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Joe Biden: "Unlike the African American community with notable exceptions the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community"
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This is such a weird thing to say anyway though, black Americans are just as ideologically diverse as any other group. Just because the majority of this group votes Democrat doesn't negate that at all. Hell, the Democratic Party itself is fairly ideologically diverse.
Also "more cultural diversity in their recent ancestry"? What does that mean exactly?
They weren't slaves
The cultural erasure+blending as a result of slavery really did forge American Blacks into a fairly unique culture vs. other immigrant diaspora. I mean, the whole existence of Kwanzaa is a result of America erasing peoples culture to the extent that pan-africanism is the best we could offer
STOP TALKING JOE!!!!
He's been doing great for months, under the radar, cruising along to election, but now I keep seeing quotes with BS like this in the last week, and debates coming up, and it all worries me. He just does the gaffe thing constantly in life. Also, I really hope how that quote sounds is not what his intent is. So now all African Americans are basically the same, everywhere? really?????????
He's been doing great for months, under the radar, cruising along to election, but now I keep seeing quotes with BS like this in the last week, and debates coming up, and it all worries me. He just does the gaffe thing constantly in life. Also, I really hope how that quote sounds is not what his intent is. So now all African Americans are basically the same, everywhere? really?????????
Joe Biden calls Donald Trump America's 'first' racist president
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee says Trump’s behaviour is ‘sickening’, prompting president to compare himself with Abraham Lincoln
www.theguardian.com
latinos were actually slaves, but I can imagine you wouldn't consider that if you dont count the black ones, which is why this is not a good answer. Not to mention, not every black person in america were descendants of the slave trade.
Which is why there is debate right now among black people about reparations, and which black people should or should not get them.
Diversity....
You're right
Latino identity in and of itself is complicated as shit
Joe Biden calls Donald Trump America's 'first' racist president
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee says Trump’s behaviour is ‘sickening’, prompting president to compare himself with Abraham Lincoln
I guess I shouldn't be surprised he said this.
Anyways someone needs to barricade Biden in his basement and cut his phone and internet until election day.
I mean, I hope you're right. I really do. But we all know there's a strong, strong chance this guy is gonna to say some dummy shit or completely lose his train of thought and give us a thousand yard stare on live TV during the debate.
All of us here will vote for him no matter what at this point, but what about those fringe middle ground voters?
I don't think it's weird to state points with strong evidence backing it up, which greatly influence the political landscape of the US.
I just mean if you trace back an equal amount of time for all black Americans and hispanic Americans, and make that a meaningfully recent amount of time (you're more likely to be influenced by the beliefs of your grandparents than great-great-great grandparents), and you then count the unique ethnocultural groupings (geography, religion, language etc) of those ancestors, then hispanic Americans will have more groups.
And then logically the descendants of more groupings will have more diversity in their ideologies.
Note: you really have to use the word diversity here in its pure sense, not as the politically charged version.
How do you make this determination when black people can also be hispanic or latino.
It's not just here.
Black media's been talking about this since he made the comments.
He will no doubt be asked to clarify his remarks next time he does interviews.
Yeah that's fair. The error was made by the person you were replying to then. The point stands.
I don't see how that is possible.
His words weren't strange. Just ignorant and casually racist. But I'd like to point out that many people in this thread are following his lead in at least one aspect. Biden was wrong to speak of African Americans as a monolith, regardless of his intent, but he was equally mistaken to speak of Latinos as a separate racial group when "Latino" isn't a race. One quarter of all Latinos in the US identify as black, the majority of humans of African descent outside of Africa are Latino, and Latin America has the largest population of black people in the Americas. Referring to "Latino" as a race that specifically excludes black people contributes to the erasure of afro-latinos and is insensitive.
I don't know how any one can say Black people aren't ideological diverse. Even among Democratic voters there's ideological diversity so I don't really get how people can assume that doesn't extend to Black folk. But y'all say anything to absolve this white man of his nonsense so have it
It's a terrible misconception a lot of us white folk have at times, either due to ignorance or apathy.
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Oh nooooo...a verbal gaffe! Let's all blow it out of proportion and pretend it's making us question whether he'd be a better President than the demon currently in office. Aaaaaaah! Or something...
There's been ideological diversity since Booker T. Washington and W. E. B. Du Bois. Smh.
Definitely help call some of these guys out in this thread doing this shit
His biggest assets are that Trump can't define him negatively, he seems to be Teflon, and he appeals to swing state voters. He's a much stronger candidate than he gets credit for here.
It's gonna be wild watching someone get banned from this forum for defending statements made by the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.
It wasn't a verbal gaffe. He didn't misspeak. He said the same thing twice in two different interviews. He believes it and for some reason thinks it's a good idea to say it out loud.
No one is going to give a fuck about anything but Covid. Both it's direct threat and economic threat.
Gaffes from either are going to be forgotten almost immediately... After we see a new death toll, or that schools that are open are forced to close because staff/students are sick with Covid.
Then, you have the second wave that is likely to coincide with the flu in October. He's probably already fucked beyond redemption, the rest of this is noise.
If you don't care you don't have to post. It's pretty easy to ignore the thread actually
Yeah, this is pretty fucked. Can't believe some people are actually trying to defend that all black people have the same political ideology so it's okay. Reminds me when people were arguing that black voters are uninformed. You can vote for Biden and still call out some of the horrible shit he spews sometimes. He needs to apologize, if nothing else, to not normalize shit like this more than it already is.
Ok, as a Black Man, it didn't for a nanosecond make me even consider not voting for him and voting out Orange Satan.
Because I'm an adult and a pragmatist. But go off, I guess...
Except this is all bullshit. There are black Latinos, there are tons of black people who have immigrated here from a wide variety of countries with vastly different cultures and ideologies, there are black people who immigrated here who DO have a slave history, but were slaves in entirely different countries and under entirely different European colonial projects and thus, while having a shared generational trauma of 'slavery', have different languages, cultures, and customs. There are people here who's ancestors never experienced slavery but experienced Apartheid, the Holocaust, and other forms of genocide
I mean just in terms of religious identity black Americans are incredibly ideologically diverse, encompassing all three Abrahamic religions (Islam, Christianity, Judaism) plus a wide variety of other cultural belief systems.
In light of that your response just seems really ignorant
We can demand better out of our candidates without walking all over already vulnerable minorities.
I don't know how they always jump to "so all the black people who voted for him in the primary were wrong, huh?" like it's some kind of gotcha.
I really don't think this argument has the weight that you think it does.
The fact that the Republican party is so hostile to African American needs to the point where they vote Democratic by default does not mean that the black electorate is not ideologically diverse. It simply means that the entire political spectrum of the black electorate basically exists within the boundaries of the Democratic party as a result.
The interference running and excuses are mind numbing at this point. It's not a 'gaffe', unless you consider letting the mask drop a 'gaffe'. Biden has always been racist. That shock and/or denial is on you.
Just because you're determined to vote for him doesn't mean he isn't a racist shit head. Just because he's 'not as bad as Trump' doesn't mean every racist thing that falls from his mouth has to be white splained away. People in here brow beating black people to fall in line with a smile just like Biden does.
Embarrassing.
Just because you're determined to vote for him doesn't mean he isn't a racist shit head. Just because he's 'not as bad as Trump' doesn't mean every racist thing that falls from his mouth has to be white splained away. People in here brow beating black people to fall in line with a smile just like Biden does.
Embarrassing.
I'm not even gonna waste my time getting angry at this shit. Biden is an old white-ass white dude, and I've already come to terms with his cordially racist shit. Time for him to run it back and "clarify" as always.
I agree. I'm seeing some "demand better", I'm seeing most acting like he kicked their mother in the titty. But Outrage Culture loves to be outraged.
Biden has always been a complete liar and a disgrace. I still can't believe this is the best the DNC could do. It should have been Bernie.
What does this have to do with voting for Biden instead of Trump though? People can dislike this statement and call it out as wrong and still vote for Biden...they aren't mutually exclusive.
Posters in this thread are telling on themselves. Last page or two has been full of this shit.
You'd probably let joe biden call you a nigger and you'd do back flips to defend him.
Again with this shit it wasn't the DNC that rejected Bernie it was the people voting. Can y'all stop with this.
He seriously needs to make up for this when he takes office though.