They went multiplayer GaaS instead of their core strengths. These are just fundamentally different markets. Why did they go for it? Greed.
Yeah but the direction they took Fallout 4 in was already a step in the wrong direction. That game had so little choice it was unreal compared to the previous games. And endless radiant quests need to fuck off.But Bethesda hasn't abandoned that market, they have two single-player titles announced for the future.
Yup.Fallout 4 is a very good game.
Just dropping this in in case unsuspecting victims get cought in the bubble that is resetera's opinions on Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
It was received extremely well by the general consumer base.While it certainly isn't ruined, Fallout 4 was a worse game than 3 for a lot of people. Though people will still flock to the next one in the hope its s return to their previous form.
And I agree, but I think they're still capable of producing quality role-playing experiences. Far Harbor was excellent, and the team that did Morrowind/Oblivion is still mostly there.Yeah but the direction they took Fallout 4 in was already a step in the wrong direction. That game had so little choice it was unreal compared to the previous games. And endless radiant quests need to fuck off.
I mean, have you looked at the teams? Check mobygames for the credits and see a lot of the narrative people have left. That was their strong suit and what they were known for. Burnout over making franchise sequels. Pressure from publishers to make games in trending genres and practices.
I think that it's healthy only when studios try something new out of the creative desire to try something new (and in that case it's great). But with Anthem and Fallout 76 it's completely obvious that the decision to make these games didn't come from the creative desire to try something new. It came from the publishers' greed; the publishers wanted to go for games with (supposedly) high monetization value. In my opinion, it's the opposite of "healthy".
Yup.
It was received extremely well by the general consumer base.
The Era bubble is very misleading.
I expect it will resemble TES 4/5 and Fallout 3/4 more than 76.
And I agree, but I think they're still capable of producing quality role-playing experiences. Far Harbor was excellent, and the team that did Morrowind/Oblivion is still mostly there.
While it certainly isn't ruined, Fallout 4 was a worse game than 3 for a lot of people. Though people will still flock to the next one in the hope its s return to their previous form.
Of course I didn't say everyone. Is it your favourite Fallout game?
it definitely was received worse than F3 and by many people, too.Yup.
It was received extremely well by the general consumer base.
The Era bubble is very misleading.
It wasnt a total disaster but if i was Bethesda i would really take the FO4 criticisms seriously for their upcoming projects.Yup.
It was received extremely well by the general consumer base.
The Era bubble is very misleading.
Fallout 4 is a very good game.
Just dropping this in in case unsuspecting victims get cought in the bubble that is resetera's opinions on Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
We're currently in a situation where these two studios are dying a slow death. The step away from RPG elements to shift to more action orientated games, lack of decent quality writing and story telling, lack of competence to deliver on the new genres they want to try, that thirst for greed, has all contributed to their current dismal failure.
Frankly they made too many wrong choices. Look at Bethesda, not just the game but the post launch stuff that happened. Their thinking is so warped, they can't help but fuck up at each and every turn.
They'll either course correct or burn their respective studios to the ground. It's up to them what future they want.
Fallout 4 is their best selling Fallout game, why would they do that?It wasnt a total disaster but if i was Bethesda i would really take the FO4 criticisms seriously for their upcoming projects.
Because as we've just seen with Fallout 76, if a games word of mouth at launch is bad it can impact sales. If there is a similar drop in reception for FO5 as there was for FO4 that is skirting near that threshold imo.Fallout 4 is their best selling Fallout game, why would they do that?
Rethinking strategy for angry gamers on the Internet?
Because the truth is that ME2 and FO3 were not great games.
Mass Effect 2 was a shooter with some light rpg elements. People just glossed over this because of all the alien sex, and because people generally like shooters. I suppose you could throw in not having 40 minute elevator rides as well. Otherwise all the broken rpg elements from ME1 were removed, probably because it was much easier to get rid of them then to actually fix them.
Coming from the perspective of an old gamer who loved the real fallout games, Fallout 3 was also a complete mess. I get that people, especially console gamers may have loved it, but that still has nothing to do with being "rpg masters". If anything it shows that Bethesda were already well past the point of producing something like their best.
Which might be excusable if other people had not made crpgs since then that are of a high quality. But of course we have several of those.
So how did they fall so low? The usual, standard, run of the mill way you fall so low. Not have much talent left but despite that chase massive sales numbers by moving to mass market gaming and/or get purchased by EA and chase massive sales numbers with no particular plan for how you will achieve that.
Fallout 4 is their best selling Fallout game, why would they do that?
Rethinking strategy for angry gamers on the Internet?