Too bad that "most" people here thinks that your opinion as a consumer is worth less than the developers. Pay more, most of it will go to the developer anyway!This is probably my only gripe with the Epic store. I'll be holding out till they have regional pricing or the games I'm interested in are discounted
Too bad that "most" people here thinks that your opinion as a consumer is worth less than the developers. Pay more, most of it will go to the developer anyway!
Hopefully for them they'll get theirs money worth, however I won't be buying anything there in the near future and who knows if I'll still be interested in Satisfactory by that time, I do have Factorio already so...
The difference is that Valve didn't buy exclusivity. It just wasn't worth it to release it on other platforms, especially when they get so many benefits from tying them to Steam, like Workshop and Steamworks support, not to mention the ability to sell keys off-Steam I previously mentioned.
That's the best competition, locking indie titles on your platform fucking lol
I'm open for competition but not with locking content, i can understand games owned by Epic, but moneyhatting indie titles? Yikes.
Question, who the hell is Annapurna and "private division"? They announced many game yesterday, but I never heard of any of them
The store does not have a monopoly. Sites like Green Man Gaming, Humble Bundle etc have much better price than Steam and that is because, as been said countless of times, Valve gives out keys to games for free for them to sell on other stores if they want to. Taking the hit on unlimited downloads and all but potentially locking the game to Steam. There is a reason why Steam is first. They helped growing the PC gaming community where all others just left to consoles. Now, they all come back to get a piece of the cake and that's fine. I'v got absolutely no problems with EA games being exclusive to Origin, of course they don't wanna pay 30% on MTX on Steam, which is why they left Steam.None of those benefits makes it 'not worth it to release it on other platforms'. The reason why Steam gets so many exclusives is because of their sheer dominance - a near monopoly- of the PC gaming space. Sales on other platforms is a trickle compared to that.
If Origin store had 30% of the users Steam
Has, you'd see more devs releasing there, for example.
If you want to provide strong competition for Steam, stuff like exclusives will give you a boost.
If Epic starts churning out AAA single player PC exclusives on the level of TLOU I'll dump my entire Steam library and hang Tim Sweeny's picture above my bed, framed and everything.
Uhhhhhhhh... UUUUUUHHHH...
Uhhhhhhhh... UUUUUUHHHH...
EPIC VR announced for Epic Games Store with exclusives like Ace Combat 7 and Resident Evil 7.
Just a quick history recap. And at this point is clear you're ready to make any sort of shit up to be the apologist at all costs.At this point, you're running out of reasons to trash Epic games. And it's becoming clear you cannot be relied on for a dispassionate, level take on this subject.
let bygones be bygones as you have your cake and eat it tooThere's no I in Team. Good things come to those who wait, as it was meant to be.
Time heals all wounds. Such is life: forgive and forget.
Everything happens for a reason and it is what it is.
The store does not have a monopoly. Sites like Green Man Gaming, Humble Bundle etc have much better price than Steam and that is because, as been said countless of times, Valve gives out keys to games for free for them to sell on other stores if they want to. Taking the hit on unlimited downloads and all but potentially locking the game to Steam. There is a reason why Steam is first. They helped growing the PC gaming community where all others just left to consoles. Now, they all come back to get a piece of the cake and that's fine. I'v got absolutely no problems with EA games being exclusive to Origin, of course they don't wanna pay 30% on MTX on Steam, which is why they left Steam.
How ironic it is when people say Steam is a monopoly when Valve aren't the ones paying for exclusivity.
Just a quick history recap. And at this point is clear you're ready to make any sort of shit up to be the apologist at all costs.
And of course I'm passionate about my PC gaming experience.
Unlike you I actually play on PC, after all.
There is no need to be reductive, there are many valid concerns like how all these stores do not offer regional pricing. For other countries, particularly developing ones, games are affordable on Steam, because games are priced according to their average wage, yet stores like Epic do not offer it. So if you are in a developing country where the average wage is 1/4 of U.S average wage, you'd have to pay the direct conversion rate, which is ridiculous, a person in a country where the average wage is 1/4 of the U.S, $60 is a lot more money for them than an American.i cant believe people are actually throwing fits for having to install a new client to access some games. And are also stanning for a storefront, this is peak video game culture, grats guys, you manage to outdo yourselves every time
Question, who the hell is Annapurna and "private division"? They announced many game yesterday, but I never heard of any of them
Oh, I see, thanks.Private Division is the indie publishing label from Take Two.
Annapurna is a publisher that has been publishing many indie titles. Founded in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapurna_Interactive
Uhm...you really haven't read up on what they did with Ashen then. Less than a day ago, I was gonna play the game on my PC with my gamepass subscription...not until I went to the store just to see it not be Play Anywhere anymore...then an hour later see it's on Epic's Store. Not only would I have to download a launcher (which isn't a problem for me) but now I would have to pay $40 bucks instead of nothing. So you should actually read and understand why people are upset rather than have a quick hottake.i cant believe people are actually throwing fits for having to install a new client to access some games. And are also stanning for a storefront, this is peak video game culture, grats guys, you manage to outdo yourselves every time
Just kidding, of course they wouldn't do something like that. That means someone actively has to work on something that won't bring in money!
Of course not. The point is that they can either sell it e.g. DRM-free on Humble Bundle and with a Steam key on GMG and guess where most people would buy the game?It's more likely that game sales from Steam keys represent only a fraction of the total sales of games. Additionally, it still requires redemption in the Steam store, essentially serving as a means to funnel customers eyeballs to the store.
Valve doesn't really lose much from doing this.
As of yet though, no other store has Ashen up for sale afaik. Is that competition? That we have to adhere to Epics pricing?It's more likely that game sales from Steam keys represent only a fraction of the total sales of games. Additionally, it still requires redemption in the Steam store, essentially serving as a means to funnel customers eyeballs to the store.
Valve doesn't really lose much from doing this.
Users are going to Steam forums right now to get help with bugs for the exclusive games.So what's the word on what services Epic's offering me? You know, the important things that bring users to a platform besides bribes.
I'm not raging at Microsoft or anything, but the agreement they had must have either lapsed or not been too strong to begin with, that's all. I just find it strange to see something that I had thought they'd be quite serious about (advertising a game as "Play Anywhere") being brushed aside like that. I'd have thought that they'd want to fight to keep it that way.Exactly how is this MS' fault? If the publisher decides they don't want to honour previous agreements and wants to take money from Epic instead and make their games exclusive, there's not much Microsoft can do. It sucks, and it's put me off the publisher's output, but I don't see how this is anything MS can really control. Considering Ashen is still listed as Play Anywhere on Xbox.com, I wonder how much MS even knew about this considering the suddenness of it.
Paid exclusivity is completely antithetical to the open nature of PC gaming and its culture of providing consumers with choices and options. Epic is going about establishing its presence in the PC digital download space in the absolute worst possible way for the standards and expectations of consumers on this platform.
Antithetical? The game develppers really owe you nothing and has nothing to do with a personal computer and rules you may want to apply to anyone releasing content on it. The PC allows a free market and they are using that by choosing Epic. You as a PC gamer are not being locked out like we see on the console level where hardware now becomes the barrier. You simply need to install a new launcher and that to you is antithetical?
The curation on steam is still laughable and epic is providing better cuts for devs. I'll still use steam duh I have a shit ton of games but I'm getting tired of valve not releasing cool new games because of steam. And no, artifact is not cool.
And consumers owe developers nothing especially when they run way from Refunds, Regional Pricing and many of convenience features for users.
If this is such a big issue for you then don't buy the game or wait. Simple. See, the PC allows competitive storefronts so I don't understand this entitlement from you as a consumer that demands all games to be on Steam. We can provide millions of examples how the PC really isn't obliged to be open sourced. Do NVidia cards allow support for freesync monitors?
The game developers are not saying to you now you need to buy this add-on to get access to our digital store. If Epic Store is such a tradgedy don't use it but on the same token don't be surprised to see deals made to coerce gamers to break that umbilical cord they have with Steam. As a business you will do what you can to get peoples business, that's normal. Epic is launching it's new store and they will do what they can to get you there. The PC argument has no merit.
Epic didn't make an epic single player game and left it on a cliffhanger.You want to bring up developers not making games?
What has Epic made? Fortnite doesn't count.
Epic didn't make an epic single player game and left it on a cliffhanger.