Manboat

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Nov 20, 2017
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Sounds like the version being remastered is the Chronicle Edition, which had Raidou instead of Dante, but otherwise much of the same content (and without getting into too much detail, he's meant to be the more useful character for endgame). Adding Dante back in too would likely take extra dev time then, which to me justifies the cost. It's not like they removed features and then resold them to us, the game is a complete experience without him.

Dante is a great choice, but honestly, Raidou is a better fit for the setting, and IMO a better character. I suspect much of the moaning is from people that don't know who he is and/or never played his games. You'll love him, trust me - a tube-wielding demon-summoning detective with a sarcastic talking cat? Basically ERA-bait.
 

Hagi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hmm that's cool but I'm still hyped for Raidou so maybe If I do another playthrough I'll get Dante down the line.
 

bunkitz

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Oct 28, 2017
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FUCK YEAH. Will gladly shell out 10 USD for Dante.

Who am I kidding, I've given Atlus so much money already, I probably would've paid more for Dante if I had to.
 

lucablight

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sounds like the version being remastered is the Chronicle Edition, which had Raidou instead of Dante, but otherwise much of the same content (and without getting into too much detail, he's meant to be the more useful character for endgame). Adding Dante back in too would likely take extra dev time then, which to me justifies the cost. It's not like they removed features and then resold them to us, the game is a complete experience without him.

Dante is a great choice, but honestly, Raidou is a better fit for the setting, and IMO a better character. I suspect much of the moaning is from people that don't know who he is and/or never played his games. You'll love him, trust me - a tube-wielding demon-summoning detective with a sarcastic talking cat? Basically ERA-bait.

That's a lot of mental gymnastics to justify what is basically a $10 palette swap. Where do you draw the line on when to charge for new content? Should Naughty Dog charge for the Last of us 2 patch they released today because the "extra dev" time justifies the cost? The game is still a complete experience without them.
 

Egida

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Oct 27, 2017
4,399
I don't understand it.

Is this some kind of license issue with Capcom? Or just a shameless cash grab?
 

Akiller

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's only 980 yen ($10) it seems.
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Oct 27, 2017
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Sucks but I get it, they probably had to license it again.

Not sure if I will get it or not. I like Dante's part a lot but at the same time I never played Raidou's version so I might play it instead.
 

Igniz12

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Oct 25, 2017
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Im guessing they had to re license the character, makes sense.

Does this game also have Raidou? I cant think of any reason to get Dante if Raidou is in the game unless you really like the design. Trying to get both of them to pull their weight in a max demon team is not gonna happen because of the way leveling works in this game. I even tried using a gameshark to bump up Dante's level to max back when and even then he was subpar.

From a gameplay prespective the dlc is not worth it but at the same time this is the best Dante design so...
 

archreaper93

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lmfaoooo omg...Atlus is fucking crazy. Doesn't Dante suck in this game?

In the original game, Dante was amazing against everything but the final boss of the TDE route, because that boss heavily resisted everything that didn't have pierce.

But it seems he gets pierce this time, so he should be good.
 

archreaper93

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Oct 27, 2017
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Imagine being unwilling to pay 70 bucks for what is objectively the best piece of media ever created by humans.
 

Łazy

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Nov 1, 2017
5,249
Why do you hate fun?
I don't see it.
I'm going to have a lot of fun with the game in 2 months and a half. And certainly more without Dante.

What I meant is that I'm happy the situation is not reversed. I'd be pissed to have Dante in, and Raidô as paid DLC.

So technically I'm having more fun that people who are gonna pay for a DLC.
 

Dragon1893

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Oct 25, 2017
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10$ is pretty steep. Will wait for a sale on the dlc and then do a second playthrough.
The version with Dante is the one I played originally anyway.
 

Naga

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Aug 29, 2019
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Lmao at the price of the DLC, especially given the price of the remaster.

I like him, but I'll just play with Raidou instead as I never played that version.
 

Łazy

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Nov 1, 2017
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This game is great and certainly doesn't need an unknown boring character in it.
Glad it's Raidô instead.

I'm sorry for people who will pay, but they're free to do so.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Never played the game but I intend to do on PS4 when it releases. Reading the thread, I have a question: is it either/or, or can you have both characters (Raidou and Dante) if you buy the DLC?
 

Helix

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Jun 8, 2019
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the Xbox version if it does happen will feature Spawn from Soulcalibur 2 lol
 

FooF

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This game is great and certainly doesn't need an unknown boring character in it.
Glad it's Raidô instead.

I'm sorry for people who will pay, but they're free to do so.

Ah yes Dante that obscure action game character know for being incredibly boring. Wild that you would call Dante unknown in a SMT thread of all places.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
22,368
Fucking lmao.
That is incredible. I'm sure they'll be working real hard post-launch to get that guy in.
 

sredgrin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man trying to dunk on someone making an obvious joke is pretty sad.
 

lucablight

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Oct 27, 2017
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They have to pay not only to license the character, but to voice all his lines. Yeah $5 would have been the sweet spot, but I'll gladly pay $10 for it.
So what? They have to pay for a lot of other shit in the game as well. Are they not paying employees who have to work on it to get it running on current gen systems? They get remunerated when people buy the game.
 

Deluxera

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Mar 13, 2020
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The issue with the OST is far more serious than this meme of Featuring Whoever from the Whatever series.
Shoji Meguro's work on Nocturne is an integral part of the greatness of that game. Squandering his music for no reason is outright disrespectful. It's on the same level as what happened with the Doom Eternal composer a few months ago.
 

Naga

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Aug 29, 2019
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Shoji Meguro's work on Nocturne is an integral part of the greatness of that game. Squandering his music for no reason is outright disrespectful.
To be fair, this is the same thing that people experienced on PS2 (or even emulated) and what most people remember. It's not like they made it worse.
 

Crayolan

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Oct 25, 2017
8,817
I'm not gonna pay $10 for what's essentially a character reskin, but I'm glad they found some way to bring him back.
 

7threst

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just found out this releases in the spring in the west while Japan gets the game in October already, mew... Was hoping playing this through the dark days of December. Ah well. Will definitely get the Dante DLC too, but will do a Raidou playthrough first
 

Buzzth

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Jan 15, 2018
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I have a feeling they may consider including this DLC in the western release given that it's being released later and SMT is not as prominent a name as Persona is.
 

residentgrigo

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Oct 30, 2019
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Costly Day One DLC on a remaster. For the most important feature on top. As Atlus as it gets. Let´s see how much all combined will cost as multiple games had pricier DLC packs that the retail price.
The Japanese version has voice acting but there is no way I will play this in English so goodbye Reuben.
 

residentgrigo

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This was a thing btw:
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Bayonetta also showed up and Dante is it Teppen. He still gets "featured" on a regular basis outside of fighting games.
 

HylianSeven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Worth pointing out that when the western version of Nocturne released (this was the Maniax version in Japan), Devil May Cry 2 had JUST released, and Dante was in partly as a cross promotion for that, in fact the box says "Dante from Devil May Cry 2". Devil May Cry was not near as much of a thing back then as it is today. Maniax Chronicle was the third version of the game (only released in Japan) that had Raidou instead of Dante.

Having to pay licensing again to have Dante in the remaster makes sense. I think $10 is not a bad price for that, and he is more than a skin swap since he will have voice acting, as well as his own dialogue that's different than Raidou's.