This is odd, where do those memories of an animated ending come from then... Now I need to find my DVD of the OVA, this is gonna be a challenge.
But he can't. They make it very clear that Devilman is weaker than Satan.
This is odd, where do those memories of an animated ending come from then... Now I need to find my DVD of the OVA, this is gonna be a challenge.
But he can't. They make it very clear that Devilman is weaker than Satan.
Ryo is definitely one of the most evil characters you'll find, which is of course fitting given his other title. Like I said before though, he was a bit too comically evil that it got to the point where I just had absolutely zero sympathies for the guy even at the very end. All throughout the show I kept asking in the back of my head "Akira, why are you hanging around such a utterly deranged psychopath?". I kept looking for traits or personality insights that maybe would allow me to like him even a little, but nope, couldn't find anything.
Yeah, that was what hit hardest for me and sold me on the Akira/Miki relationship, in a more deep way because
While up until then, Akira had of course thought the world of Miki (such as Ryo's infamous "Choose. Me or the Girl!", and we saw his choice), how her family had been more of a family to him than his own, and had sexually desired her greatly (why he went into that lust-rage after imagining her naked and aroused). But now he realized that she herself was where he drew his own inner strength from, and that of course ties into why he was able to retain his humanity and overpower Amon and become Devilman. She truly was his anchor to being human, and the core of his emotions, and that is of course why her death deprived him of it all, with the only thing left he could hold on to was revenge against Ryo.
I don't know if it was in the manga (seems like people said the final battle was barely shown in a few panels), but the anime definitely amped up the "anime" power-levels with Satan when he
starts pulling out attacks that crack the Earth's surface and also destroy the Moon. That of course made it clear above anything else that Satan was just so far beyond Devilman, and thus how utterly hopeless Akira's revenge would be. It's also funny in a way that Ryo's fatal attack is visualized so fast if you blink you do miss it. But I suppose that was intentional so the reveal at the very end of Akira's missing lower body would be impactful
I mean you think Akira would have left that club when he saw
Ryo slitting up people but nope he just stays there.
The manga barely did anything with the battle, because it really didn't matter. It just showed the opening shot, and the aftermath.
To me, showing that Satan was completely unscathed at the ending spoke volumes. Akira was a shriveled up torso, Satan didn't have a scratch.
Akira had a problem with Silene and got stomped by her merged form. He was never going to do a thing to Satan. I should honestly applaud the property for not going Shonen insane power up from nowhere route but still.
Maybe Akira should learn some Nen fuckery.
I think Jaded meant that
he should have held back instead of constantly firing moon busters like they were going out of fashion. Though his face at the end made it seem that he was in full bloodlust mode so he probably couldn't help himself.
Pretty much.
If he didn't want to kill the guy then he probably shouldn't have shot kamehameha's at his friend. Devilman wasn't that sturdy or even a good fighter. He only lived that long because he was the protagonist.
To be fair, Akira was high as shit. Probably thought he was just tripping or something.
Devilman was improving, but his circumstances were not ideal for figuring out his devil powers. In HxH terms, it was like
Gon having just learned about the existence of nen taking on powered up Meruem.
The idea that
it's all just going to happen all over again so God can keep torturing Ryo
In the first episode they showed the news and reporters were asking asking him questions about attending a mysterious party and his (boy)friend disappearing. While Koda was acting distant and uncaring Akira was crying because he felt that deep down Koda was sad.
They repeatedly establish that Akira is deeply empathetic, the polar opposite of Ryo who at best is a sociopath. They even explicitly point out that he cries for other people instead for himself.
Good point, he did get roofied. But even without that I think his reaction wouldn't have been much different, have to remember that pre-Amon Akira is well, a weakling and pushover, and Ryo was his only best friend I think (hard to remember how Akira thought of Miki before Amon). Watching someone who was your best bud go utterly batshit like that would probably put most people in shock, especially someone like Akira, on top of the drug as well as the ambiance of the Sabbath itself, it's no wonder all he could do was be in shock.
Ah ok, I'm kinda glad then that the anime showed more, even if it was just for show since it was clear what the outcome would be.
I'd forgotten about that part too. That makes things have more sense to them as well and explains Akira's determination towards Koda at the stadium event scene.
Of course it's also yet another knife in the heart when Koda instead turns out to be an asshole who wasn't worth crying over
Understood, I just didn't remember the airport scene. Cheers
They explain this better in the Manga, IMO. Even if it was bullshit reasoning, in the Manga Ryo pretty much told Akira what the purpose of the Sabbath was, they both went in there to be possessed by demons, and Ryo started slashing at and murdering people to invite the bloodlust needed to get demons to "invade" the bodies of the people present.
Becoming a Devilman, albeit forced, was Akira's decision in the manga.
Oppressive and dark, it's really great. The animation is not really much to write home about, but it's really good at striking the sweet spot for atmosphere. The head scriptwriter is Chiaki Konaka (Lain, Texhnolyze, Big O) and I think it's a shame that it gets overlooked compared to his other works. It follows a similar pattern to a lot of other 2-cour shows from that era. The first half is a monster of the week sort of affair that slowly develops the cast, and the second half is everything going to hell (also kinda like Devilman).
Just wanted to point out that it is apparently not the same story and is very different, for example, Jun isn't a teacher in the TV version but a model. Though I have not watched it yet so I could be wrong. I will watch it soon.
Yeah I was responding as if they were talking about the anime because of the word "watch". The manga is a very different (devil) beast.
Yeah, both are worth reading/watching through. I read half of the manga and it was very cool. The anime sound great from what I read about it.
Ah okay, must have missed that part somehow then. Makes the episode a lot better in that regard.
i have watched one and a half eps so far, it seems interesting, but this is like a straight up 90's dub.
This is probably my favorite track on the OST.
I love when it goes full synth. The non Jpop aesthetics are what makes it really standout as an OST.
It was like some Berserk shit.
Is berserk worse than that? I have been thinking about starting it for a while (the manga), but that was a bit too brutal for my tastes unfortunately...
Berserk actually gets some influence from Devilman so if you survived this you should be fine, though Berserk is longer than this and you get some messed up stuff happening in there. Like pretty much Berserk is probably a worse universe to live in than Devilman, but it's really open to discussion.
Edit:
You know...I probably wouldn't mind if Yuasa was asked to adapt Devilman Lady next. Modernize it and give it the same bombastic ass soundtrack and I'd be fine with it.
It's about both like how Bererk is about both Guts and Griffith.
Berserk was in part inspired by Devilman and Go Nagai and Miura, the author, is not one to shy away from anything.
I mean
Akira winning wouldn't have made sense either, but fuck. Not even the planet survived really. That like if End of Evangelion ended with Shinji choking out Asuka and then blowing his brains out.
Yep no one is alive even God decided to delete everything
Mankind was a mistake, it's nothing but trash. Granted i believe eps 8 and 9 did pretty much cement that humanity as a whole wasn't really evolved enough to coexist and was killing random people just out of ignorance and paranoia. The people Akira reduced to ash I didn't even feel bad for. Maybe the universe just resets itself constantly in this universe.
We also was shown the potential of human kindness when Devilman and Miki got through to some people as such
to bad it's too little to late
to bad it's too little to late
I mean yeah I realize that, but
They just couldn't over power human malice, it just wasn't going to work. Ryo being less sexy Griffith didn't help either. He like Lelouche plotted that shit or something.
I like the animation and appreciate how different it feels from most modern anime, but I don't think it's for me.
I can never find endings like this satisfying. I mean, I expect many people to die given how the show is, but killing off literally every person and the planet itself doesn't sit well with me. If humanity is truly that awful to deserve their fate, then the characters aren't worth caring about in the first place.
You know
it's gonna be hella fucked up if they get reincarnated only to constantly die in an endless cycle.
It gets worse.
If you ever read Violence Jack you will wish it was a cycle.
I never read violence jack. I know of it. I'm watching Devilman Lady and I'm getting the feeling that Jun's friend wants to smash her. How is the violence jack anime or OVA?