Gamstat counts players. Famitsu numbers are sales to customers. And probably Square will announce shipped units. All these are different.
Gamstat estimates: Final Fantasy VII Remake is the 3rd best performing PS4 exclusive title with over 2.3 million players in the first 3 days
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How is this not a jRPG?
Also don't assume, I've played pretty much every jRPG that has come out including DQ and Persona and they both don't hold a candle to this for me
It's a character action game with RPG elements. It's not a straight RPG though.
Not too shabby. I hope it ends up outselling Final Fantasy XV because while VIIR had some padding and texture issues, it's still an overall phenomenal video game and deserves great sales.
It's a Japanese approach to an RPG with Japanese sensibilities by a Japanese company
And maybe the person you're responding to didn't like Dragon Quest or Persona 🤷🏾♂️
That's just how this game was always gonna be. The Midgar intro is super dense. Even in the original it takes you all around Midgar, constantly pushing you to the next story bit through different routes in some different part of town. Now this remake has to do that in somewhat more believable, connected & seamless a manner. That simply translates to this kind of more linear experience. The somewhat claustrophobic feel fits the context in a lot of cases. The shantytowns of the slums, sewers, train tunnels & such wouldn't exactly be super spacious IRL either, so it fits that these places would be a bit on the narrow side. I think the scale of the environments makes locales oftem feel a bit bigger than they are, even if the routes through them are fairly linear. Like, I felt that segments like the aftermath of the Bombing mission gave a decent feeling of upper plate town streets, even if you didn't have dozens of city blocks to freely run through but got funneled through specific roads. And some locales have just enough branching paths & room to explore to make them less claustrophobic. It's only been a few points in the game where it felt too limiting (worst being after escaping the church and traversing through the rooftops of the abandoned district with Aeris).
Lol, how is this not a JRPG? JRPG is an (big) umbrella term for all RPGs made in Japan and spans from all the turn-based waifu simulators & pedo bait animu games to more action-y ones like Kingdom Hearts, FFVII Remake and Dark Souls.
"Waifu simulators and pedo bait". Well ok then. It doesn't even seem like you want to have a discussion at all.
I love FF7 Remake and the whole story, especially the ending, blew my mind.
FF7R is barely an RPG, though. I personally don't even categorize it as an RPG.
FF7R is barely an RPG, though. I personally don't even categorize it as an RPG.
Of course, but that doesn't really change the fact that physical licenses can still be tracked through telemetry. Hence why I said 'the amount of people playing the game on PSN' and not PS4.
I mean, when everything from Nintendo owned Pokemons & Fire Emblems to a bit more niche Trails/Kiseki & Persona games have issues with sexing up minors and/or making female characters into waifus (or sex objects), I don't think that's an inaccurate description of a big portion of JRPGs nowadays, sadly.
It's still very much a hybrid system, and I think a majority of the combat is spent doing character action attacking than anything else.
Have a hard time believing that. I've never seen so many people on my friendlist play the same game at the same time, not even Spiderman, GoW or MonHun.
Oh they can make open areas, ffxii is the best when it comes to level design for me. I just don't want a non linear open world FF. The game should be linear with open areas and towns, but yes, linear. And please note, the wall squeezes and walking aren't necessarily disguising load times, they can be deliberate for scene pacing and whatnot.
It's clearly a JRPG. Just like kingdom hearts is a JRPG and the Ys series also is.
See, I don't know. It's definitely an interesting discussion because the genre has taken on an amorphous shape of extreme breadth. If somebody came to me and said "I'm in the mood for a JRPG", I don't think I'd be suggesting FFVIIR. I think it's very much character-action forward with RPG elements, and not the inverse. That's just my take on it. You're free to disagree but I don't think it's "clearly" a JRPG.
lmao this one got me
It's a JRPG yeah, the fact it's not turn based doesn't change that.
A lot of them where on ps plus. And god of war and spiderman where sales monsters. And the market of used games is probably big.
You're comparing to 1.) a multiplatform game, 2.) we're in the middle of a pandemic, 3.) these are not final sales numbers.
Wait till you discover Star Ocean and Tales of series combat…
Yea it's always baffled me how jRPG got reduced to simply "turn based combat" when so many cRPGs were/are also turn based lol. Not to mention it disqualifies series like Tales Of and Star Ocean. Like character creation versus playing a predetermined character. Tightly controlled narrative, Youthful cast being the heroes versus western RPGs more grizzled, life lived cast help differentiate the two alongside the biggest one...jRPGs being made by Japanese developers in Japan bringing their Japanese perspective to the game that they worked on alongside their Japanese coworkers speaking Japanese to each other.
If being turn based is all it takes to be an jRPG then Baulder's Gate, Icewind Dale, Neverwinter Nights, etc are jRPGs bc hey... turn based lol
Sooooo Tales of and Star Ocean series aren't jRPGs?
Its definitely a JRPG, BUT! Honestly, JRPGs aren't really role playing games...
Multiplat vs exclusive console during pandemic. I imagine by May 2021, this game will have sold as much as FFXV if not more.
You're SO wrong in so many levels. It's a Japanese game, made in Japan, by Japanese developers with rpg elements. It doesn't have to be turn based to be a JRPG. Don't be so narrow minded. Nobody is going to agree with you here. It's a JRPG.
I think that RPGs and the definition of RPGs and also whether or not FFVIIR is character-action forward or not is a more nuanced discussion that you're giving it credit for. Before you come out with the "narrow minded" comments, let's recall your "the orchestral music in FFVIIR is a mistake" topic followed by your "the orchestral music in FFVIIR is wonderful" the following day. Who knows, maybe you'll wake up tomorrow and think "ok, I disagree, I think he's wrong, but maybe I could see where he's coming from". I'll bank on that for now.
Well deserved and expected.
One of the best games in this generation, SE did brilliant job with it.
One of the best games in this generation, SE did brilliant job with it.
If you define roley-playing by HAVING to have freedom about all aspects of character creation (looks, personality traits through actions you take, stats to the finer details) and some level of choice over how the story progresses, sure JRPGs are pretty light on the role-playing aspects, but there's some dungeon cralwer RPG geneology in JRPGs when it comes to the combat side of things.Its definitely a JRPG, BUT! Honestly, JRPGs aren't really role playing games...
FFVII Remake is more RPG than many JRPGs with the freedom/choice that the materia system, weapon differences & other equipment gives character builds, stuff that doesn't necessarily exist even in a lot of other FF games (that are mostly just "get to new town -> buy new, stronger equipment to replace the old ones and become stronger"). There are even story choices that affect how some (minor) stuff progresses!
But yeah, these aren't RPGs in the sense that Dungeon & Dragon (inspired) video games are RPGs where you get to define your characters in more varied ways outside of just combat, I'm not gonna argue with that.
This isn't an agree/disagree thing, you're just flat out wrong.
Nani the fuck. This is about as JRPG as the original was except it has a different battle system.
Good luck explaining why this isn't a JRPG while the original game is aside from the combat.
Wait, are we considering those jrpgs? I'm out of the loop on what qualifies as a jrpg apparently
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did you read the OP? I said it is performing twice as fast as FFXV for the same time period
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are you referring to physical sales in Japan? it practically sold the same physically as FFXV and expected to be doing high digitally due to the virus so its likely selling faster.
Era staying dumb about the genre discussion. Honestly never ask for JRPG recommendation on era cause then you get trash suggestions like nier automata or some shit by people that to not understand the point of having genre labels to begin with lmao. Worthless.
Lmao.
It has party members, stats, levels, customization, etc.
It's an RPG.
It was made in Japan.
It's a JRPG.
