Man, he's gonna be in till 2024 huh? I mean he's a vulgar shit head that is getting lucky repeatedly. The pieces happend to line up in his favor. Fortunate son of a bitch.
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North Korea set to release US prisoners at summit
- Thread starter Smokeymicpot
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Just like Trump's reelection chances, I wouldn't put your eggs all in one basket just yet.
If you know anything about Trump and his business dealings over the last 40 years, you'd understand this guy is not an above-board businessman. He's been involved in a lot of shady stuff over the years, much of which includes close involvement with both Italian and Russian Mafiosos (and, by extension, Russian Oligarchs and the Russian State).
As someone from New Jersey who's been dealing with his sleazy shit for approximately the last 40 years, I have to laugh at what people from other parts of the country think they know about this guy.
And if you are from NY or NJ, you are either young or have your head in the sand.
I dont know what is going on, but this and Trump's relation with the crown prince of saudi arabia is insane.
Call me skeptical that the guy whose own secretary of state called him "a fucking moron" had anything to do with this. We've all seen him negotiate on issues like health care, Muslim ban & DACA.
Because if it comes at the hands of a man actively name-calling foreign leaders on Twitter taunting them that our nuclear arsenal - which is only good for killing MILLIONS OF PEOPLE and wrecking the shit out of the environment for millions more - is bigger than theirs. Also, threatening to use said arsenal. He hasn't got the empathy of a fly and surrounds himself with hawks so I can't quite believe that the trajectory from here is nothing but peace. But, hey, fingers crossed to be wrong on that count.
None of this shit matters when it comes to politics. None of his base cares about any of this. And as long as he keeps getting "lucky", the news will keep covering his streaks of luck
CNN's front page less than a week ago had an article attributing the North/South Korean thaw to Trump
Trump deserves credit for Korean thaw
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/27/politics/donald-trump-korea/index.html
This isn't Fox News, but CNN. The same CNN which has been a target by Trump
Trump supporters are welcome cling to this as a win for their team. It doesn't bother me, whether or not it's deserved.
We fret about how the sheer volume of horrible news stories makes it impossible for any of them to stick, but that works the other way too. Any good news that comes out for Trump will inevitably get drowned out by a flood of shit within a couple of days.
Already this NK thing has been pushed out of the news thanks to Giuliani, and it's only been a few hours
We fret about how the sheer volume of horrible news stories makes it impossible for any of them to stick, but that works the other way too. Any good news that comes out for Trump will inevitably get drowned out by a flood of shit within a couple of days.
Already this NK thing has been pushed out of the news thanks to Giuliani, and it's only been a few hours
I guess digging more about Trump's past actions will keep him in check and make him do miracles o_O
Didn't vote for Trump, but we really don't know unfortunately. He was making pretty crazy threats to NK on Twitter(fire and brimstone) and we had a C.I.A. agent meet with Kim in a secret meeting. There is no telling what has happened behind the scenes.
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Yeah, the media is shitty for the clicks and its bottom line (as Michelle Wolf exposed at the WHCD), but Trump's approval rating is still shit.
People outside his rather small base don't really like him. I think people have already made up their minds about who they are going to vote for next time. And domestic matters involving the economy and jobs are much more important than anything that could happen with the Koreas in terms of influencing the outcome of the next election.
With that being said, I'd say realistic, non-hyperbolic odds of Trump getting reelected are 40% chance of winning to 60% chance of losing.
So we've got one thread that says his legal team is in flames and he's admitting to crimes and in trouble. But this thread says he's lucky and/or awesome and gonna be Prez for life. So which is it everybody?
I agree with you in regards to nothing being certain, but if he can mantain even a fraction of the success he's managed somewhat recently on a consistent basis going forward, it's a lock
To quote CNN:
When you have even CNN saying Trump earned a legacy win unrivaled since WWII, democrats are in serious trouble
A legacy win with N/S Korea will dwarf any potential legal issues that may arise
Don't forget about the nazi stuff. It's only a matter of time before we.. I mean he goes after the Jews.
Depending how much propaganda you watch on tv you'll have varying degrees of hysteria or delusion on what's actually happening.
This is a pretty pathetic way to think and literally in opposition of everything American is supposed to stand for. I don't give a shit if he was FDR and won WW2, committing crimes is serious.
It's not a news cycle you just dwarf out. It's the law.
Key word being "supposed"
Reality and your ideal view of what OUGHT to be are in complete disconnect
Even dumb, terrible people can inadvertently do something good. Regardless what happens, it doesn't really change what and who Trump is.
It would be nice for the conflict in the Koreas to be over legitimately, but nothing seems solid at the moment. Also, we don't really have much insight into the motives of the actors involved yet. I think for this situation it may be best to take a wait-and-see approach.
Haha, Americans don't remember what happened yesterday in the news cycle. Most Americans don't give a damn about what happens in the Koreas, especially when that is 2 years removed from the general elections.
So you don't see how terrible this would be for the country going forward? That the President and other politicians get to literally be above the law as long as they just bring something home to the voters to show they aren't completely incompetent?
We're venturing awfully close to "at least he kept the trains running on time" territory here. I strongly suggest you rethink your belief system and how much of your own identity you attach to PUBLIC SERVANTS.
Is that "Fake News" CNN we're talking about? No self-respecting Trump supporter listens to them anyway. They'd all be paying far more attention to Fox News who congratulates the president for everything he does day-in, day-out anyway. This will just get lost amongst all the rest of the ass-kissing.
Most conservatives do remember
Just look at how long they've been ranting about Benghazi, the Clintons, 9/11 as a justification for action/legislation, etc
A major international win will not be forgotten
Add the nobel peace prize on top of it...which I have no doubt he will win
There's no safe bet that he will be winning the Nobel Peace Prize. On top of that, conservatives make up a minority of the country and liberals/progressives/Democrats have been mobilized by their unwavering hatred for the man.
This is going to be a very hard upcoming general election for Trump regardless what he manages to do.
I mean, when people get into a voting booth to cast their ballot, how many are truly gonna care about him having sex with a porn star and giving hush money before he won? You might be giving people too much credit here. The only thing that will topple him imo is if there is definite proof of him being in cahoots with Russia during the election.
I sincerely doubt you'd be spewing the same nonsense if this ended with Clinton winning and her campaign was in this much trouble. You're no better than those brainwashed fools who thought Al Franken should have stayed around. Applying one set of rules for your team versus the other. Give me a break with your peace, just say you're a blatant hypocrite.
Who do you legitimately believe the democrats have that will give him a run for his money? Their potential candidates are pathetic to say the least. Bernie probably won't even be alive by 2024
Pretty sure you're a self-serving hypocrite in this case. It's nice to see some of you admit it and be open about it. Some of the poor souls on this forum genuinely believe that evidence of wrongdoing will somehow sway folks like yourself or the Sean Hannitys of the world to change their tune.
It doesn't matter anymore. It's no longer a game about a charismatic individual. That ended with the last election.
It is now squarely a partisan game. And it's likely the number of Democrats, Independents, and Moderate Republicans that will vote against Trump in the upcoming General will negate his second term.
I can only speak for myself but they should truly direct their efforts to more fruitful endeavors
K.
I mean you saw my response. You're fixating on humanity. Which I assume was hyperbolic, but close to reality of said iranians.
But that's none of my business...
I think like dems did in 2016 R's are underestimating a sleeping giant. There is evidence of this accross the country.. A collective mindset has been instilled in a generation of people. Trump must lose, and no deal in north Korea is going to change our minds. Trump is a cataclysm and a bane on humanity and his defeat has become the mission of many people.
Are you suggesting Hillary was more charismatic than Trump? Previous election had much to do with charisma. Hillary was one of the most uncharismatic people to ever exist
I'll leave you with this parting thought. The mentality which you're feeding will only get worse from here. The most unsavory and vile human beings will see the immunity granted by the rampant partisan warring that's going on and will seek to exploit it. See Roy Moore, Anthony Weiner, and Joe Arpaio. Martin Shrkeli even tried to rally a defense against his crimes by saying he being persecuted for being a Republican but it failed because he's too much of a scumbag. Sooner or later, someone truly evil and effective that you DON'T support will take advantage of these new standards and whatever short term gain you netted will have not been worth it.
Credit where credit is due. Good job.(this caused me physical pain)
He's still a huge peice of shit though.
He's still a huge peice of shit though.
They remember what is consistently hammered home to them by propaganda machines. They remembered Ben Ghazi and her emails for years and still won't shut up about them. They won't remember the constant weekly shit coming out about Trump because there is so much they just block it out. But remember that one great thing he did with NK? Sure absolutely. Why? Because they aren't going to stop talking about it because it's going to be one of their few positive talking points.
Some of you are really bad at reading and watching how this shit works with the general populace. One where a large portion believes Fox News. And the rest will go with whatever scraps CNN happily picks up from Trumps WH briefing room.
Hopefully I'll be dead by then. If not, I guess I'll reap what I sow
This is laughably transparent. Please hand this out as a sheet to your compatriots. Who the fuck would even bother arguing with you at this point.