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If Democrats Win The House, What Do They ABSOLUTELY Need To Do With the Majority?
- Thread starter BWoog
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This.
All the shit that allowed things to get where we are now need to be fixed. No more gerrymandering, kill citizens united, establish term limits for scotus and others, secure our elections, kill voter suppression, etc.
A house majority can't prevent a veto.
A house majority can't impeach.
The house doesn't even have the ability to remove someone from office.
with just the house not much except obstruction-central with bills and budgets. though to be fair that can be leveraged for other concessions and damages control until hopefully they can take the senate in 2020.
So, my point is still unanswered: If there is no real pathway for Progressive policies from 2018-20, in your opinion how does the Dem caucus message their base and what expectations should be set for what can be reasonably accomplished in the next 2 years?
Investigating and screeching the Tr*mp administration to a halt is the bare minimum and is usually the first tool House majorities reach for. I expect to see some of the Trump kids swearing oaths in front of committees.
Stonewall any republican bills. Play their game. Unless we get the Senate as well, that's about all they can do.
Pack the courts.
Impeach kavanaugh
review every judicial appointment by this admin and if they are corrupt, impeach them.
No budget, shit gets shut down.
Impeach kavanaugh
review every judicial appointment by this admin and if they are corrupt, impeach them.
No budget, shit gets shut down.
Lmao yup. They may even bring Obama back out just to tsk tsk us in an enchanting manner.
activate and release the Doj and INT communities. these traitors will be in prison soon enough.
their replacements will think twice about being traitors
Impeachment is the first step, it likely won't go anywhere if the Democrats don't also get 60 senate seats (which is basically impossible given they can only pick up 9 and need to run the table in November to do so), but it'll let Trump know that this Congress isn't his to control anymore.
The second thing is simple. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Basically make Trump their bitch for the next two years, so he gets nothing done, and if he does, he's forced to use executive orders and look like a massive hypocrite. Then, it's just a matter of winning in 2020.
The second thing is simple. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Basically make Trump their bitch for the next two years, so he gets nothing done, and if he does, he's forced to use executive orders and look like a massive hypocrite. Then, it's just a matter of winning in 2020.
100% this
This has far greater long term impact, and could do more to help fix the bullshit of US politics
Trump is very likely not going to prison until after his term is up. It's nearly impossible to remove a sitting president, since impeachment is entirely political. In the meantime, as others have said when / if the Democrats manage to flip the house then they need to obstruct anything and everything, and launch as many investigations as possible. Make the next 2 years entirely toothless, if he's getting nothing done then his approval rating will tank and there's a better shot of winning 2020.
Pass a new Voting Rights Act and put every state under pre-clearance rules to address SCOTUS' problems with section 5.
This change alone would throw a wrench into gerrymandering and GOP voter roadblocks
This change alone would throw a wrench into gerrymandering and GOP voter roadblocks
Not happening. The Democrats would need a super majority in the house and Senate to override a presidential veto.
The only thing they can do is block the GOP legislation and investigate all the GOP fuckery.
Edit:
THIS.
Move left. Fight the right. Motivate people who don't fucking vote (((y o u n g p e o p l e))) and actually do something in 2020 if we get real power
If they only have control of the House the only thing they can really do is investigate. Any democrat legislation will get blocked in the Senate or most certainly won't get signed by Trump.
Investigate:
-Russia
-Puerto Rico
-Trump's taxes
-Voter suppression
-That Georgia election with the wiped severs
-Kennedy's retirement and his son
-Kushner's business deals and security clearance
Probably a lot more that I can't come up with off the top of my head.
Investigate:
-Russia
-Puerto Rico
-Trump's taxes
-Voter suppression
-That Georgia election with the wiped severs
-Kennedy's retirement and his son
-Kushner's business deals and security clearance
Probably a lot more that I can't come up with off the top of my head.
Yeah I'm worried the #bluewave is going to demotivate people in 2020 when nothing really happens. We NEED to get people motivated and keep them politically engaged.
The fact that Dems had everything in 08 and DIDN'T fix gerrymandering or the broken electoral college system is their single biggest mistake
Lmao.
My socialistically inclined American brothers, you need an actuall left wing party that values progressivism and social equality over feigned civility.
also major
campaign finance regulations
campaign laws
massive bills that target white collar crime and corruption
campaign finance regulations
campaign laws
massive bills that target white collar crime and corruption
It's a founded worry for sure, but we simply don't know anything about what's going to happen between now and 2020 (namely with Trump and the Russia investigation). If the Russia investigation finds that the corruption is a far-reaching as some have said into the GOP, I don't think any of us can predict what's going to happen. We're talking a foundational, existential crisis of the United States of America.
Gerrymandering is a state activity and was held in-check (somewhat) by the VRA section 5. That was blown up in 2013, after the Dems lost the trifecta.
The EC requires a constitutional amendment to address.
We need both passion and proper expectations
What you're suggesting would energize the far-right even more. Gaining control of the house and not immediately throwing punches in every direction isn't "playing nice". Democrats need to push a unified platform through representation and legislation; Congress isn't a reality show.
Yup. I'm really confident that we lose the house and senate again in 2020. In the last 30 something years, the democrats have not maintained a super majority in Congress for more than a few years.
I care more about winning state legislatures so we can pass independent redistricting commissions.
Democrats typically win about 50% of the vote in Ohio and yet they can't win more than 4 of the state's 16 US House seats because of gerrymandering. With 50% of the statewide vote Dems can't win more than 3 out North Carolina's 13 seats. This is some banana republic bullshit and needs to end now. States using court- or independently-drawn maps such as Arizona, Minnesota, and California are far more responsive and representative.
Democrats typically win about 50% of the vote in Ohio and yet they can't win more than 4 of the state's 16 US House seats because of gerrymandering. With 50% of the statewide vote Dems can't win more than 3 out North Carolina's 13 seats. This is some banana republic bullshit and needs to end now. States using court- or independently-drawn maps such as Arizona, Minnesota, and California are far more responsive and representative.
Impeach Trump and Kavanaugh.
I would prefer they also went after the republican leadership who could be sued or prosecuted but I can settle for them pulling backroom deals where they concede nothing to Republicans besides saving them from more personal embarrassment if it means Trump can be removed. Pence can be the lameduck president.
Shutdown the detention centers for immigrants immediately. What a fucking travesty.
Push a new bill that ends the tax cut for the wealthy in year.
Since they can't fill executive branch positions they should use their power to assign budget that defacto gives every department to hire "temps" who are qualified to fill in the nearly 1000 unfilled positions this knuckledragging administration has failed to support.
I suspect the economy will start nosediving around 2019 and they will have to prepare the country for that. While they are in the process of removing Trump they need to coordinate with all the governors to come up with a plan to mitigate the fall out from the economic shock.
I would prefer they also went after the republican leadership who could be sued or prosecuted but I can settle for them pulling backroom deals where they concede nothing to Republicans besides saving them from more personal embarrassment if it means Trump can be removed. Pence can be the lameduck president.
Shutdown the detention centers for immigrants immediately. What a fucking travesty.
Push a new bill that ends the tax cut for the wealthy in year.
Since they can't fill executive branch positions they should use their power to assign budget that defacto gives every department to hire "temps" who are qualified to fill in the nearly 1000 unfilled positions this knuckledragging administration has failed to support.
I suspect the economy will start nosediving around 2019 and they will have to prepare the country for that. While they are in the process of removing Trump they need to coordinate with all the governors to come up with a plan to mitigate the fall out from the economic shock.
Scorched earth. No more reaching across the aisle. No more goodwill gestures. Investigations. Push for Medicare for all, student debt forgiveness, consumer protection, net neutrality, infrastructure, campaign finance reform, etc. Most of this stuff will get vetoed, but it will keep voters excited until the next cycle and minimize turnover.
You need 2/3 of the Senate to follow through on an impeachment conviction. Trump isn't getting removed from office unless the Mueller report is so damming that about half of Republican senators want him gone.
Do to Trump what the Republicans were planning on doing to Hillary if she won: investigate, obstruct, attack and set up things for a Dem takeover in 2021.
Don't waste time on impeachment unless he literally does shoot someone on 5th avenue, and even in that case it's iffy if they could get 67 votes in the senate.
Don't waste time on impeachment unless he literally does shoot someone on 5th avenue, and even in that case it's iffy if they could get 67 votes in the senate.
Hence my comment about backroom deals. It's obvious this will need to be done but I would rather the dems leave Trump in there festering instead of giving Republicans any additional positive benefit through such deals. WHen it comes to this issue they should only use a stick and never a carrot. The Republicans has to own up to the fact they deserve nothing for fostering this blight to our way of life.
If the dems aren't removing Trump they should then go after the Republicans who can be sued or prosecuted.
