Jason Schreier: Sony is planning a new subscription service, code-named Spartacus, to take on Xbox Game Pass (Merges PS+ and PSNow. Not day one games)
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Sounds like a weak alternative to Game Pass, while undoubtedly allowing them to raise the price of Plus.
Not financially, of course. I'm talking about what MS have to offer, different from Sony. Sony has an equal, if not a more powerful hardware (performance-wise), with many platform-selling real exclusives (not available on other platform like PC at launch), and some interesting new features like DualSense.
Xbox Is pushing Game Pass in everything Xbox-related, like the cloud gaming. It is core for their strategy. They just can't let Sony take the lead with their huge userbase.
Probably not the majority, but I think it's a disservice to their service to think that it's just about Day 1 MS.
I went through the GamePass for PC list and jotted down all the games I'd be interested in playing:
Microsoft: Battletoads, Gears 5, Gears Tactics, Ori 1, Ori 2, Psychonauts 2, ReCore, Sunset Overdrive.
3rd Party/Indie: Fae Tactics, Astria Ascending, Battletech, Children of Morta, Code Vein, Cris Tales, Dead Cells, Dodgeball Academia, Donut Country, Echo Generation, Hypnospace Outlaw, Marvel's Avengers, Monster Train, Narita Boy, Scarlet Nexus, Slay the Spire, Jedi: Fallen Order, Streets of Rage 4, Tetris Effect Connected, The Ascent, Titanfall 2, Torchlight 3, Unsighted, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, YIIK.
At least for me, that 3rd party/indie list is more appealing than the Microsoft list. If Sony had a similar service that had the same 3rd party selection but replaced the Microsoft stuff with older 1st & 3rd party Playstation titles, I'd be tempted.
Totally in and pumped if PS Now gets rid of streaming but I don't see that happening.
I get everyone else wants day 1 and of course I'd take it but honestly wait for patches anyways so I'm playing games when they are at their best. If they move to PS Plus or whatever even a year down the road I'd be cool waiting.
If it's Now and Plus together as is I'm not nearly as excited. My internet isn't the best and last time I tried PS Now the streaming part sucked for me.
I get everyone else wants day 1 and of course I'd take it but honestly wait for patches anyways so I'm playing games when they are at their best. If they move to PS Plus or whatever even a year down the road I'd be cool waiting.
If it's Now and Plus together as is I'm not nearly as excited. My internet isn't the best and last time I tried PS Now the streaming part sucked for me.
It of course incentivises people to sub. But it wouldnt be nearly as attractive if they didn't have a decent third party offering. I'm really not trying to downplay the importance of 1st party titles but GP is a sum of its parts and a large part of why this service is so good is because of how much it offers you and that includes very recent third party games too.
Because one of the things a lot of people seem to not understand about PSNow is that the only differentiation from GP is the day one games, whether 1st party or otherwise. If they started including stuff like that, 1st party or not, it becomes a legit comparison.
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Naming a subscription service after a historically prominent slave is certainly a bold move.
Oooooh, ok, yeah I forgot about those. And then there's patent for emulated games with trophies. I'm starting to get hopeful and excited here, lol.
Woah, where did he say this?
No day 1 releases, and the ps1,2,3 and psp games would most likely be cloud streaming. No thanks.
It's the internal project name not the actual name they're going to give it when it launches.
Yeah, the PS2 games on PS NOW are just the PS2 Classics that are currently available on PS4. PS1 and PSP games aren't available in any capacity on PS4/5/NOW outside of remakes/remasters, so this sounds like something new to me, honestly.
Yes. So about 60 of them (vs 290 that were available on PS3).
read what's on the tin, and take it for what it says. "they need" comes off like hopium with dashes of warring.
if despite warring not being the central part of the statement, as well as qualifiers like "comes off", you still take that to mean "you're just a console warrior" that's your damage, not mine.
Me not wanting to reply to a person any longer is not dependent on the amount of times I did it before. I just don't think this conversation is getting anywhere and I'd rather employ my time elsewhere. I mean, this exchange is rooted in people thinking this service is not/won't be a gamepass competitor because "A subscription service without day one offerings is not a "Game Pass competitor" <- you can track the posts/replies.
Legit my last reply to you on this. Peace.
No day 1 shouldn't be a surprise when Sony first party games sell as well as they do. I hope they consider day 1 with smaller titles - indie games supported by PS like Kena for example.
important to mention that Xbox didn't start Gamepass by offering day 1 for all their titles either. This is just Sony dipping their toes in the water, definitely good news whatever way you look at it. Could still lead to something more.
important to mention that Xbox didn't start Gamepass by offering day 1 for all their titles either. This is just Sony dipping their toes in the water, definitely good news whatever way you look at it. Could still lead to something more.
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Don't care about day one titles anyway, I barely buy anything day one from the big publishers because you can get most of their offerings 6 months on for a fraction of the price. This wouldn't affect my gaming habits except to improve them I imagine.
I may have been mistaken about licensed ones. Not sure why I thought it was there.
I gotta think they want to offer more in that area to "compete" but at the same time clearly seem to think avoiding day one games is the net profitable move for the time being.
Unfortunately if PS5 is significantly ahead of Xbox in sales Sony won't see a need to alter course I doubt. Even if the gap closes a little once all the shortages close out if it's still significant why change? I mean I hope but just thinking of it from a company perspective. They are going to do what they think is most profitable overall and they don't need to "catch" anyone.
There's definitely room for a service that exists between the two. A curated catalogue of beloved classics and the occasional day 1 release for smaller and partnered titles.
Hey if they get Vib Ribbon with Spotify integration that'll be worth the sub alone
Actually with remote play splitscreen there's tonnes of potential.
Actually with remote play splitscreen there's tonnes of potential.
No day one launches, but it still sounds pretty good to me, especially if 100s of classic games will be available to play too.
I see a lot of people in this thread getting hyped over the idea of paying a subscription to have PS1 and PS2 games Sony used to just let us buy.
Vita, PS3, and PSP:
Don't you want to stream a 150mb video game for 30 hrs, thus eating up a couple hundred gigs?
Man, if they can port the entire PS1 Classics library from say, the PS3 store and make them downloadable/playable as part of the service? That's quite enticing.
If the BC offering is really robust, that will be the biggest draw for me to a service like this. Sony's back catalogue deserves love. But it's got to be a big step above what PS Now already offers.
People are writing this off because it has no day one releases but if Sony dips into both their own legacy first party titles and legendary third party classics from their third party partners from the PS1, PS2 and PSP era I don't give a rat's ass. Fuck half finished GaaS-ed up day one releases compared to having classic Psygnosis, Namco, Square and Konami releases available. I prefer games without battle passes, micro transactions and day one patches over today's tired drivel any day.
Don't know how to feel. I'm not planning on sub for a service with virtually the same games as the Game Pass minus all the first party offers.
BC games without any kind of boost would be very rough on a 4k screen for instance.
BC games without any kind of boost would be very rough on a 4k screen for instance.
I'm trying to puzzle how "a stronger ofering than PSnow" (Jasons' words) translates into "just ps now with a different name"
You implied it mate, sorry I don't know what you're thinking exactly but to me what you said came off as people saying Sony needs a Game Pass competitor are just console warring, which is just wrong and massively dismissive.
It's going nowhere because you're not willing to listen to what people say are just dimiss it as "warring" which is a bit annoying to be honest, I'm good for a good conversation about stuff though just throwing "warring" around because someone disagrees with you is just a bit childish.
Sony doesn't need a Game Pass competitor, but I think they should and I think they should have 1st party day 1 but I don't think that would ever happen so that's a bummer.
That's the worst part. It's gonna be like Nintendo Online where you technically do download the PS1 games, but you'll still pay a subscription to play them.
If they can locally emulate those games, just let people fucking buy them. Or better yet let the PS5 play my original PS1 disc. I know they can put the software in there to let the PS5's drive read CD-ROMs.