Jim Ryan sees Phil Spencer at Bethesda Softworks (2020 colorized)In retrospect it will be kinda funny if Sony got the Starfield timed exclusivity already signed.
Jim Ryan sees Phil Spencer at Bethesda Softworks (2020 colorized)In retrospect it will be kinda funny if Sony got the Starfield timed exclusivity already signed.
doom eternal alone sold 3m copies...digitally...during it's launch month. that probably alone cleared $1.12b.
George sold Star Wars for peanuts confirmed. Wasn't Disney the one who made Marvel the behemoth it is now? That one seems to be an unfair comparison.
I can see it though I'm curious how much that would cost. granted I guess I also wanna know how expensive these timed exclusivity deals are too. I imagine theif they already had the timed exclusivity signed you can bet microsoft would be buying out of that contract immediately
Jim Ryan sees Phil Spencer at Bethesda Softworks (2020 colorized)
For context, it's a bigger number than Disney paid for Marvel & Star Wars combined.
In retrospect it will be kinda funny if Sony got the Starfield timed exclusivity already signed.
Good point... Oh well, one day!I would imagine that won't happen until the deal is sealed quarter 2 of 2021.
Yes. See my post here.
They've been aggressively money-hatting, or in the process of, games with the sole intention of keeping them off Xbox for a period of time. Ironic how this and the two smaller timed exclusives turned out, no?
Edit: actual ResetEra topic about it
He was much more gentle in years past. He's taken himself completely off of social media this year
I am going to stop your right here. Making a billion in the box office does not translate into a billion of revenue. Considering all markets, it usually averages out to 40% of the revenue for the movie company, the rest goes to the cinema chains.
Disney will no doubt return money from SW deal (eventually) from all the other streams: shows, licensing, merchandise. However, to claim that the movies made 1B each for Disney, is extremely misleading and misinforming others.
You are terrible at math. Jesus Christ...
Lets talk about this. That is a massive number, like minus Microsoft, Nintendo, & Sony what company in gaming is worth that much?
You don't think Disney didn't already make money back with rentals, movie purchases, theme park attractions and Disney +I am going to stop your right here. Making a billion in the box office does not translate into a billion of revenue. Considering all markets, it usually averages out to 40% of the revenue for the movie company, the rest goes to the cinema chains.
Disney will no doubt return money from SW deal (eventually) from all the other streams: shows, licensing, merchandise. However, to claim that the movies made 1B each for Disney, is extremely misleading and misinforming others.
You are terrible at math. Jesus Christ...
Eh, it's up there though, one of about half a dozen of huge independent publishing houses which remained. With each one gone the markets gets less and less, well, a market.Zenimax is a big get, to be sure, but they're not anywhere near "biggest third party" territory.
Sooooo.. more games on Game Pass day one, but possibly no option to buy ps 5 version. Capitalism creates, capitalism destroys.
On their other hand... if Prey 2 will happen because of this, so be it. By maybe I'm biased...
technically you can still buy on gamepass lol you get a 20% discount tooI believe there will be an opportunity to buy! This is just silly thinking there will not be, yet that is the difference .... buy
Day one release:
PS5: $70
Xbox: Gamepass
US=/=WorldLol. I can't "prove" it to you, because Bethesda doesn't release numbers. But for your information, these are Top 10 bestselling games in US in 2015:
Best-Selling Physical Games in US for All of 2015:
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Star Wars: Battlefront (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Minecraft (360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4)
Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
FIFA 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Top Ten Best-Selling US Games of 2015 and December Revealed
Here are the best-selling games for December 2015 and the full year.www.gamespot.com
Fallout 4 is #3 despite being released at the end of the year. The only games that outsold it are COD and Madden NFL. Notice that Witcher 3, that went on to sell nearly 30 million over its lifetime (and was released much earlier in the year), isn't even on the list. So it's pretty safe to say that Fallout 4 has sold at least 30 million by now. So please stop rewriting history. It absolutely was a huge hit.
I was able to get Phil, Pete and Todd on to chat about this (and tell a few stories!) if you want to give it a watch
https://youtu.be/WI2IPeocbAA
Double memory party lolI was able to get Phil, Pete and Todd on to chat about this (and tell a few stories!) if you want to give it a watch
https://youtu.be/WI2IPeocbAA
God I hate feeding into this tiresome acquisition talk, but exactly. These things don't just automagically happen.
These acquisitions take a long time. I can't say a lot about my experiences because of NDAs, but I've experienced first hand (multiple times) the acquisition process, and it. is. long.
Chances are, this Microsoft/Zenimax acquisition has been in the pipeline for a very long time. It's also more than likely that Microsoft wasn't the only company bidding for Zenimax. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony was also in the running at one point.
What Zenimax will do is produce a packet of what they're selling. It's a very broad strokes, high level packet touting the value of their company. This is what they will send out to prospective buyers (ie, companies that have shown an interest in acquiring the company, like Microsoft). That's round 1.
After receiving the "sales pitch" so to speak, any interested parties will request a more deep dive into the company they're looking to acquire. That's when Zenimax would have provided an even more detailed packet with a breakdown of the company's goings on. Things like general financials, upcoming projects and their projected costs and returns, and other details that are confidential, but not "corporate secrets" level confidential. That's round 2.
And once again, the pool of potential buyers will shrink, as those companies are then weighing the benefits of the acquisition, and if it fits into their overall business plan/goals for their company long term. At this point, a bidding war can develop. Especially if multiple buyers decide that purchasing Zenimax fits into their long term financial goals. All of this is happening behind closed doors, and can take months as Zenimax, and the prospective buyers deliberate amongst themselves whether or not they want to get into business with each other. That's Round 3.
Then, at some point, the "final" round begins. Zenimax will try to leverage as much of their actual and perceived value as possible to get the highest possible bid for their company. It's at this point that any remaining buyers will opt out, or, Zenimax decides to make a decision on whom they want to go with, based on how well the individual meetings with prospective buyers went (ie, do these guys seem cool, not shitheads, and have the best interest of the company at heart) and the deal is struck between the party they decide. That's just a super general breakdown of the process, in part, based on industry experience with acquisitions. Then the actual time frame of the closing of the deal can take additional weeks/months, and once both parties have received that approval, and the process of finalizing the acquisition is set in stone (ie, contracts are established, and discussions about how to integrate the company into their now parent company are underway), they'll announce it publicly.
Chances are high that within Sony, for example, it was known that Zenimax was up for acquisition. It's also more than possible that they were aware of who the interested acquirers were. It's also more than possible that Sony, knowing their own long term plans for the PlayStation division, either opted to participate in the acquisition of Zenimax, and chose to walk away from bidding, or didn't bother to participate in the bidding at all, and moved on to other plans to offset the potential loss of the content Zenimax would normally be releasing on their platform. For example, locking down timed exclusivity of Deathloop for PS5 while they could, so even if another company buys them, they would benefit in some way from that acquisition, without having to drop billions on the company as a whole, and take on the costs of running that publisher, and making sure it was a profitable investment.
Just because this was out of left field for us, the consumer, doesn't mean it was out of left field for Sony. They will respond to this, though not in a direct way, is my guess. They aren't going to come out and say, "Well, since Microsoft did this, we're doing this to counter!" They'll mix it in with marketing speak about "The future of PlayStation," or some such shit. I obviously don't know what's going on behind closed doors at Sony, but I doubt they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off, panicking at the loss of Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom, Wolfenstein, etc, etc. I'm sure they're more concerned about making sure the launch of the PS5 is successful, and meets the demand, as any plans to "counter" the Zenimax acquisition will have been kickstarted the moment they learned of the acquisition, which could have been months ago, if not longer, depending on how long Zenimax let it be known within the industry that they were up for sale. This is all speculation on my part, however, and I doubt we'll learn of the intricacies of this deal anytime soon, if ever.
Saw this on SIFTD and was just looking for the thread to post it, lol.I was able to get Phil, Pete and Todd on to chat about this (and tell a few stories!) if you want to give it a watch
https://youtu.be/WI2IPeocbAA
Thank you for bringing that over here. It was an interesting read.I hope that Figboy doesn't mind me posting this here, but this post is quality and gives a good insight into the acquisition process.
Thats really interesting. Especially considering that Sony may have known about this for a long time. Which makes me wonder more if they started looking for some other big acquisitions of their own.I hope that Figboy doesn't mind me posting this here, but this post is quality and gives a good insight into the acquisition process.
Thanks!!I was able to get Phil, Pete and Todd on to chat about this (and tell a few stories!) if you want to give it a watch
https://youtu.be/WI2IPeocbAA
I would say 35+ studios/teams. Like Obsidian have like 3 full teams.35 fucking studios....and now we wait. E3 2021 and 2022 should be something lol.
I'll never understand why people think it makes sense to subscribe to a service to play a GaaS game when it'd be cheaper to buy the game.
It's like people have it in their head that a single player experience can't exist on Game Pass. Is every show on Netflix a sitcom?