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Yes seems to be the general opinion

Yeah at this point. I mean NSW will either be close to or just barely surpass 3ds aligned by years end.

Look at the next few years of 3ds....

Y5: 2.189.900
Y6: 1.874.457
Y7: 1.827.131
Y8: 566.420
Y9: 191.350

NSW year 5 will be no less than 4mil which is combine sales of Y5/Y6 of 3ds.
 

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RingFit performance is truly amazing. It reminds me the early age of the Touch Generation on DS. If supply is there, it can be one of the biggest December games. I'd say 3m is a lock at this pace (Wii Fit sold about 3.6m units).

I'm curious to see the new Monster Hunter entry on Switch. I think that game can have the potential to increase the target even further. Not like Animal Crossing, of course, but as a boost with respect to average Switch sales, at least in the short-run. It reaches a demography which perhaps is still largely on PS4 (also because the last time Monster Hunter fans jumped on a Nintendo platform was with Monster Hunter 4 on 2014).

If Monster Hunter is launched in early 2021, alongside Switch Pro, Metroid Prime and Zelda, we could see strong hardware sales.
 

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Yes seems to be the general opinion
Yeah at this point. I mean NSW will either be close to or just barely surpass 3ds aligned by years end.

Look at the next few years of 3ds....

Y5: 2.189.900
Y6: 1.874.457
Y7: 1.827.131
Y8: 566.420
Y9: 191.350

NSW year 5 will be no less than 4mil which is combine sales of Y5/Y6 of 3ds.
So, unless NSW loses steam in its 6 year, it will end up between 25 and 30 million and be the third best selling system ever in Japan.
Compare this to some of the reactions to the January 2017 press conference. Unbelievable.
 

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Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2019 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)
04./00. [PS4] NBA 2K20 # <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2019.09.06} (¥7.000) - 13.461 / NEW <60-80%>

Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2020 (Aug 31 - Sep 06)

07./00. [PS4] NBA 2K21 # <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2020.09.04} (¥7.000) - 8.541 / NEW
love to see that happen, even if it means absolutely nothing given the success in the west.
 

ikaben

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I'm really glad for the performance of RFA, after LABO Nintendo could have decrease their "creative" IPs. That would've been rather unfortunate.
 

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It's surprising, Sony usually do a really good job of squeezing sales out of superceded hardware
 

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it won't hit 9.5m. it's already dead, basically.

edit: on the hardware front. it's not going to grow a new userbase. the existing userbase will be there to buy the new kiseki games for the next couple of years.

The only way it doesn't hit 9.5m is if Sony completely kills the shipments.

Which (conspiracy time) might not be that outlandish. Sony wants customers to transition to PS5 ASAP but PS5 is going to be expensive and JP games will continue to be on PS4 for a while. Eliminate the cheaper option to try to force customers to go for the PS5. Problem is that probably won't work.
 

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10./12. [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 <SPT> (Konami) {2020.07.09} (¥6.980) - 7.318 / 215.075 (+0%)

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This is Konami just basically eating.

09./01. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Hajimari no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2020.08.27} (¥7.800) - 7.606 / 91.286 (-91%)

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As for Falcom there it is. (Assuming their reaction)

Old heads at Falcom must be getting a reality check sooner or later because PS5 ain't gonna bring them to new heights.

01./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 63.958 / 1.483.985 (+19%)

This right here is absolutely crazy because it's blowing away peoples expectations. Its a new ip as well.
 

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The only way it doesn't hit 9.5m is if Sony completely kills the shipments.

Which (conspiracy time) might not be that outlandish. Sony wants customers to transition to PS5 ASAP but PS5 is going to be expensive and JP games will continue to be on PS4 for a while. Eliminate the cheaper option to try to force customers to go for the PS5. Problem is that probably won't work.

ps4 supply isn't an issue in the us at least. if they wanted to stock japan, they'd be doing that now. we can see nintendo ramping up to meet demand and sony's left the ps4 to twist in the wind. maybe it gets one last hurrah for the hoildays if ps5 skips this year in japan.
 

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As for Falcom there it is. (Assuming their reaction)

Old heads at Falcom must be getting a reality check sooner or later because PS5 ain't gonna bring them to new heights.

falcom's gonna live off of ps4 + ps5 skus for tokyo xana2, ys v remake, and action no kiseki. and they'll have ps5 versions of ys viii, ys ix, hajimari, etc.
 

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ps4 supply isn't an issue in the us at least. if they wanted to stock japan, they'd be doing that now. we can see nintendo ramping up to meet demand and sony's left the ps4 to twist in the wind. maybe it gets one last hurrah for the hoildays if ps5 skips this year in japan.
I'm struggling to see an actual strategy to the complete abandonment of Japan on the PS4 hardware front. Unless western shipments are that low also, it's unbelievable they couldn't skim a few thousand more consoles off the top for Japan.
 

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I'm struggling to see an actual strategy to the complete abandonment of Japan on the PS4 hardware front. Unless western shipments are that low also, it's unbelievable they couldn't skim a few thousand more consoles off the top for Japan.

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madstarr12

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Switch is pretty steady.

Doesn't Sony typically try to extend legs of their consoles as much as possible? It seems pretty dead already.
 

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falcom's gonna live off of ps4 + ps5 skus for tokyo xana2, ys v remake, and action no kiseki. and they'll have ps5 versions of ys viii, ys ix, hajimari, etc.

I'm not gonna argue otherwise because that's definitely how they are gonna continue with their games.

And sales are gonna continue to decrease. It'd be one thing if their games sold a lot overseas, but that isn't the case unfortunately.They get most of their sales domestically correct me if I'm wrong tho.
 

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ps4 supply isn't an issue in the us at least. if they wanted to stock japan, they'd be doing that now. we can see nintendo ramping up to meet demand and sony's left the ps4 to twist in the wind. maybe it gets one last hurrah for the hoildays if ps5 skips this year in japan.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I would be giving more shipments to Japan where PS4 is likely to be more important for the next year or two relatively speaking.
 

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Why are some people in this thread expecting Hajimari to do better than Cold Steel IV? It was always going to be below.
The sales performance of Hajimari is the most obvious thing in the world. It's borderline concern trolling to think otherwise.
 

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I'm struggling to see an actual strategy to the complete abandonment of Japan on the PS4 hardware front. Unless western shipments are that low also, it's unbelievable they couldn't skim a few thousand more consoles off the top for Japan.

Sony's strategy is making marketing deals / moneyhatting the usual AAA Japanese IPs with a sprinkle of "A-AA devs will have to make a PS5 version of their games anyway, we are Playstation".
 

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Why are some people in this thread expecting Hajimari to do better than Cold Steel IV? It was always going to be below.
The sales performance of Hajimari is the most obvious thing in the world. It's borderline concern trolling to think otherwise.
Nobody is surprised. You could see the decline of the series from miles away.
 

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PokeSmash - 6682k vs ACNH - 5660k (to W25)

Gap Currently - 1046k


Updated Week 25

W1: 2603k - 1880k
W2: 827k - 728k
W3: 700k - 423k
W4: 456k - 293k
W5: 498k - 286k
W6: 351k - 284k
W7: 289k - 260k
W8: 234k - 195k
W9: 105k - 130k
W10: 84k - 102k
W11: 66k - 102k
W12: 50k - 98k
W13: 47k - 77k
W14: 48k - 74k
W15: 38k - 70k
W16: 45k - 53k
W17: 40k - 56k
W18: 33k - 72k
W19: 29k - 94k
W20: 26k - 57k
W21: 25k - 108k
W22: 33k - 106k
W23: 18k - 43k
W24: 17k - 34k
W25: 16k - 32k
W26: 17k
W27: 12k
W28: 14k
W29: 14k
W30: 16k
 

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Y4Q3 3DS vs NSW

W27: 27.5k / 52.2k [Gap 1698k]
W28: 57.0k / 96.9k [1658k]
W29: 41.5k / 113.2k [1587k]
W30: 42.5k / 125.2k [1505k]
W31: 41.2k / 86.6k [1460k]
W32: 41.9k / 173.3k [1329k]
W33: 50.2k / 148.7k [1230k]
W34: 33.2k / 70.1k [1193k]
W35: 34.7k / 78.7k [1149k]
W36: 27.9k / 77.6k [1100k]
W37: 44.9k /
W38: 47.4k /
W39: 32.8k /

Tot: 537k / 1021.6k
 

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The drop for Hajimari won't really matter if the next game(which starts the new arc) bounces back but that very much remains to be seen.
 

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Is Nintendo prepping a big W38/39??? It would be interesting to see compared to lite launch last year. SM3DAS comes out same week as lite launch for reference
 

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I'm not gonna argue otherwise because that's definitely how they are gonna continue with their games.

And sales are gonna continue to decrease. It'd be one thing if their games sold a lot overseas, but that isn't the case unfortunately.They get most of their sales domestically correct me if I'm wrong tho.

I don't remeber the financials, but Falcom have more than 70% of their income from Asia.

Since NISA are porting AND localizing I imagine Falcom get's very little from these.
 

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So, unless NSW loses steam in its 6 year, it will end up between 25 and 30 million and be the third best selling system ever in Japan.
Compare this to some of the reactions to the January 2017 press conference. Unbelievable.
I remember some other places on the internet arguing with a few users who thought it would be around Wii U's lifetime sales. I've always maintained it would hit 20-30M in Japan alone.

The best one yet though is they also argued Breath of the Wild wasn't a system seller and that it will land around 4M lifetime because that's around Skyward Sword numbers, which were indicative of Legend of Zelda's "true fanbase".
 

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I don't remeber the financials, but Falcom have more than 70% of their income from Asia.

Since NISA are porting AND localizing I imagine Falcom get's very little from these.
I thought it was 70% from Japan since they don't handle other asian markets themselves (Sony does the Chinese version afaik)

As for Switch releases in the West, Falcom's logo isn't even on the front box, it's hidden in small form somewhere in the back
 

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I thought it was 70% from Japan since they don't handle other asian markets themselves (Sony does the Chinese version afaik)

As for Switch releases in the West, Falcom's logo isn't even on the front box, it's hidden in small form somewhere in the back

I'm not sure of the business arrangement but Clouded Leopard Entertainment is listed as the publisher nowadays. They do have SIE listed as their sole major business partner but they have the Steam versions of the Cold Steel games in their coming soon section.

www.cloudedleopardent.com

Clouded Leopard Entertainment(CLE) Official Site

The official website of Clouded Leopard Entertainment Inc., which plans, develops, markets and operates digital entertainment and games.