety levels. Sure, you get GTA every decade, but for doing that, you lose Assassins Creed/Final Fantasy, on top of Call of Duty. Sony are then left scratching their heads.
In other words, this is no longer about single acquisitions, but rather a rush to scoop up as many large publishers to firewall your brand, whether that be Game Pass or Playstation as a whole. Unless Sony are willing to do just that, they need to face the new reality that allowing Game Pass on the PlayStation is the only sensible, long-term model to retain these third-party titles, and regain Call of Duty.
And to be honest with you, who here would say no to playing CoD, Starfield, Halo, Forza et al for $14.99 on your PS5?
Preventing massive amounts of player and revenue loss. They have to keep people from abandoning their hardware to spend all their time and money on other platforms.
"What's in it for Sony?" You missed one thing Game Pass won't be on: Playstation. That's Sony's gaming division. The more popular IPs that MS takes, the fewer popular IPs Playstation has. Sony's gamers are losing access to huge IPs, and risk losing even more in the future if they don't do their own acquisitions.
I get what you are all saying. It's just crazy to me that we could get an announcement of a major publisher being acquired & it wouldn't be a surprise because "we had to buy them". It's a completely new game being played now.Sony's endgame will be the same thing. PlayStation games on consoles, PC and mobile.
Streaming, sub services (Spartacus) and "normal" gaming.
For that you need content. A lot of content. Famous IPs.
Im still figuring out how GP could be profitable and suitanable in long term.Yes. I would also be frightened, what Microsoft is doing is creating a new business model (similar to the impact of Netflix on the audiovisual industry), the problem is that games are worth $ 70 and not less than $ 10 like movie tickets. And it is very likely that players will stop buying games if they have several triple A on their subscription service every month. Maybe some very established IPs are going to survive, but the vast majority are going to have a really hard time surviving.
Sony's biggest acquisition as of today is 2.3B $ for EMI. Take Two post Zynga deal will be a monumental 30+B $ acquisition. Easy is definitely the wrong word here. I think the price tag is almost prohibitive actually. While technically possible, people have to realize Sony is more than just PlayStation. Even Capcom would be roughly 3 times the amount they spend on their biggest deal yet.Sony can do this without Amazon, Google, or Apple.
Sony has the money to easily get Square-Enix and Capcom. Or Take Two.
They question is: Do they want to buy them?
Dude. BioWare is a joke these days. A shell of its former self. It's not even worth talking about them. Lol.If I had my pick, they'd buy EA so they could give BioWare games that first party Sony polish.
I remember how you have mentioned this for years already while I was lurking here without an Era account. Lol. And people were angry at you.This is definitely a big "go big or go home" moment for Sony as a whole, not just SIE. In FY2020 (April 1st 2020 through March 31st 2021) the Games & Network Services was Sony's most profitable division at an operating income ¥342.2B (today's exchange rate: $2.99B), with Music coming in second at ¥188.1B ($1.64B) and accounting for a total of 35.2% of Sony's operating income. Sony's stock being down 7% also shows what a huge hit this is and that Sony has to respond. The big question, and this has already been mentioned by me and others, can Sony even acquire a big western publisher without Microsoft swooping in and just outbidding them?
Sony's financials are also in 2 weeks, it'll be interesting to see if they'll get any questions about this.
Im sorry lol, it was too good not to post. I giggled to myself when I thought of it.
Game Pass won't come to PS5 or Switch because Sony and Nintendo 'don’t want’ it
‘Closed platforms don’t want something like Game Pass’www.techradar.com
Phil has made no secret that he wants Gamepass everywhere, even Switch
Yes. I would also be frightened, what Microsoft is doing is creating a new business model (similar to the impact of Netflix on the audiovisual industry), the problem is that games are worth $ 70 and not less than $ 10 like movie tickets. And it is very likely that players will stop buying games if they have several triple A on their subscription service every month. Maybe some very established IPs are going to survive, but the vast majority are going to have a really hard time surviving.
Sony's biggest acquisition as of today is 2.3B $ for EMI. Take Two post Zynga deal will be a monumental 30+B $ acquisition. Easy is definitely the wrong word here. I think the price tag is almost prohibitive actually. While technically possible, people have to realize Sony is more than just PlayStation. Even Capcom would be roughly 3 times the amount they spend on their biggest deal yet.
It would be infinitely more entertaining seeing people having mental breakdowns if Sony ends up doing nothing in the near-future. I'm praying for the health of PS OT's, though.
Which is the more valuable IP to the core user right now?
Cod/Warzone or GTA?
Inquisition was good. Andromeda was rushed. Anthem was a solid base that wasn't fleshed out and never got the support it needed. ME: Legendary was a great remaster.Dude. BioWare is a joke these days. A shell of its former self. It's not even worth talking about them. Lol.
This move affects Sony as a whole, not just SIE. The PS business represent too significant of a portion of Sony's profits for them to sit back and allow it to shrink b being muscled out by MS. Shareholders will demand some response.Sony's biggest acquisition as of today is 2.3B $ for EMI. Take Two post Zynga deal will be a monumental 30+B $ acquisition. Easy is definitely the wrong word here. I think the price tag is almost prohibitive actually. While technically possible, people have to realize Sony is more than just PlayStation. Even Capcom would be roughly 3 times the amount they spend on their biggest deal yet.
Problem is GTA now is once every +10 years while CoD is every year.Mate, you are trying to hard on this one.
GTA is way bigger for both core and casual users. Once GTA6 is announced you will know.
The tricky thing is:
Gamepass doesn't just include Microsoft first party games, it also includes games that you would otherwise have to purchase on your Nintendo/Sony console and at least when purchased through their official storefront that would mean they would get 30% of that purchase. At most Nintendo/Microsoft could take 30% of the Gamepass subscription fee if you subscribed to Gamepass through their storefronts but Microsoft could just charge a premium on those platforms and entice you to subscribe via their website. That would mean users would be able to sign into Gamepass and completely circumvent the built in storefronts and their revenue streams. There is no upside from a business standpoint. Not a single one.
When someone presents you with that deal, why the fuck would you want it to take it? Would Microsoft EVER take that deal if they were in a similar position?
Of course you can argue "why would you worry about a megacorporation's revenue stream and storefront, I just want more games who cares if its bad business" but honestly I cannot shut that part of my brain down and pretend to be disappointed that Nintendo and Sony are "turning down" Microsoft's gracious Gamepass offer.
Im still figuring out how GP could be profitable and suitanable in long term.
I totally agree with your post. I think that part of "Gamepass everywhere" is the long game for Phil Spencer. Now whether or not GamePass on other video game systems becomes a thing remains to be seen.
Problem is GTA now is once every +10 years while CoD is every year.
I mean you have to start somewhere. MS bought Minecraft for $3 billion, last year MS spent $9 billion for Bethesda, people called it huge, largest buyout by far. Now year later MS spends over 7 times over and bought Activision for $70 Billion. It's obvious if you want to stay competetive you got to spend money right now.
Problem is GTA now is once every +10 years while CoD is every year.