"The fuck??? So it's just some guy who floated there in a balloon that was conveniently never mentioned before? LOL Lazy writing."
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"The fuck??? So it's just some guy who floated there in a balloon that was conveniently never mentioned before? LOL Lazy writing."
There is nothing to indicate this is the case. That's just a theory posed by spad3 with no supporting evidence. Episode 3 of the show explains the TVA dealt with Sylvie's bombs with little fanfare. Her plan was to distract them enough that she'd be able to infiltrate the complex and reach the timekeepers' chambers (which she did, but the plan went sideways at the end due to Loki).
Sylvie's bombings were just things she did to distract the TVA, sending all their agents on missions so that she could make it to the elevator and get to the timekeepers.
I'm having such a hard time getting my head around it all. How does the bombing of the nexus events make it so he couldn't see beyond what they would do at the end of time? Sorry for asking about all this my head is :poof: [edit] Oh wait, I think I get it. So if they had made a choice to kill or not kill Kang before bombing the nexus events he would have been able to see that.
Oh wait, I think I get it. So if they had made a choice to kill or not kill Kang before bombing the nexus events he would have been able to see that.
True, although I'm hesitant to believe the general moviegoer won't get confused by it all. I'm guessing Feige keeps him the same actor all the way through.
This has me super excited for phase 4. It's always gonna be shit is that person Kang?
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Not all universes have kangs tho. It all started in the 31st century, so the main MCU universe would not have a kang yet.I dunno. If Kang is going to show up, as an example, ten times in the next eleven years, do you really want or need Jonathan Majors in every appearance? That sounds exhausting. Letting other people play alternative versions of Nathaniel Richards, some that don't even call themselves Kang or whatever, would be far more effective and as...
...this post points out, maybe the fun of the next decade or so for the MCU is not knowing who is Kang and not knowing if every Kang is a bad guy or a good guy or a bad guy pretending to be a good guy or a bad guy allying with the good guys for his own benefit.
Kang has a real opportunity to distinguish himself from Thanos simply by, well, not being a giant purple dude on a single-minded quest to balance the universe in some arbitrary way.
There's even the very real discussion about whether or not it is moral to kill a Kang because, surely, universes are doomed to be destroyed by other Kangs if they don't have a Kang of their own to defend them. So you kill a Kang to prevent him from destroying your universe, but then what prevents his universe from being destroyed now he's gone?
This shit sounds like something you need a Council of Reeds to deal with because the only way you're gonna stop the multitude of Kangs from destroying all but their own universes within the multiverse is to establish an organisation to keep the Kangs in check. All of them.
At least Sylvie's decision was based on not trusting the villain of the show, and also the issue of whether or not arbitrarily kidnapping people is ok if it means preventing a potential future conflict. Starlord just straight up lost half of life in the universe because he couldn't hold it together for one minute.Time to add Sylvie next to Starlord in the "holy shit, you ruined everything for everyone" list.
Huh? You can literally say this about any franchise film property ever. "Voldemort? Who the hell is that?" "Thanos who is that?" "The Night King who is that?" And then what happens? You have entries that follow that answer that question.... you act like the MCU is ending today lolSure, because you know who Kang is and what he is capable of. I'm saying this because I was watching with 2 MCU only viewers, and they were left kind of underwhelmed by that. They didn't leave the episode going "WOW CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM FIGHT THE AVENGERS", for all they know he can only be part of season 2 of Loki.
He says it himself, doesn't he? He's tired of being the custodian of the timeline. Presumably that means he just stopped maintaining it past the point at which he meets Loki and Sylvie.So how come there's a threshold for Kang? How come all of a sudden he doesn't know what's going to happen?
Lol for real.Time to add Sylvie next to Starlord in the "holy shit, you ruined everything for everyone" list.
So how come there's a threshold for Kang? How come all of a sudden he doesn't know what's going to happen?
He says it himself, doesn't he? He's tired of being the custodian of the timeline. Presumably that means he just stopped maintaining it past the point at which he meets Loki and Sylvie.
I think that it wasn't a clever choice to use similar imagery for the depiction of different universes at the start of the episode and then when He Who Remains talks about them:
Lots of people understand that he destroyed all other universes and isolated his own, creating the sacred timeline, but the scene at the start of the episode implies that there is another universe, ours.
As much as I like this opening scene, I wish they wouldn't have shown the universe on the left. It adds confusion.
So how come there's a threshold for Kang? How come all of a sudden he doesn't know what's going to happen?
He says it himself, doesn't he? He's tired of being the custodian of the timeline. Presumably that means he just stopped maintaining it past the point at which he meets Loki and Sylvie.
that's one way to bring back alligator Loki too
Literally every character in the MCU was "that guy from the comics" at some point.Now as someone who doesn't care for "ITS THAT GUY FROM THE COMICS", that struck me as really mediocre.
Definitely. Had the Doctor Strange movie been called "Doctor Strange: Lost In Madness" we'd be a lot more shocked and surprised by events that were coming up, and I strongly suspect that the writers of Wandavision and Loki weren't operating on the idea that the fans would have already known about the title of the Doctor Strange sequel. I get that it's a powerful title, but they probably should have waited on revealing the whole thing.- Marvel spoiling this show with their movie titles really sucks. It really takes the air out of the finale when they have been hyping a multiverse for months now
Literally every character in the MCU was "that guy from the comics" at some point.
A Nexus event (as explained in the first episode) causes a branch in the timeline, which then causes other branches of its own.
Kang can see his own timeline, but cannot see into others (as explained by Kang himself). He could communicate with the other timelines, but he can't see how they'd unfold. After the Multiverse War, this specific Kang found a way to single out a timeline and delete all the others. He labeled his own timeline as the Sacred Timeline and created the TVA to prevent Nexus events from happening (as explained in episode 1).
So he doesn't know what's going to happen because all the branches that Sylvie created with her bomb in episode 2 all hit their Nexus event points (the TVA was incapable of containing them all). Once that moment hit, Kang has no idea what's going to happen as other timelines or other Kangs could have interfered at any moment. He knew Sylvie and Loki were going to make it to his Citadel, however he didn't know which one was going to take his spot as the decision wasn't written.
Just a little confusion: was Kang trying to destroy other timelines or just keeping his timeline (the scared timeline) from branching out enough to 'touch' other multiverse timelines and create the conflict he experienced?
I'm not entirely sold on the idea that their minds were wiped. We see a scene of our og Mobius talking to B-15 and reacting to the branching, and then we see Loki walking to the "new" Mobius while they were reacting differently to the branching.I think the answer for why Mobius doesn't remember Loki is really obvious. He doesn't remember the cup circles on Renslayer's table either because it's implied the TVA agents are subjected to regular brainwashing or memory wipes or something similar. It even focuses on those again at the end. The Kang in charge now did a memory wipe/alteration and this Mobius is our Mobius, and there is only one TVA and Conqueror Kang is now running the show.
Huh? You can literally say this about any franchise film property ever. "Voldemort? Who the hell is that?" "Thanos who is that?" "The Night King who is that?" And then what happens? You have entries that follow that answer that question.... you act like the MCU is ending today lol
It's not hard to understand. I was defending a poster that said "the reveal was underwhelming because I don't read the comics".
Every single poster I see excited for this character name calls the guy by Kang when he didn't even say that name in the show. It's obvious most of the excitement for what comes next comes from the knowledge of what this character is capable of doing in the comics. Hell, I have no clue and I'm pretty lukewarm on this character reveal, but I'm interested to know more (even if this 1st appearance didn't at all captivate me).
Just like I'm sure many people went "Uh?" at Thanos post-credit scene when it came out. But that was a big purple alien and was not the reveal to a season-long mistery.
Sure, because you know who Kang is and what he is capable of. I'm saying this because I was watching with 2 MCU only viewers, and they were left kind of underwhelmed by that. They didn't leave the episode going "WOW CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM FIGHT THE AVENGERS", for all they know he can only be part of season 2 of Loki.
I have never read a single comic with Kang in it and I thought it was cool. I don't think the "who" was the important part of the TVA mystery, the "why" was. And we got the "why" and the stakes and now we get to see the consequences play out in the next season.It's not hard to understand. I was defending a poster that said "the reveal was underwhelming because I don't read the comics".
Every single poster I see excited for this character name calls the guy by Kang when he didn't even say that name in the show. It's obvious most of the excitement for what comes next comes from the knowledge of what this character is capable of doing in the comics. Hell, I have no clue and I'm pretty lukewarm on this character reveal, but I'm interested to know more (even if this 1st appearance didn't at all captivate me).
Just like I'm sure many people went "Uh?" at Thanos post-credit scene when it came out. But that was a big purple alien and was not the reveal to a season-long mistery.
God yes. The second slow zoom I was already tapping my fingers impatiently on the table. It felt like they were under time and playing for extra minutes.I did find the camera kind of laconic, though. I think there were at least 2 or 3 slow, almost static zooms on Kang from behind Loki and Sylvie? I would have at least had the guy walk around a bit, maybe play the history of the Kang Wars on a bigger canvas than his little desk widget. (Think Ego explaining his backstory in GOTG2.)
I feel like Feige strategy of not announcing whether a MCU D+ tv series get 2nd season or not paid off.
he actually thinks he could be a doctor doom relative in the comics.
I think that it wasn't a clever choice to use similar imagery for the depiction of different universes at the start of the episode and then when He Who Remains talks about them:
Lots of people understand that he destroyed all other universes and isolated his own, creating the sacred timeline, but the scene at the start of the episode implies that there is another universe, ours.
As much as I like this opening scene, I wish they wouldn't have shown the universe on the left. It adds confusion.
Not all universes have kangs tho. It all started in the 31st century, so the main MCU universe would not have a kang yet.