Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Open Spoilers
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As someone who never played dirge their appearance actually intrigued me. I loved the horror esque vibe.
Wonder if other peeps who never played dirge feel similiar.
Wonder if other peeps who never played dirge feel similiar.
To be fair their introduction here is actually much better than it was in Dirge.
Weiss doesn't really exist in DoC as the majority of the game he is controlled by another character and Nero's horror themes takes a back seat to his crippling obsession with Weiss that is much, much worse in DoC.
If they could just drop or dial down Nero's obsession a few notches he wouldn't be that bad as it would just be a person who's power made them deranged.
Weiss…well they seriously need to drop him being controlled by the fucking Internet and maybe he could be interesting.
Yeah, I mean, it was kinda obvious when the "artist's rendition" of the city of ancients before their fall looked just like Midgar.
Yeah, if FF7R is gonna be a trilogy, Part 2 will no doubt end with the Northern Crater
I really think the Zack stuff is leading to the horrible realisation that he had to die in the outskirts of Midgar and we're going to find out the slow and painful way why.
I mentioned before about how Zack's disappearance and subsequent death was the reason the Turks basically disobeyed orders for years, keeping Aerith safe from Shinra and Hojo. Without Zack dying, the Turks may very well have not been as vigilant and this may very well have led to Aerith being captured weeks or months before she was meant to - long before she made friends with anyone who would know where she was taken and were willing to break into Shinra HQ to save her. By the time Zack figures it out, it'll probably be too late.
Zack will obviously oppose AVALANCHE, too. He has as much reason to hate them as anyone, but acts of terrorism are not something he'd ever agree with. If he chooses to fight AVALANCHE, he could very well end up killing some of them. There's a very real possibility that Zack's survival leads to the death of both Aerith and Barret long before either even leave Midgar.
So no AVALANCHE, no Holy and nobody to stop Sephiroth except Zack and a Cloud that's nowhere near as strong as he would become if Zack wasn't there. Sounds like a doomed timeline to me and the perfect segue into why Aerith must die by Sephiroth's hands - because if Cloud chooses her life over the lives of everyone else on the planet, she will never be able to weaponise the Lifestream and Sephiroth wins.
its not due to zack if we count before crisis, in that game they are still "shinra dogs"but also "protectors of the city" they try to minimize victims, in that game is revealed that the turks evacuated the people of the slums, they are the good guys of the game and avalanche is a bunch of crazy people, and the leader cares about the city, but then i'm not a fan of that game, but i think they will bring this thing of "bad guys with a good heart" to the remake.
The end of the Yuffie DLC includes a new scene with the main gang set immediately after the end of Remake.
Lol this is how I feel.
Plus Genesis has the best design and weapon of all the Soliders, so if nothing else he is sure to look amazing.
yeah I think that one particular scene looked a bit off, but other than that it looked really good like my avatar lol.
Considering how I thought Aerith CG looked off in the main game except the opening scene... it's pretty good improvement.
I managed to beat Hell House on Hard without taking a hit, but I've given up on the first two wolf enemies on normal in the first Yuffie chapter.
Im getting old.
Im getting old.
I seriously can't wait to explore Kalm based on what we see at the end. Is it also a good bet that we'll see the Gold Saucer in Pt.2? I could swear that I heard one of the main characters hum the theme song.
The plate kid from 1:10 is the same kid from 5:20 of the ending, so why would a child from the plate be in a church in the slums?
there's no way to know is the same kid, could be re-used asset since its just an extra, there's a bunch of these in the game
Seeing that Shirrako logo everywhere after what they got (briefly) banned from youtube for a couple years back...my stomach's in knots.
Anyway, hopefully we get something more on Part 2 before the end of the year. All this did was multiply the amount of questions, and that first trailer probably will too!
Anyway, hopefully we get something more on Part 2 before the end of the year. All this did was multiply the amount of questions, and that first trailer probably will too!
Max's theory is that the flowers at the church withered, and everyone is crying because in that timeline Aerith is dead
That's my first thought as well, I'm still on the "Zack is in a different timeline" boat and that in this timeline Aerith is dead for reasons unknown yet.
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Plot ghost is no longer there to save her as well.
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Plot ghost is no longer there to save her as well.
Imagine if Zack and Aerith being alive are mutually exclusive, and no timeline could ever have both at the same time. Such a sad fate.
Also... who's standing in the flowers? Is there any theory on that?
Also... who's standing in the flowers? Is there any theory on that?
They could be a survivor from the plate collapse. Some people from the WTC collapse were pulled out alive after having been in higher floors.
well if you move back to when Zack just opened the door and looked inside there's an NPC standing there. I don't think that's Cloud because the pants' not puffy enough lol.
lol, I'm missing the most obvious stuff xD
I don't know, I feel like some of the NPC's there look injured for it to be that they're there because of the plate drop.
So are people expecting Deepground to come back or not?
I know Nero dragging away Sonon implies the latter might be experimented on and used as a weapon against Yuffie but does that necessarily mean Nero and Weiss will come back in a major plot way?
I know Nero dragging away Sonon implies the latter might be experimented on and used as a weapon against Yuffie but does that necessarily mean Nero and Weiss will come back in a major plot way?
I don't know, I feel like some of the NPC's there look injured for it to be that they're there because of the plate drop.
Didn't we see the plate still up...?
You're all marks if you think that's the last we'll see of Sonon. If they didn't kill off Nero and Nero sucked Sonon into THE DARKNESS then he'll be back one way or another. Probably gonna get Norted except by a hot topic gimp with a diaper on his face.
I'm also in the camp that Aerith's dead in the Zack timeline but I have no clue where they're going with this.
I was personally really hoping that Yuffie would bumblefuck her way into accidentally killing Weiss and Nero, stopping the events of DoC from ever happening.
I'm also in the camp that Aerith's dead in the Zack timeline but I have no clue where they're going with this.
I was personally really hoping that Yuffie would bumblefuck her way into accidentally killing Weiss and Nero, stopping the events of DoC from ever happening.
Was that the sector 7 plate in the CG? I think it might have been to the left but im not to well versed in the layout of the plates, and if they're clockwise etc.
The sector 7 plate is on the other side of the cutscene pov, conveniently not shown lol
Hmm. In that case I feel like them not showing it is a pretty big indicator that he's in a diff timeline (showing it still up would give it away).
Yes, but not very soon. In my opinion, they are being included to flesh out vincent's story in the game.
Honestly, I said it was an alternate timeline in the first page but I've recently started thinking that Zack actually came to the same timeline as the main characters but now Max is theorizing my original thoughts and I don't know lol
I've been thinking that if Zack is in the same timeline as our main characters, he might consistently be a step behind them throughout their journey. And in the Northern Crater, Sephiroth can use Zack and the other Cloud to make our Cloud think he's a clone and break him. Just spit balling
I've been thinking that if Zack is in the same timeline as our main characters, he might consistently be a step behind them throughout their journey. And in the Northern Crater, Sephiroth can use Zack and the other Cloud to make our Cloud think he's a clone and break him. Just spit balling
it doesnt look like people are mourning aerith death to me, theres a kid holding his belly, each one looking at a different direction, everyone on the floor, a dude with a construction helmet, no pic of aerith, no elmyra, idk i disagree with max
I thought it was just a random NPC, the one here with red top.
He wouldn't have the Buster Sword if that were the case.
Zack seems to be in a third timeline, separated from the main timeline (the original games) and the alternate timeline (the Remake).
Why would people lie down on the floor to weep for Aerith?
They are clearly distressed about something not someone.
Max is usually on the mark, but this time he missed completely.
Well not necessarily. Assuming our cast was in the singularity when fate was destroyed, they could be immune to all the changes that happened hence them still carrying on the same despite changes like Zack living. So there could theoretically be two Clouds and two different buster swords belonging to two different people as convoluted as that all sounds
Zack died in late September. FF7 begins in early December. In between those events on October 5 Zirconiade was summoned above Sector 6 and its destruction destroyed part of Sector 6.
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My theory is this is a third timeline.
Zack and cloud survive but cloud is heavily injured so he never meets Aerith or avalanche. Aerith is kidnapped by shinra and is never rescued. (That's why Zack can't find her)
Plate is still dropped.
Dunno how it would tie into the main timeline though.
Zack and cloud survive but cloud is heavily injured so he never meets Aerith or avalanche. Aerith is kidnapped by shinra and is never rescued. (That's why Zack can't find her)
Plate is still dropped.
Dunno how it would tie into the main timeline though.
But how will Aerith die by Sephiroths hands when it seems like this one is not the original - he'd know killing Aerith basically means Meteor getting stopped.
Could be she kills herself when she realizes this herself..
if you are right that would be the worst news ever, i hate the zirconiade plot
The new ending brought me so much joy, (and I actually like that they are expanding on DoC characters personally). Honestly my only complaints with the dlc is the lack of party members makes fighting the hard simulations as Yuffie a lot less fun and its just kinda tedious, and i thought the final Fort Condor match on hard was also kinda silly.