PlayStation 5 Pre-Release Technical Discussion |OT|

disco_potato · Oct 30, 2020

anexanhume said:
Use the touchpad for text entry with soft/hard presses differentiated and predictive text.

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Sony had a ps5 "showing" in portugal some days ago. One of the souls guys I somewhat follow got a chance to check it out. Gyro is nearly 1:1 with movement, and the touchpad is indeed very precise. He was able to draw spirals with the screen in front of him tracking several of the loops at once, and he did mention writing his name and it being legible on the screen in front of him. He's really hoping gyro aiming catches on.

anexanhume · Oct 30, 2020

disco_potato said:
Sony had a ps5 "showing" in portugal some days ago. One of the souls guys I somewhat follow got a chance to check it out. Gyro is nearly 1:1 with movement, and the touchpad is indeed very precise. He was able to draw spirals with the screen in front of him tracking several of the loops at once, and he did mention writing his name and it being legible on the screen in front of him. He's really hoping gyro aiming catches on.

Gyro aiming is essential on vita.

AegonSnake · Oct 30, 2020

November 2, 2017. My first post in the next gen thread.

2020 at the latest.
10-12 tflop GPU.
12-16GB of RAM.
8 Core 3.2Ghz CPU.

PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - timing and specification

only 4 cores? at least make it 8. it should be possible on 7nm ?

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2Blackcats · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
November 2, 2017. My first post in the next gen thread.

2020 at the latest.

10-12 tflop GPU.

12-16GB of RAM.

8 Core 3.2Ghz CPU.

PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - timing and specification

only 4 cores? at least make it 8. it should be possible on 7nm ?

www.resetera.com

Ha, saw that alright. Nearly posted it. Don't think you're talking Navi flops there though.

Most of the good guessers are now banned.

AegonSnake · Oct 30, 2020

2Blackcats said:
Ha, saw that alright. Nearly posted it. Don't think you're talking Navi flops there though.

Most of the good guessers are now banned.

Yeah, but then again that was 1.5 years before RDNA was revealed.

I was team 14 tflops after that. lol. TBF, Sony's cooling solution is so amazing that they couldve easily cooled a 52 CU 2.0 Ghz 13.8 tflops GPU Tommy Fisher was making up within the same thermal budget as a 36 CU 2.23 ghz GPU.

They just wanted to hit $399 at any cost. Their $499 SKU couldve easily been 13.8 tflops had they aimed for that pricepoint all along.

Deleted member 1589 · Oct 30, 2020

I remember someone asking. Apparently the HDMI cable included with the PS5 is HDMI 2.0

Chippy13 · Oct 30, 2020

Flutta said:
I remember someone asking. Apparently the HDMI cable included with the PS5 is HDMI 2.0

DF said in their comparison unboxing video it was HDMI 2.1, I'm going to go with what they say until we here official confirmation from Sony. Not sure how they could also have 8k playback and 4K VRR on the box without having a 2.1 cable.

Doc Cottle · Oct 30, 2020

Probably won't last long

Doc Cottle · Oct 30, 2020

Doc Cottle said:
Probably won't last long

Initial load is a bit... meh. From menu to game looked super quick though

Ombala · Oct 30, 2020

Doc Cottle said:
Initial load is a bit... meh. From menu to game looked super quick though

Meh?
Isn't it faster then quick resume?

Aladan · Oct 30, 2020

Oh man..I will learn to hate every console with loading times after playing with the PS5...

III-V · Oct 30, 2020

Flutta said:
I remember someone asking. Apparently the HDMI cable included with the PS5 is HDMI 2.0

John from DF hinted it is 2.1, as he has tested it and it worked fine.

III-V · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
November 2, 2017. My first post in the next gen thread.

2020 at the latest.

10-12 tflop GPU.

12-16GB of RAM.

8 Core 3.2Ghz CPU.

PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - timing and specification

only 4 cores? at least make it 8. it should be possible on 7nm ?

www.resetera.com

You nailed it spot on.

My first post was piggybacking on a Jeff Rigby joke.

2Blackcats · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
Yeah, but then again that was 1.5 years before RDNA was revealed.

I was team 14 tflops after that. lol. TBF, Sony's cooling solution is so amazing that they couldve easily cooled a 52 CU 2.0 Ghz 13.8 tflops GPU Tommy Fisher was making up within the same thermal budget as a 36 CU 2.23 ghz GPU.

They just wanted to hit $399 at any cost. Their $499 SKU couldve easily been 13.8 tflops had they aimed for that pricepoint all along.

Ha, yup. Sorry I wasn't trying to take anything away from you. I was going to post it because of how accurate you were (and you because you still post here). Well done :)

chris 1515 · Oct 30, 2020

Doc Cottle said:
Initial load is a bit... meh. From menu to game looked super quick though

This is faster than quick resume and part of it is not loading but intialisation of the game engine.

This is better than Xbox Series X and probably better than current PC without Direct Storage.

This is how watchdog legion load from save to game using a good PCIE 3 SSD.

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The PS5 SSD is one order of magnitude faster than than a good PCIE 3 SSD without Direct Storage.

EDIT:
And if he was using the control center screen, you can load your save directly from OS screen. And you can resume at least one game from rest mode.

Pheonix · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
Yeah, but then again that was 1.5 years before RDNA was revealed.

I was team 14 tflops after that. lol. TBF, Sony's cooling solution is so amazing that they couldve easily cooled a 52 CU 2.0 Ghz 13.8 tflops GPU Tommy Fisher was making up within the same thermal budget as a 36 CU 2.23 ghz GPU.

They just wanted to hit $399 at any cost. Their $499 SKU couldve easily been 13.8 tflops had they aimed for that pricepoint all along.

Yup, I also feel they felt that an extra 2-4TF on top a 10TF GPU wouldn't make for a meaningful noticeable difference. Probably based on other in-house tech they knew they would be incorporating.

Either way, they made one damn well-designed piece of hardware. It's clear that a LOT of thought went into it.

Heidern · Oct 30, 2020

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Flutta said:
I remember someone asking. Apparently the HDMI cable included with the PS5 is HDMI 2.0

This video is going solely based on the box writing. Don't cables usually have some kind of writing on them indicating their capability since they all essentially look the same? One of my HDMI 2.0 cables says 18gbps right on it. I wonder why none of them look at the cable to see if there is anything to learn from any writing or marks?

I will trust DF for the time being until someone clarifies.

Pheonix · Oct 30, 2020

Heidern said:
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This video is going solely based on the box writing. Don't cables usually have some kind of writing on them indicating their capability since they all essentially look the same? One of my HDMI 2.0 cables says 18gbps right on it. I wonder why none of them look at the cable to see if there is anything to learn from any writing or marks?

I will trust DF for the time being until someone clarifies.

Gotta trust DF. They at least have hardware that can test it. 120ps T and a GPU capable of outputting 120fps@4k. If the cable doesn't support t the selection just won't work.

Leonine · Oct 30, 2020

Pheonix said:
Gotta trust DF. They at least have hardware that can test it. 120ps T and a GPU capable of outputting 120fps@4k. If the cable doesn't support t the selection just won't work.

John also pretty clearly stated without outright saying it that his newly minted LG CX showed it was 2.1.

disco_potato · Oct 30, 2020

Heidern said:
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This video is going solely based on the box writing. Don't cables usually have some kind of writing on them indicating their capability since they all essentially look the same? One of my HDMI 2.0 cables says 18gbps right on it. I wonder why none of them look at the cable to see if there is anything to learn from any writing or marks?

I will trust DF for the time being until someone clarifies.

The ps5 box does not say high speed HDMI, it just says HDMI cable. I assume the high speed she's talking about is written on the cable itself.

James Sawyer Ford · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
November 2, 2017. My first post in the next gen thread.

2020 at the latest.

10-12 tflop GPU.

12-16GB of RAM.

8 Core 3.2Ghz CPU.

PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - timing and specification

only 4 cores? at least make it 8. it should be possible on 7nm ?

www.resetera.com

lol nice dude, pretty much nailed it

I remember back then everyone was saying 8TF Max

James Sawyer Ford · Oct 30, 2020

AegonSnake said:
Yeah, but then again that was 1.5 years before RDNA was revealed.

I was team 14 tflops after that. lol. TBF, Sony's cooling solution is so amazing that they couldve easily cooled a 52 CU 2.0 Ghz 13.8 tflops GPU Tommy Fisher was making up within the same thermal budget as a 36 CU 2.23 ghz GPU.

They just wanted to hit $399 at any cost. Their $499 SKU couldve easily been 13.8 tflops had they aimed for that pricepoint all along.

I disagree

XSX is already consuming a ton of power, I think they're both pretty close to the max power draw you could realistically expect in a console

a 14TF console would mean sacrifices in other areas, and to take advantage of the extra TF you'd need to increase memory bandwidth so you're looking at a 599 console

Uzupedro · Oct 30, 2020

Bruh the predictions are WILD.
Some people weren't even expecting SDDs

BreakAtmo · Oct 30, 2020

Uzupedro said:
Bruh the predictions are WILD.
Some people weren't even expecting SDDs

I know I wasn't initially expecting crazy fast ones. I figured they would just be going to ~500MB/s, just because continuing to use HDDs simply was no longer tenable. Glad I was wrong on that.

Sekiro · Oct 30, 2020

Lets think of a crazy whacky console spec for the year 2025 that'll be console cheap by 2027.

PS6 Specs:
16c/32t CPU @5.0GHz
30tf RDNA5 GPU @ 4GHz variable clock
16GB GDDR7 RAM (cuz they'll never go above that or HBM lmao)
SSD with speeds dare i say reaching 1TB/s
8K Blu-Ray drive
Full Ray Tracing with DLSS 5.0 AMD equivalent.

$399 digital
$499 disc

Holiday 2027

Quote me in 7 years
😄

bitcloudrzr · Oct 30, 2020

Sekiro said:
Lets think of a crazy whacky console spec for the year 2025 that'll be console cheap by 2027.

PS6 Specs:
16c/32t CPU @5.0GHz
30tf RDNA5 GPU @ 4GHz variable clock
16GB GDDR7 RAM (cuz they'll never go above that or HBM lmao)
SSD with speeds dare i say reaching 1TB/s
8K Blu-Ray drive
Full Ray Tracing with DLSS 5.0 AMD equivalent.

$399 digital
$499 disc

Holiday 2027

Quote me in 7 years
😄

The only thing that will be wrong is the blu-ray drive which will still be 4k.

Sekiro · Oct 30, 2020

bitcloudrzr said:
The only thing that will be wrong is the blu-ray drive which will still be 4k.

lmao if the world hasn't fully adopted 8K TVs by 2026 then i give up with seeing mainstream 32K TVs in my life time.

bitcloudrzr · Oct 30, 2020

Sekiro said:
lmao if the world hasn't fully adopted 8K TVs by 2026 then i give up with seeing mainstream 32K TVs in my life time.

This might end up like the PS3-4 gen where we had 1080p for both, only because we are not even driving native 4k yet.

Sekiro · Oct 30, 2020

bitcloudrzr said:
This might end up like the PS3-4 gen where we had 1080p for both, only because we are not even driving native 4k yet.

Yeah that could be it, ah well they can use that 8K disc drive for movies.

bitcloudrzr · Oct 30, 2020

Sekiro said:
Yeah that could be it, ah well they can use that 8K disc drive for movies.

I approve of this as a fan of physical media for movies, hopefully 4k blu ray adoption is good enough they continue.

Pheonix · Oct 31, 2020

Sekiro said:
Lets think of a crazy whacky console spec for the year 2025 that'll be console cheap by 2027.

PS6 Specs:
16c/32t CPU @5.0GHz
30tf RDNA5 GPU @ 4GHz variable clock
16GB GDDR7 RAM (cuz they'll never go above that or HBM lmao)
SSD with speeds dare i say reaching 1TB/s
8K Blu-Ray drive
Full Ray Tracing with DLSS 5.0 AMD equivalent.

$399 digital
$499 disc

Holiday 2027

Quote me in 7 years
😄

8c/16t CPU@5Ghz (IPC would better than what we have now by about 40%)
40TF GPU @ 2.5Ghz - 3Ghz (smaller shader increase but more die space used for RT and ML acceleration units)
20GB GDDR6/7 RAM with around 640GB/s of bandwidth (buffered with around 265MB of infinity cache for an effective 2TB/s+ of bandwidth). 20GB of RAM available for games
PCIe 5.0 SSD with 12GB/s uncompressed data throughput and 24GB/s compressed throughput.
UHD Bluray Drive.
$499.

Quote me in 8 years lol.

bitcloudrzr · Oct 31, 2020

Pheonix said:
8c/16t CPU@5Ghz (IPC would better than what we have now by about 40%)
40TF GPU @ 2.5Ghz - 3Ghz (smaller shader increase but more die space used for RT and ML acceleration units)
20GB GDDR6/7 RAM with around 640GB/s of bandwidth (buffered with around 265MB of infinity cache for an effective 2TB/s+ of bandwidth). 20GB of RAM available for games
PCIe 5.0 SSD with 12GB/s uncompressed data throughput and 24GB/s compressed throughput.
UHD Bluray Drive.
$499.

Quote me in 8 years lol.

Probably higher than PCIE 5 by 2027.

Doc Cottle · Oct 31, 2020

Pheonix said:
8c/16t CPU@5Ghz (IPC would better than what we have now by about 40%)
40TF GPU @ 2.5Ghz - 3Ghz (smaller shader increase but more die space used for RT and ML acceleration units)
20GB GDDR6/7 RAM with around 640GB/s of bandwidth (buffered with around 265MB of infinity cache for an effective 2TB/s+ of bandwidth). 20GB of RAM available for games
PCIe 5.0 SSD with 12GB/s uncompressed data throughput and 24GB/s compressed throughput.
UHD Bluray Drive.
$499.

Quote me in 8 years lol.

ARM Octo Core
6GB GDDR6
HDMI 4.1

$99 + $24.99/month

Yeah I think these are the last of the high end games consoles as we know them.

Wace · Oct 31, 2020

Pheonix said:
8c/16t CPU@5Ghz (IPC would better than what we have now by about 40%)
40TF GPU @ 2.5Ghz - 3Ghz (smaller shader increase but more die space used for RT and ML acceleration units)
20GB GDDR6/7 RAM with around 640GB/s of bandwidth (buffered with around 265MB of infinity cache for an effective 2TB/s+ of bandwidth). 20GB of RAM available for games
PCIe 5.0 SSD with 12GB/s uncompressed data throughput and 24GB/s compressed throughput.
UHD Bluray Drive.
$499.

Quote me in 8 years lol.

Don't forget that GPU has 36CU, for BC. ))

Pheonix · Oct 31, 2020

bitcloudrzr said:
Probably higher than PCIE 5 by 2027.

Definitely, the PCIe 6 spec has been finalized too, or just about to. But that's not the point.

I believe that the next generation would be a far more measured generation as I believe we have already reached a point where certain things wouldn't be an issue anymore or be necessary. There would be PCIe6 drives and controllers in 2028. But at that point, PCIe 5 stuff would be cheaper. And a 4x PCIe 5 drive would still give speeds of 16GB/s. I am even expecting them to use cheaper variants of that and that's why I put in 12GB/s. They wouldn't need anything more than that when working with a max of 20GB of usable RAM. Even with a 12GB/s drive that can move 24GB/s of uncompressed data, that's being able to fill your entire RAM in under a second. What point would having a 24GB/s PCIe 6 drive do besides just costing more?

And they wouldn't need more than 20GB of useable RAM when you have an SSD that can fill it in under 1 second. Having more RAM than that would just be a waste. And they wouldn't have to put in the most cutting edge available GDDR RAM in there too. They put in 24GB total and reserve 4GB for the OS making 20GB available to games. And they can do that using 16Gbs GDDR6 chips which would be very cheap and give them around 768GB/s of bandwidth. Knowing that they could use something like infinity cache to boost that.

They could literally have like a 55TF+GPU in there, but they also wouldn't need anything more than 40TF because at that point Machne learning assisted supersampling cores would be a standard in GPUs as would RT cores. So some of their chip budget would go to other components.

An all-around measured approach. It wouldn't be about what is possible then, but about what is necessary.

cooldawn · Oct 31, 2020

Heidern said:
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This video is going solely based on the box writing. Don't cables usually have some kind of writing on them indicating their capability since they all essentially look the same? One of my HDMI 2.0 cables says 18gbps right on it. I wonder why none of them look at the cable to see if there is anything to learn from any writing or marks?

I will trust DF for the time being until someone clarifies.

The problem is the XBOX Series X cable clearly reads 'Ultra High Speed'. The PS5 one is blank. Not only that, there's seemingly no literature to back up HDMI 2.1 claims by YouTuber's.

Lucy is also waiting for official confirmation.

Why be coy when your competitor has it in black and white?

BreakAtmo · Oct 31, 2020

Pheonix said:
Definitely, the PCIe 6 spec has been finalized too, or just about to. But that's not the point.

I believe that the next generation would be a far more measured generation as I believe we have already reached a point where certain things wouldn't be an issue anymore or be necessary. There would be PCIe6 drives and controllers in 2028. But at that point, PCIe 5 stuff would be cheaper. And a 4x PCIe 5 drive would still give speeds of 16GB/s.

I don't know about this. Doesn't the Xbox SSD save money by using PCIe4 to achieve basic PCIe3-level speeds with half the lanes? I think PCIe6 will likely be similarly cheaper than 5 when targeting the same speed - it'll only be more expensive when actually being used to go faster.

Pheonix · Oct 31, 2020

BreakAtmo said:
I don't know about this. Doesn't the Xbox SSD save money by using PCIe4 to achieve basic PCIe3-level speeds with half the lanes? I think PCIe6 will likely be similarly cheaper than 5 when targeting the same speed - it'll only be more expensive when actually being used to go faster.

Very likely I guess. Makes sense.

Heidern · Oct 31, 2020

disco_potato said:
The ps5 box does not say high speed HDMI, it just says HDMI cable. I assume the high speed she's talking about is written on the cable itself.

I rewatched the video and she says "on the playstation 5 box it says High Speed HDMI", so I'm just going to keep rolling with DF info until I hear from some other official source.

cooldawn said:
The problem is the XBOX Series X cable clearly reads 'Ultra High Speed'. The PS5 one is blank. Not only that, there's seemingly no literature to back up HDMI 2.1 claims by YouTuber's.

Lucy is also waiting for official confirmation.

Why be coy when your competitor has it in black and white?

I didn't know the PS5 cable was blank so my hope that they could glean some information from the exterior of the cable is dashed. As for being coy, I'm hopeful that that's not the reason for the perceived ambiguity. I wonder if there is some standard at play that would implicitly require a 2.1 cable for the PS5 specs and not have been a consideration when the text on the box was originally conceived?

I don't know enough to be certain of anything, nor am I particularly inclined to do a lot of research to find an answer. The main thing is that I don't really want to have to buy a separate HDMI 2.1 cable before launch day just to get the promised features, a concern that most people agonizing over the 2.1 question would have.

Jmvm · Nov 1, 2020

A bit of advice from the more technical minded peeps

I am looking for a 4K TV, and have to balance both budget and size (49 inches being the largest screen size i can have on the living room)

I am looking at this model lg 49nano866na 49" 4k ultra hd nanocell smart tv

Tech specs

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Has 2 x HDMI 2.1 and 2 HDMI 2.0

- Dolby Vision
- HDR10
- Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG)

Motion Rate 100Hz
Processing rate TruMotion 200

Plus all the extras

Can get this from several retailers in the UK.

Any advise in regards to this TV?
Worth the £699.00 asking price ?

Thank you

Dave. · Nov 1, 2020

Jmvm said:
A bit of advice from the more technical minded peeps

I am looking for a 4K TV, and have to balance both budget and size (49 inches being the largest screen size i can have on the living room)

I am looking at this model lg 49nano866na 49" 4k ultra hd nanocell smart tv

Tech specs

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Has 2 x HDMI 2.1 and 2 HDMI 2.0

- Dolby Vision
- HDR10
- Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG)

Can get this from several retailers in the UK.

Any advise in regards to this TV?
Worth the £699.00 asking price ?

Thank you

Prob better off posting in the "no perfect TV" thread:

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Look it up on Rtings, along with it's competition. Probably this is it's older model?

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Doc Cottle · Nov 1, 2020

Jmvm said:
A bit of advice from the more technical minded peeps

I am looking for a 4K TV, and have to balance both budget and size (49 inches being the largest screen size i can have on the living room)

I am looking at this model lg 49nano866na 49" 4k ultra hd nanocell smart tv

Tech specs

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Has 2 x HDMI 2.1 and 2 HDMI 2.0

- Dolby Vision
- HDR10
- Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG)

Motion Rate 100Hz
Processing rate TruMotion 200

Plus all the extras

Can get this from several retailers in the UK.

Any advise in regards to this TV?
Worth the £699.00 asking price ?

Thank you

I'd been looking into this tv myself but there are a lot of reviews saying the black levels and local dimming are not great. But then reviewers are often looking for perfection and comparing to £2k sets.
Best out there at that size is undoubtedly the 48" CX but it's £1400. Maybe Black Friday will help. Be wary of the QLEDs as the sub 55" models only have 60hz panels.
At that price the Nano is a good option.

M.Bluth · Nov 1, 2020

Uzupedro said:
Bruh the predictions are WILD.
Some people weren't even expecting SDDs

Lmao I wasn't! I was HOPING they'd leave us an empty M.2 slot to fill if we'd like, because I thought SSDs were off the table.

It was really tough making good predictions based on GCN's state at the time, and it got even trickier with RDNA. The RAM situation was a MESS.
However the most firm prediction I had was that both next gen systems would at minimum meet double the raw performance of the XOne X. I'd say both exceeded that, and on top of it pretty fast SSDs and HW RT, so I'm pretty happy

cooldawn said:
The problem is the XBOX Series X cable clearly reads 'Ultra High Speed'. The PS5 one is blank. Not only that, there's seemingly no literature to back up HDMI 2.1 claims by YouTuber's.

Lucy is also waiting for official confirmation.

Why be coy when your competitor has it in black and white?

These journalists are not that tech literate, and I don't think they claimed they were. The PS5 box simply says it includes an HDMI cable, it doesn't specify anything beyond that, so Lucy is wrong on that.

Also, at minimum, they have an XSX and an LG C9/CX, they could take the PS5's cable and set the Xbox to 4k120hz and find out if they really aren't sure.

Sekiro · Nov 1, 2020

Pretty sure they saying on Era is LG C9/B8/CX or bust

Jmvm · Nov 1, 2020

Dave. said:
Prob better off posting in the "no perfect TV" thread:

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Look it up on Rtings, along with it's competition. Probably this is it's older model?

LG NANO85 2020 Review (49NANO85UNA, 55NANO85UNA, 65NANO85UNA, 75NANO85UNA)

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Thank you. Will have a look into all the above

Jmvm · Nov 1, 2020

Doc Cottle said:
I'd been looking into this tv myself but there are a lot of reviews saying the black levels and local dimming are not great. But then reviewers are often looking for perfection and comparing to £2k sets.
Best out there at that size is undoubtedly the 48" CX but it's £1400. Maybe Black Friday will help. Be wary of the QLEDs as the sub 55" models only have 60hz panels.
At that price the Nano is a good option.

Yeah,£1400 is steep at the moment. Saw the reviews about the black levels but I have a bright room,. Hmmm, decisions, decisions...

Doc Cottle · Nov 1, 2020

Jmvm said:
Yeah,£1400 is steep at the moment. Saw the reviews about the black levels but I have a bright room,. Hmmm, decisions, decisions...

If you're in a bright room and not fussed about black out and watching a horror film I'd go for it. LG make great TVs.

Optmst · Nov 1, 2020

Sekiro said:
Pretty sure they saying on Era is LG C9/B8/CX or bust

Bravia X90H is great option, if they fix the low resolution at high framerates and add VRR support via the promised update
IMHO, it's better to wait and see
Spending a fortune on OLEDs that have high burn-in risk is not worth it

BreakAtmo · Nov 1, 2020

M.Bluth said:
Lmao I wasn't! I was HOPING they'd leave us an empty M.2 slot to fill if we'd like, because I thought SSDs were off the table.

I think a common mistake people were making was thinking that the prices of consumer SSDs were any indication of what it would cost Sony or Microsoft to include one in a console. In reality they're not that expensive to make and are sold at massive mark-ups.

cooldawn · Nov 1, 2020

M.Bluth said:
These journalists are not that tech literate, and I don't think they claimed they were. The PS5 box simply says it includes an HDMI cable, it doesn't specify anything beyond that, so Lucy is wrong on that.

Also, at minimum, they have an XSX and an LG C9/CX, they could take the PS5's cable and set the Xbox to 4k120hz and find out if they really aren't sure.

Lucy didn't say it was any type of HDMI. She did say she is seeking clarification. She re-iterated XBOX Series X has different wording to XBOX Series S.

Heidern said:
I didn't know the PS5 cable was blank so my hope that they could glean some information from the exterior of the cable is dashed. As for being coy, I'm hopeful that that's not the reason for the perceived ambiguity. I wonder if there is some standard at play that would implicitly require a 2.1 cable for the PS5 specs and not have been a consideration when the text on the box was originally conceived?

I don't know enough to be certain of anything, nor am I particularly inclined to do a lot of research to find an answer. The main thing is that I don't really want to have to buy a separate HDMI 2.1 cable before launch day just to get the promised features, a concern that most people agonizing over the 2.1 question would have.

Yeah...the ambiguity is cagey. I don't know if the lack of HDMI certification had any part of it (I doubt it) but why wouldn't Sony literature included in the box clearly state HDMI Ultra High Speed or HDMI 2.1 capable?

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