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traillaitor

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Jun 10, 2018
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We don't clap. If you clap on an airplane when it lands, the pilot should take off again and push you out.
 

ManixMiner

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Dec 17, 2017
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Not once have I being to the movies and heard anyone clap now if it was a musical or play then yes of course.

I heard a few audible grasps when Cap/Thor entered and when Tony got injured but that was it.

I can remember years ago when I was younger, my friend got a copy of phantom menace and people clapped at the beginning/end and I can remember thinking it was weird.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,296
Nottingham, UK
But if you haven't seen the film then how is that different? The fact that it is edited doesn't take away from ones emotional response.

And as far as having an "actual investment", how does a sports fan have rights to claim such a thing over, say, a fan of anything else? I love my local sports teams, but I can appreciate someone elses equal or superior fervor when it comes to other subjects.

And you know what? Yeah, I would compare Infinity War to a playoff game (even though in my post I said watching sports in general, but w/e). But instead of it being a season leading up to it, it was 10 years.

My point would be that, yes you may not know exactly what is going to happen, but these are fictional characters in a setting where most fans will have an idea of the outcome. There will be attachment to characters and it will be emotional, but end of the day whether or not captain America survives or not for example, it doesn't actually negatively affect anyone's life/career/etc.

In live sport real people's lives are being affected and people are invested in actual real people.

I'll concede that some may be as emotionally affected by the film's, comics, etc as much as sport because they have heavily invested into the characters. But really we know the good guys will win, it is a fixed outcome, there aren't nearly as high stakes. Sport doesn't work like that obviously, anything can happen, and it's actual competition rather than a planned narrative
 

Terminus

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Oct 30, 2017
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This is the most "No Fun Allowed" thread I've ever seen, holy shit.

I'n the kind of person who doesn't even make a peep at live sporting events, but it's completely reasonable for people to express their enthusiasm for a massively hyped major release on opening night. In my experience, the thunderous roar of approval that met thrilling moments in The Force Awakens and Infinity War only heightened the excitement. It's part of seeing a movie in a social setting. If you require absolute silence to consume your popcorn flicks, wait a few days for the crowds to thin out, or just wait for the home video and keep your snooty condescension to yourself. What is the point of joining a crowd if the energy of that crowd is anathema to you?
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
15,684
Do you feel the same about people cheering or clapping while watching sports at home?
Here's the thing, you can't compare watching a movie in a cinema with watching sports at home or even in a bar. At home you're alone, if you're in a bar you're already in a public and noisy environment with people who will mostly be fans of the thing you watch. If you watch Infinity War at home or just with a bunch of hardcore Marvel fans, you can cheer and clap all you want. However, if you are in a packed cinema, it's incredibly rude to cheer and clap to your fellow moviegoers who might just want to enjoy a movie in peace.

If you're so dead-set on comparing going to a movie in a cinema with sports, you can only compare it to watching a live sport in a stadium or arena because both include the viewer paying money and going to a central location to see the thing they paid for with people the viewer probably doesn't know. However, in a stadium clapping an cheering is the norm because you're watching a live show and you're showing your support and excitement to the team and the players, in a cinema it's not.
 
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Terminus

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Oct 30, 2017
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Here's the thing, you can't compare watching a movie in a cinema with watching sports at home or even in a bar. At home you're alone, if you're in a bar you're already in a public and noisy environment with people who will mostly be fans of the thing you watch. If you watch Infinity War at home or just with a bunch of hardcore Marvel fans, you can cheer and clap all you want. However, if you are in a packed cinema, it's incredibly rude to cheer and clap to your fellow moviegoers who might just want to enjoy a movie in peace.

If you're so dead-set on comparing clapping and cheering in a cinema with sports, you can only compare it to watching a live sport in a stadium or arena, where of course clapping and cheering is he norm because you're watching a live show and you're showing your support and excitement to the team and the players.

I'm sorry, but if you're watching Infinity War on opening night, you're watching it with hardcore Marvel fans. There ain't no couples casually wandering in for date night to a showing that sold out months in advance.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Akalance

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Oct 27, 2017
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Philadelphia
My point would be that, yes you may not know exactly what is going to happen, but these are fictional characters in a setting where most fans will have an idea of the outcome. There will be attachment to characters and it will be emotional, but end of the day whether or not captain America survives or not for example, it doesn't actually negatively affect anyone's life/career/etc.

In live sport real people's lives are being affected and people are invested in actual real people.

I'll concede that some may be as emotionally affected by the film's, comics, etc as much as sport because they have heavily invested into the characters. But really we know the good guys will win, it is a fixed outcome, there aren't nearly as high stakes. Sport doesn't work like that obviously, anything can happen, and it's actual competition rather than a planned narrative
I disagree, but I genuinely appreciated the discourse.
 
Oct 28, 2017
13,691
When challenging the claim that it's a social norm and it's 'commonly understood' that an initial showing will be a boisterous affair it's more useful to draw on the myriad of examples where American posters have stated they've never seen it occur than it is to draw on the multiple posters who've claimed it's a common occurrence.



I'm uncertain; I think it's too multi-faceted a phenomenon to put down to a singular cause, but an inability to narrow down the specific root of a phenomenon (and I'm not even certain if it is particularly widespread in America as opposed to just certain geographic regions within America) doesn't render you unable to challenge reasons proposed or make what I would view as flawed reasons suddenly less flawed.

If I was to guess I would think that culture in America which in many ways promotes ones individual success and beliefs above those of others to be a prominent factor but probably not the only one. America is a country strongly rooted in capitalistic ideals where socialist values were demonised for decades and I think this contributes to a culture where ones own needs are commonly portrayed as being above the needs or feelings of strangers (particularly visible in how contentious an issue universal healthcare is in America where a substantial portion of people are unwilling to make comparatively small sacrifices [even if beneficial long-term] for the needs of the community as a whole). Competition is drilled prominently into American culture and this places a much higher focus on individuality and in being self-sufficient than collaborating with and supporting others to achieve a joint success. I think in such a individual-focused culture people could put more value in their own personal experience and their own desire to be heard than they put in the experience of others and that is a contributing factor to the cinema experience described in the OP.

But ultimately I don't know; the above is a guess at something that might be a factor. I'm not going to claim to know or bluntly state something as the reason when I don't. I will, however, challenge claims that the nature of media hype is somehow inherently different or that there aren't events internationally which are seen as communal experiences but still manage to maintain a calm theatre experience where it's entirely possible to have fans of a franchise behave in a quiet manner in a cinema.

Oh my fing god dude. Are you seriously attempting to link American individualism to people getting hyped at movies? You cannot be serious with this.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I think the reversed statement in a similar way would be insulting to Americans so I'm not sure it's a great position to take

I.E - Americans are loud and like the sound of their own voice too much

Or the other take on your statement - Europeans are respectful of their surroundings and fellow movie go-ers

Oh man. This thread is something else. Some of you have really outed yourselves as harboring really toxic views of Americans.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,296
Nottingham, UK
I'm sorry, but if you're watching Infinity War on opening night, you're watching it with hardcore Marvel fans. There ain't no couples casually wandering in for date night to a showing that sold out months in advance.
No mention of opening night in OP

I disagree, but I genuinely appreciated the discourse.
Absolutely, admittedly I may have bias given I am a football fan and have been for some time and do not extend that type of support to MCU/DCEU/Star Wars, but absolutely would do to the staff/actors involved in person
 
Oct 25, 2017
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People always clap at premieres in good theaters for the big nerd movies here (NYC). I think it's pretty cringey, but I do admit that the collective enthusiasm can bring a smile to my face sometimes.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm sorry, but if you're watching Infinity War on opening night, you're watching it with hardcore Marvel fans.
The amount of "hardcore Marvel fans" would likely be higher than usual, yeah, but you can't selfishly start to cheer and clap along assuming that everyone there will be okay with it. "Hardcore fans" might actually also be annoyed by it since cheering and applauding will drown out the dialogue and music for the people around you.
 

GAMEPROFF

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Oct 26, 2017
5,590
Germany
I would yell at people when they would ruin my movie with clapping while it goes on. Or if they would yell and comment at it.
 

Cheeky Devlin

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Oct 31, 2017
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UK here and 've been to several midnight showings of things (Avengers, Star Wars etc) over the years and there was always a great atmosphere before the movies. People dressed up and having fun and it was great. But without fail that audience would go near enough silent to actually watch the movie we were all there for. That's not to say that there wasn't laughter, quiet gasps and the occasional measured "Yay!" at moments (Thor arriving being one), but it was well understood that to start loudly clapping your hands together is not really a social norm in the middle of the movie, at least in the UK and I think for most people that works quite well.

If you can't enjoy the movie without braying like a Donkey and Slapping like a seal, perhaps have some consideration for others and don't go.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm sorry, but if you're watching Infinity War on opening night, you're watching it with hardcore Marvel fans. There ain't no couples casually wandering in for date night to a showing that sold out months in advance.
Also, in response to your edit: Where I'm from (The Netherlands) you definitely have people casually walking in a screening of big movies on opening night. In fact, I've done it. I've been to opening night screenings for The Force Awakens, Rogue One, The Last Jedi and a few Marvel movies and almost always I bought my ticket that morning, a day in advance or even on the night itself.

The only screenings that sell out a month (or sometimes months) in advance over here are special screenings at specialized cinemas, like the annual screenings of The Room at several arthouse cinemas, this year's screenings of The Big Lebowski in honour of its 20th birthday or the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition marathon I'm going to this weekend.
 

Terminus

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Oct 30, 2017
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No mention of opening night in OP

But it's what we're talking about regardless, whether we're all clear on that point or not. The behavior in question really doesn't occur outside of opening weekends. I would argue that an enthusiastic communal atmosphere is a net positive for any popcorn movie viewing, but even if I thought it sucked, there should still be space for people to express delight in experiencing a thing that they love. If you're still screaming at Thor's arrival at your third showing a week later, yeah, you're being pretty extra. But if you're expecting an audience of passionate fans to sit there on opening night like they're attending a funeral service, you're being pretty extra too.
 

GAMEPROFF

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Oct 26, 2017
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Germany
Also, in response to your edit: Where I'm from (The Netherlands) you definitely have people casually walking in a screening of big movies on opening night. In fact, I've done it. I've been to opening night screenings for The Force Awakens, Rogue One, The Last Jedi and a few Marvel movies and almost always I bought my ticket that morning, a day in advance or even on the night itself.

The only screenings that sell out a month (or sometimes months) in advance over here are special screenings at specialized cinemas, like the annual screenings of The Room at several arthouse cinemas, this year's screenings of The Big Lebowski in honour of its 20th birthday or the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition marathon I'm going to this weekend.
Yeah, we buy tickets always the same evening we want to watch them, unless its a big event movie. But from 24 attended screenings in a year, I buy in 20 cases the tickets on the same day.

But if you're expecting an audience of passionate fans to sit there on opening night like they're attending a funeral service, you're being pretty extra too.
Idk, works for everyone here were I live and nobody is here "extra" like you are saying it.
 

Stone Ocean

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Oct 25, 2017
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Luckily the 2 times I watched it were chill. TFA on the other hands was extremely obnoxious with people cheering the shit out of classic characters simply appearing on screen. We aren't the live audience of a sitcom, sit the fuck down and stop making noises when people want to watch the movie.
 

TheGreekFreak

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Dec 16, 2018
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I can't ever imagine clapping at a movie especially some superhero thing.

I would bust out laughing if it ever happened around me.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,296
Nottingham, UK
But it's what we're talking about regardless, whether we're all clear on that point or not. The behavior in question really doesn't occur outside of opening weekends. I would argue that an enthusiastic communal atmosphere is a net positive for any popcorn movie viewing, but even if I thought it sucked, there should still be space for people to express delight in experiencing a thing that they love. If you're still screaming at Thor's arrival at your third showing a week later, yeah, you're being pretty extra. But if you're expecting an audience of passionate fans to sit there on opening night like they're attending a funeral service, you're being pretty extra too.
Well yeah, midnight showings etc are different, like I said in an earlier post.

Perhaps the OP should be clarified
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Cheering when Cap shows up, gasps when Red Skull showed up, cheering with Thor turns up n at the end, cheering when the Wakandan drums started playing.

Can't remember if people clapped. It's not the sort of ending that you'd clap, really, that would completely ruin the sombre tone.

UK. Opening Day IMAX BFI. Never had people cheer in a performance before.
 

Landy828

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Oct 26, 2017
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I had a huge grin, and maybe nodded, when he showed up.

I don't think I've clapped, outside of at the end, during a movie. It's rare the Marvel movies do anything to really get anything more than a laugh out of me (a positive laugh, not negative).

I did cheer, along with everyone else....in a few scenes when Star Wars finally came back.
 

Hokahey

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Oct 28, 2017
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The only clapping I've ever heard in a movie theater was at the end of a kid's movie, and it was children clapping.

However - two movie theater experiences with lots of yelling and/or cheering and audience participation were Grindhouse (opening night at midnight) and Farenheit 9/11.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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Well yeah, midnight showings etc are different, like I said in an earlier post.

Perhaps the OP should be clarified


I dont mean any specific time I just meant "fans" of the genre.

I'm what we call a "4 for 4" guy, meaning I watch all 4 major American sports. When I'm at a game I can tell the difference between the fans of the sport and the dudes there to close a business deal or the couple on date night. These folks show up for a regular season game all the time abd of course that's fine but the playoffs is more catered to "real" fans. (Except EAGLES games where every game is hardcore).

I specifically mention Infinity War, Thor's Return and the "Fans" in the OP because if that's not the nerd equivalent to a game 7 I don't know what is.

The narrative is "live" for the both the sports fan and moviegoer alike and applause and cheers are NOT exclusive to any specific reaction if you suspend disbelief. Pro Wrestling, Monster Trucks, Disney on Ice and even the circus are all live events and scripted and folks tend to cheer (involuntary) when something fantastic happens.

However - two movie theater experiences with lots of yelling and/or cheering and audience participation were Grindhouse (opening night at midnight) and Farenheit 9/11.

Grindhouse was fantastic in theater!
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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I dont mean any specific time I just meant "fans" of the genre.

I'm what we call a "4 for 4" guy, meaning I watch all 4 major American sports. When I'm at a game I can tell the difference between the fans of the sport and the dudes there to close a business deal or the couple on date night. These folks show up for a regular season game all the time abd of course that's fine but the playoffs is more catered to "real" fans. (Except EAGLES games where every game is hardcore).

I specifically mention Infinity War, Thor's Return and the "Fans" in the OP because if that's not the nerd equivalent to a game 7 I don't know what is.

The narrative is "live" for the both the sports fan and moviegoer alike and applause and cheers are NOT exclusive to any specific reaction if you suspend disbelief. Pro Wrestling, Monster Trucks, Disney on Ice and even the circus are all live events and scripted and folks tend to cheer (involuntary) when something fantastic happens.



Grindhouse was fantastic in theater!
So I had rightly assumed you meant at any time, but with the caveat of being in the presence of "fans"

WWE may be scripted, but as we have found out in some specifically unfortunate instances, anything however terrible or funny can happen, like live sports.

"Anything" can happen in a film, but is about fictional characters and therefore doesn't actually have any real consequences, hence why the energy is different.

End of the day, by all means clap, cheer, etc and when I go see a film in a situation with a high amount of "fans" I know what I'm getting into. But if it is 3 or 4 "fans" in a cinema full of "normal" viewers then I'd expect respect given to the other customers. Hollering in the UK definitely won't go down well more often than not, but I certainly wouldn't complain about hollering if attending a screening that I know will be rowdy
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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So I had rightly assumed you meant at any time, but with the caveat of being in the presence of "fans"

WWE may be scripted, but as we have found out in some specifically unfortunate instances, anything however terrible or funny can happen, like live sports.

"Anything" can happen in a film, but is about fictional characters and therefore doesn't actually have any real consequences, hence why the energy is different.

End of the day, by all means clap, cheer, etc and when I go see a film in a situation with a high amount of "fans" I know what I'm getting into. But if it is 3 or 4 "fans" in a cinema full of "normal" viewers then I'd expect respect given to the other customers. Hollering in the UK definitely won't go down well more often than not, but I certainly wouldn't complain about hollering if attending a screening that I know will be rowdy


This has been such an interesting topic. I never knew this would evolve into such a discussion. Good Talk
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Obnoxious. and. Disrespectful

(I don't actually mean that, but at least have an ounce of awareness of the problem with the way you are framing this)

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LeFronge

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May 5, 2018
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The idea of bringing unnecessary attention to myself by clapping or wooping mid-film at a cinema - makes my skin crawl.

The only clapping ive ever heard at the cinema was during the credits of a showing of Argo at the Empire in London. Nobody was quite sure what was happening, somebody probably started and the rest of the cinema was just too polite to not join in. It was like a solid 15 seconds of golf clapping. Afterwards; we all stood up, muttered to each other how good the film was, and quietly left.