It's now been 4 years since Tropical Freeze, do we expect Retro Studios at e3?
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How is 5 years good? It's 5 years without even seeing the game which is the issue.
If it's another 2D DK, 5 years is abysmal
Just to dispell some wack-ass narratives that have popped up:
My takeaway from that is they're clearly working on a game and may also be working on something non-game related. This might explain the delay. 4 years dark is not THAT unusual in gaming.
- Retro has constantly expanded and Linkedin suggest it has 132 employees. Up from under 100 during Donkey Kong Country Returns. They are not that small of a developer.
- In 2012 Retro expanded to a larger office to accomodate the increase in talent.
- In February 2014, Retro CEO Michael Kelbaugh said they had started work on a new game and had been developing it for "a few months" since DKC:TF was completed.
- Recently a Linkedin resume was updated to include concepts like "non-linear narrative" and "world-building".
- In December of 2017, Nintendo tweeted out that Retro Studios was hiring Environment Artists.
- 11 months earlier, in January of 2017, they were also hiring for AI engineers and animatiors.
- No credible narrative exists from insiders or anyone else that their project(s) are troubled.
My takeaway from that is they're clearly working on a game and may also be working on something non-game related. This might explain the delay. 4 years dark is not THAT unusual in gaming.
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There is no narrative from anyone regarding anything about this project.
The point being that without any kind of indication that things are sour or projects are being scrapped, the idea that the gap is indicative of troubles is baseless.
We rarely hear anything about unannounced games from Nintendo.
What does not seeing the game have to do with anything? Retro games are not usually shown off until their close to releasing.
Eh, depends what gets announced.
If we get DKCR3 then I think it is likely they were working on something else that they've had trouble with and put on th back burner.
If it's something new and ambitious then yeah, 5 years is fine.
I feel like if there's a DKC3 in the Returns series, it will be done by Monster Games.
I doubt Retro's game is DKCR 3
I doubt Retro's game is DKCR 3
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I mean, if this game isn't announced at e3, then we're looking at a minimum of a 5.5 year dev cycle leaning into 6 years.
Which is historically long.
So we'll see if this is announced at e3.
It means we don't know what it is. And likely the later it's revealed the later it's released
Retro tends to be the studio that reboots franchises. First with Metroid, then with DK, so my bet is they're working on another reboot right now. That doesn't mean they're not simultaneously completing a DK3, so we could very well see that announced this year with a new reboot following next.
My point being, even though it's been so long since the last game, it doesn't mean they haven't been working on multiple projects.
My point being, even though it's been so long since the last game, it doesn't mean they haven't been working on multiple projects.
Frankly, I've expected them for the last couple of years, only to be disappointed. If they aren't there this year, it's very concerning.
Whitewatermoose was saying Retro was working on 2 projects. This would fit. One game and one non-game.
He kept saying "when I say projects I don't mean they have to be games"
It's longer than the norm, for sure, but we can't know why that is.
Without real chatter about projects being canned or the studio being troubled, I don't think it's smart to assume that. It's entirely plausible that they've been tasked with aiding in development of other projects in much the same way they aided Mario Kart 7 (and Monolithsoft aided Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild).
How large is the studio?
Is it possible they're making DK3 and a new IP which is one reveals of both have taken so long?
Is it possible they're making DK3 and a new IP which is one reveals of both have taken so long?
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Retro has done no support work since Mario Kart 7 with none of their employees having listed any support work for any Nintendo game on their resumes.
I have never seen a studio work on two games at once for 5 to 6 years instead of just focusing on making one game in three years.
I mean... They could I guess, but I don't see why they would and it's never been done.
I fully believe whatever they were working on after Tropical Freeze was either rebooted, cancelled (now on a new project) or something along those lines.
Some preliminary development would have started during Tropical Freeze so you're looking at a game at almost 5 years development now, which isn't likely.
Some preliminary development would have started during Tropical Freeze so you're looking at a game at almost 5 years development now, which isn't likely.
Well no if you ask me, YI is my number 1. But I think TF is up there as one of the absolute greats.
Nothing is a good bet with regards to Retro's latest game debuting but if it's not there, I will put earmuffs on my cat's back.
Those that have done that know the ramifications.
Those that have done that know the ramifications.
I don't think we're getting that, but it would be amazing if they did something DK related please it be 3D DK.
Seems like a waste of time if you ask me. I want them to make a brand new game.
How did you read my mind?
Calling it hard this year. For no reason whatsoever but goddammit I want to believe
Retro doesn't even make games anymore. They only release BBQ sauce now.
They could not show up. It's been a long time, but it can be even longer. God of War was in development for 5 years. BotW was in development for 5 years. This could be the same.
I doubt it. Next E3 I think because they will pish it back ti next fall/holiday. I would not be surprised if they are involved in Labo or another gimmick, as it seems to be the focus of Nintendo when it comes to Switch.
Sadly they see it as another Wii, otherwise they will put much more effort into hardcore gamers luke they did last year. That is why it was great: the less they care about the core, the worst Nintendo -and its financial results- are.
Sadly they see it as another Wii, otherwise they will put much more effort into hardcore gamers luke they did last year. That is why it was great: the less they care about the core, the worst Nintendo -and its financial results- are.
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You act as if LABO went into production six months ago when it was clear Switch was a success. Or that projects like Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3 don't exist.
I think it's time again for Retro to shine. I think we can rule out a 2D game and probably also Donkey Kong because it makes no sense to do a 3D platformer when Nintendo knows that they are lacking a real first person shooter/adventure game. And Retro has already proven them self that they can master that genre.
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